Rifle Scopes Magpul DVD, larue mount claim

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On the art of the precision rifle DVD, Hodnett claims to have got a larue mount, removed, reinstalled, fired a round, repeat 100 times, end group less than 1moa

This doesn't fit with my experience with the return to zero capabilities of QD mounts at all. Thoughts?
 
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He gets free stuff from Larue to say this stuff, including rides in Mark's private plane... He is there to "sell" you, if you notice after giving them the QD mounts the first thing in the next disc was Chris saying he needed to rezero as his LT QD was loose, and that is when they break into the scope swap monkey drill.
 
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Frank, when are you getting your Gulfstream IV? If I can't get you to pay to type-rate me on it, at least I want a ride in it!
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I just started watching "the art of the precision rifle" on Monday. I thought it seemed fishy to me as well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kenndapp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just started watching "the art of the precision rifle" on Monday. I thought it seemed fishy to me as well.</div></div>

There's a lot of questionable stuff in it frankly I'm not impressed
 
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What are y'alls thoughts on his wind call system? Which parts seemed fishy, just trying to get some good info and know what i should retain and what to discard from the video.
 
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What is the go with the resurgence in the Horus fad, it's not like it's a new reticle/system yet all of a sudden it seems to be the new 'must have' in thing. Is it just because it's the PSR choice so it has to be great?

Thoughts?

Cheers

JJ
 
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TH is a very good salesman, his job is to convince the military it is the latest and greatest. He finds the right people within the military and uses the influence of his to sell the Horus to them. Horus spends a lot money to push him deep into the right circles.

Remember he was hired as a salesman first and his instruction is based on selling the Horus, that is who ultimately pays the bills. He very effective at it. A few free OBRs or at least deeply discounted ones don't hurt either, I hear the friend of Todd rate is $1500 for an OBR if your not in a position to rate a free one. The only strings, tell everyone what a great guy, and how effective the Horus is. It really helps overlook the weaker parts of the program.

As far as the wind thing, it's okay, look up the Rule of Nines, or the British method and you'll notice some similiarities. Most of the time it's just stuff taken from the Horus software put in long hand form. The sliding scale is weak, and lack of flexibility with other calibers, but it will get you close as anything else. Though it didn't seem to help much in the video, neither did the reticle for those much discussed second shot follow up, like much of it, their counting was a bit off.
 
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they have a big following and are very popular. they throw in little things with the mount when you get it from larue, and it's developed quite a cult following. I sell them, i've packed them as a combo with the h1 and t1 to make it simple for my customers. they do alright, people who have gotten them from me like them, but there are better options coming, we'll see if performance > cult following.
 
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Full disclosure----I'm not a LT fanboy, nor do I hate them. I own two LaRue handstops and one scope mount. I ordered the gear with no opinion on LT or their products beforehand.

I've taken my LaRue LT-104 (I think that's the model number) on and off my SPR and swapped it around.

At one point, it did work lose and my zero went who knows where. I determined that I didn't have the right torque on the nuts. I then over-torqued it and it marred my receiver--which is unimportant to me, but noteworthy.

After getting the torque where it was supposed to be, I've been able to retain very minimal POI shift with it. So far taking it on and off about half a dozen times, it has shifted less than 1/2 MOA. Could be less even, as its about a 1/2 to 3/4 MOA rifle.

ETA: Also have a bipod mount and love that. I forgot they made that one.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank, when are you getting your Gulfstream IV? If I can't get you to pay to type-rate me on it, at least I want a ride in it!
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Frank

I think Graham is leading you down the wrong road.

You don't want to "slum it" in a GIV. I think you are more a Boeing Business Jet type of guy. Besides, I am already type rated.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I then over-torqued it and it marred my receiver--which is unimportant to me, but noteworthy. </div></div>

If you correctly torque it you will still eventually wear the anodizing off the bottom of the rail. That is one of the drawbacks of that design. I have an M4 that I have been running a LaRue CCO mount on for a few years. I pull the optic when I do a thorough cleaning since I can't remove the handguard with it in place. After many on-off cycles the anodizing is gone where the lever contacts the rail.

The plus side is the design is simple, easy to adjust and easy to clean. Since my old mount is on a CQB rifle with an Aimpoint, it's not the best for testing RTZ. The new mount will be attaching a high magnification precision optic to a bolt gun.
 
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What is the correct torque rating rating on the QD lever arms? I have yet to find one.

I have two LT-104 mounts. They are ok for me. One that was being used on an AR 15 with a NF optic was taken off and on for quite a while and held pretty-damn-close to zero. My father used the rifle and optic for a while and he called and said the optic was no longer zeroed. I'm not sure if it was him or the mount but something went wrong. I am watching my other one to see how it does.

I will also be comparing them to the GDI mount I have on order.
 
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I run a 7.62 OBR, Nightforce 3.5 X 15 with a LaRue QD mount.

This past Monday I went to check the zero on it at 100 yards. My first shot was sub MOA and at POA. It and the next two could be coverered with a dime.

I removed the scope, reattached it and fired three more. POA/POI had not shifted. I fired a total of 28 rounds and the rifle/scope was superbly accurate.

This is my experience. YMMV.

Joe
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T2CH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the correct torque rating rating on the QD lever arms? I have yet to find one. </div></div>

45-65 degrees is where they should first contact the rail according to Mark LaRue. He told me at SHOT for them to work correctly you need to actually feel it drag on the rail at 45-65*. The include card says 45 but I believe he said that Todd Hodnett prefers 65 and found it to work better.