Range Report Mac addicts and ballistic programs

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    As an fyi for guys running Macs and wanting to use one or more of the windows based programs, I can confirm using Boot Camp and installing Windows 7 works very well.

    I used 64GB of space, but you can go pretty low, although I wouldn't recommend much lower than 32GB for the Boot Camp drive. Installation was pretty simple and straight forward, then booting into the Windows screen is nothing more than holding down the "option" key at start up and choosing the Windows drive. Otherwise it boots normally into the Mac OS.

    One note, Windows continues to suck, and you have to turn off some annoy UAC thing, completely off in order for it to work properly. But otherwise it took only about 2 hours. The hardware drivers are all located on the Snow Leopard disk, (Boot Camp 3.0 is part of it, and recommended for WIndows 7)

    This is a good way to go for guys who want the full desktop option, beyond what is available for the iPhone or iTouch. As well, because you are not emulating its really fast, although I know you can use the emulators like Parallels or VMWare. But this way its a full blown Windows machine and you can add PDAs without the conduits or confusion. I haven't used the new versions of the emulators, I have Parallels but never installed it, but I know from my past experience I wasn't a fan of them. I used Virtual PC in the past and hated it.

    If you haven't tried it, its definitely easy and works with most hardware, check the boot camp page for more details. Plus I like it keeps it off my Mac OS, and doesn't take up much space.

    Gus at Patagonia was really helpful and got Loadbase up and running now problem, Precision Shooter Workbench is up and running too, but that are moving to the SD card for the PDAs, which I recommend that... I'll have the Nightforce version of Exbal installed shortly, but other than that stupid UAC thing, they have all worked nicely.
     
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    I admit, I had to google UAC, knew the term but not the acronym. For those that need to know what and how....

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-v...-windows-vista/

    Glad you crazy mac guys are able to use the cool kids tools now.

    I'm jasonk and I'm a PC.
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sleeper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know running a MAC is like running the badest ass rifle in the world..... With no ammo
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    You wish, other than the desktop versions of the ballistic programs, there is nothing I can't run, and better than anything on a PC... aside from cool games, but i have a Playstation so who cares.

    I can run stuff on my iPhone and programs like the Horus ATRAG and Field Firing Solutions have chips so no hardware is necessary.. the only reason I am even bothering to dual boot and running these programs in Windows is because of this site and my instruction duties. If I wasn't an instructor, or owned this site, I would be covered without Windows. And trust me there is nothing else but the ballistic programs I could think of wanting that is Windows only.

    When we switched many years ago, our production when up and cost of ownership down.
     
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    Definitly not trying to turn this into a mac vs pc thing. But as lowlight said, cost of ownership will go down is you switch to mac. I can a photography company for many years and due to certain software issue regarding our network we ran Pc's. Every six months major maintance and reinstalling OS's and a ton of time. Then we switched to MAC. I'm personally running a 7 year old power book that never been refomatted and still runs rings around many new PC's. If you haven't made the switch, due it or at least try it you won't look back. And its true the fastest windows computer right now is a MAC.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why bother, when you can run Parallels or VMware Fusion?
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    reading is fundamental... and a dying thing on this site apparently

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As well, because you are not emulating its really fast, although I know you can use the emulators like Parallels or VMWare. But this way its a full blown Windows machine and you can add PDAs without the conduits or confusion. I haven't used the new versions of the emulators, I have Parallels but never installed it, but I know from my past experience I wasn't a fan of them. I used Virtual PC in the past and hated it. </div></div>

    That is why, I didn't like it, and feel it utilizes the resources better while keeping Windows off my main partition.
     
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    I run a MAC and think it far outshines its PC counterparts. I just wish there was more native software written on the apple platform for shooting and reloading. I currently use Ballistic FTE or JBM for firing solutions. Not sure if anything works better because I haven't used any windows based programs.
     
    Re: Mac addicts and ballistic programs

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why bother, when you can run Parallels or VMware Fusion?
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    reading is fundamental... and a dying thing on this site apparently </div></div>
    Guilty as charged
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    I dunno, man. I've been running Macs since 1986 and own a Touch and another iPod, but I got tired a long time ago of paying a premium to Apple for the same hardware. I build my own machines for less than a grand (parts equivalent to an $1800 Dell or a $2400 Mac) and last time just bought a retail copy of OS X for $107, downloaded the bootloaders and fooled it into installing on a dual-boot machine. But I fire it up about once a month. Windows 7 fixed most of what bad in Vista and all I can say is that I make a lot of money off of Microsoft products and much more than I ever did doing graphic design on a Mac. Microsoft makes the best dev tools and the best database, hands down. And, yes, I've mucked around in Cocoa and Objective-C.