im just curious as to why you never (or rarley) see a build out of a ruger m77. is it less accuraty or more work or harder to fine parts for
Gunsmithing m77 action build
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Parts are the biggest problem. Mine is plenty accurate, but you'll have trouble finding a tactical style stock or 20 minute base. Some don't like the cast flat bottom receiver and they are a pain to pillar bed as well. I built mine because I already had the action, but would go a different route if starting over.
Parts are the biggest problem. Mine is plenty accurate, but you'll have trouble finding a tactical style stock or 20 minute base. Some don't like the cast flat bottom receiver and they are a pain to pillar bed as well. I built mine because I already had the action, but would go a different route if starting over.
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im not planning on doing a m77 build. i just noticed onone really uses them much and was curious why
im not planning on doing a m77 build. i just noticed onone really uses them much and was curious why
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The only thing I have ever heard bad about Ruger stuff is that the recoil lug is canted, which can cause some increased effort when bedding them. The tactical canted base is a real concern on these actions. Aftermarket support isn't as great for the Rugers, but I think you could order many different McMillan stocks for them, I am not sure if Manners inlets for them or not? There is no reason that you couldn't build an excellent rifle using a Ruger as a base, but for some reason they are continually bad mouthed without any real substantiating reasons as to why.
The only thing I have ever heard bad about Ruger stuff is that the recoil lug is canted, which can cause some increased effort when bedding them. The tactical canted base is a real concern on these actions. Aftermarket support isn't as great for the Rugers, but I think you could order many different McMillan stocks for them, I am not sure if Manners inlets for them or not? There is no reason that you couldn't build an excellent rifle using a Ruger as a base, but for some reason they are continually bad mouthed without any real substantiating reasons as to why.
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i bought a build did on a model 70 action. i love the gun but if i do one ill do a 700. not that the 700 is any better but i cant get aftermarket parts alot easier.
thanks for the info on the canted recoil lug. thats the info i was looking for
i bought a build did on a model 70 action. i love the gun but if i do one ill do a 700. not that the 700 is any better but i cant get aftermarket parts alot easier.
thanks for the info on the canted recoil lug. thats the info i was looking for
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The lug's not canted. The front action screw is. I had one for a little while. They seem to be touchy about the torque used on the action screws.
The lug's not canted. The front action screw is. I had one for a little while. They seem to be touchy about the torque used on the action screws.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kilosierra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The lug's not canted. The front action screw is. I had one for a little while. They seem to be touchy about the torque used on the action screws. </div></div>
That is true, the front of the lug is slanted, but the rear is vertical to the action. The action screw enters at an angle to the receiver, and my understanding is that this can cause some extra care or extra time during bedding. All the Rugers I have owned were pretty easily MOA capable rifles. I have one custom rifle built on an M77 with an HS precision stock, and it seems to be just fine for me. You don't find used parts for them often, but there is adequate aftermarket support for them. Other than the in-ability to accept a canted base they are in my opinion a well built action for building a precision rifle on.
Dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kilosierra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The lug's not canted. The front action screw is. I had one for a little while. They seem to be touchy about the torque used on the action screws. </div></div>
That is true, the front of the lug is slanted, but the rear is vertical to the action. The action screw enters at an angle to the receiver, and my understanding is that this can cause some extra care or extra time during bedding. All the Rugers I have owned were pretty easily MOA capable rifles. I have one custom rifle built on an M77 with an HS precision stock, and it seems to be just fine for me. You don't find used parts for them often, but there is adequate aftermarket support for them. Other than the in-ability to accept a canted base they are in my opinion a well built action for building a precision rifle on.
Dave
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As for the McMillan inlets, in the A-series I believe they only inlet the A5. I called and spoke to them about ordering an A1, and I believe that is the only stock they inlet for the Ruger, but I could be wrong.
I have a 77 MKII done by Terry Cross(according to him, it is "the last Ruger to leave my shop"). According to Terry, they have some funky angles to contend with when rebarreling.
Mine does .5" or better when the nut behind the trigger is tight.
As for the McMillan inlets, in the A-series I believe they only inlet the A5. I called and spoke to them about ordering an A1, and I believe that is the only stock they inlet for the Ruger, but I could be wrong.
I have a 77 MKII done by Terry Cross(according to him, it is "the last Ruger to leave my shop"). According to Terry, they have some funky angles to contend with when rebarreling.
Mine does .5" or better when the nut behind the trigger is tight.
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while a lot of "tactical" guys think they are garbage, a lot of people who do a lot of hunting swear by them. Go to some alaska hunting forums, or other hunting forums and ask about them.
while a lot of "tactical" guys think they are garbage, a lot of people who do a lot of hunting swear by them. Go to some alaska hunting forums, or other hunting forums and ask about them.
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You hit the nail on the head. They are a decent hunting rifle and can be used as a tire iron but that's about it. I have an older one from the eighties and it shoots around corners.
You hit the nail on the head. They are a decent hunting rifle and can be used as a tire iron but that's about it. I have an older one from the eighties and it shoots around corners.
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I own one in the stainless 7mm remington Mag and it shoots half inch all day long and thats with the horrid factory trigger.
I fixed the problem with the trigger by getting a timney from Midway. I like everything about the gun but how hard it is to find anything for it. From rings to stocks you pay more and get less product for your money. I would never start a build on one but happy to take it to the woods for big game.
I own one in the stainless 7mm remington Mag and it shoots half inch all day long and thats with the horrid factory trigger.
I fixed the problem with the trigger by getting a timney from Midway. I like everything about the gun but how hard it is to find anything for it. From rings to stocks you pay more and get less product for your money. I would never start a build on one but happy to take it to the woods for big game.
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Ken Farrell makes a 20 moa base that works great, but it will need the receiver drilled and tapped. The rail fits over the milled top of the receiver perfectly locating the rail.
Rob
Ken Farrell makes a 20 moa base that works great, but it will need the receiver drilled and tapped. The rail fits over the milled top of the receiver perfectly locating the rail.
Rob
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My ruger M77 can shoot 3/8" groups at 100 yards and 1.5" groups at 300 yards with the right nut behind the gun. And that is with factory Hornady match ammo. I did have it up for sale, but decided to keep it as a plinker and varmint control rifle. Only weighs 11.6 pounds with scope and bipod on it.
My ruger M77 can shoot 3/8" groups at 100 yards and 1.5" groups at 300 yards with the right nut behind the gun. And that is with factory Hornady match ammo. I did have it up for sale, but decided to keep it as a plinker and varmint control rifle. Only weighs 11.6 pounds with scope and bipod on it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jetmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, proof it can be done. </div></div>
But with the availability of replacement parts on short notice, I would rather go with the Remington 700 for shooting matches. But I like my Ruger just as much as other people likes their 700's. If they don't like my rifle because it is a Ruger, then fuck em. I am the one who owns it, shoots it, and keeps it up, not them.
For the longest time this was my only bolt gun. I know the flaws of this rifle. I know what it can and can't do, I know exactly where the first ten rounds out the bore will hit on paper with factory match ammo. I guess that is the plus of having one rifle and shooting it often.
Now I have a M40 build that I will start playing with sooner or later.
Wesley
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jetmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, proof it can be done. </div></div>
But with the availability of replacement parts on short notice, I would rather go with the Remington 700 for shooting matches. But I like my Ruger just as much as other people likes their 700's. If they don't like my rifle because it is a Ruger, then fuck em. I am the one who owns it, shoots it, and keeps it up, not them.
For the longest time this was my only bolt gun. I know the flaws of this rifle. I know what it can and can't do, I know exactly where the first ten rounds out the bore will hit on paper with factory match ammo. I guess that is the plus of having one rifle and shooting it often.
Now I have a M40 build that I will start playing with sooner or later.
Wesley
