Man Walks Into St. Patrick's With Gas Cans

[cornhusker86]

Coming out of the woodwork;

https://nypost.com/2019/04/17/man-arrested-after-walking-into-st-patricks-cathedral-with-gas-cans/

 

[Maser]

What a fucked up time we live in that houses of worship now require armed security guards.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Either this dude is a total idiot or he simply wanted to make a statement and had no intentions of actually burning the church.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
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Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
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Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

 

[QuickNDirty]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
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Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
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Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

Hopefully me or someone like me winds up on the jury for that one.

 

[AMGtuned]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
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Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
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Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

My CCP handbook says one is allowed to help citizens in distress who may be at a disadvantage...... I know what I would do

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The weak willed/minded on this rock have brought this shit upon their self's. They are now reaping the seeds they sowed, believing the "LAW" & "Kindness" would save them. The "Law Of The Jungle" is what they allowed to sprout an prosper, now it's time to watch the show evolve,... Mother nature will get the last laugh as will those, who who could care less any more,...

 

[Spblademaker]

Social media and main stream media make these assholes feel famous. The example set by the government and judicial system shows that no one is held accountable for their actions....Smollet, Clinton, etc....

 

[Blue Sky Country]

The weak willed/minded on this rock have brought this shit upon their self's. They are now reaping the seeds they sowed, believing the "LAW" & "Kindness" would save them. The "Law Of The Jungle" is what they allowed to sprout an prosper, now it's time to watch the show evolve,... Mother nature will get the last laugh as will those, who who could care less any more,...

The law of the jungle could not come soon enough. The two tier "justice system" that we have now is what enabled the "protected classes" of deviants and favored political extremists to make a mockery of this modern world.

The law of the jungle would change that. Now it will be the ones who wield the sharpest spears and the most poisonous blowdarts that will survive. No more coddling by a ruling elite that likes to play favorites.

 

[Maggot]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
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Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
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Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

Just dont be too close when you pull the trigger, muzzle flash and all. Best to escort him outside, and have a ND with a tracer right into the cans he's carrying.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Just dont be too close when you pull the trigger, muzzle flash and all. Best to escort him outside, and have a ND with a tracer right into the cans he's carrying.

Sharpen your knives!

 

[ArmyJerry]

the media is a stain. period

Social media and main stream media make these assholes feel famous. The example set by the government and judicial system shows that no one is held accountable for their actions....Smollet, Clinton, etc....

 

[clcustom1911]

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

I'd say on its face: good shoot. But the defense and civil trial would go "Officer, did you know where the people were in the building? We're the innocents truly in immediate danger? would they have been able to be alerted to the fire and make an escape?

In light of these questions, do you now feel you were correct in shooting?

Answer: I can't answer based on facts known now. I can only answer to my mindset and facts known at the time of the incident.

I've been deposed for a couple civil trials. Insanity. You *shall* answer every single question regardless if there is an objection.

 

[Rthur]

I'm sure this guy was just lost and he was part of the lawn maintenance crew.

R

 

[EDELWEISS]

I'd say on its face: good shoot.

YES of course its a good shoot, theres no "on its face". On its face implies you know more OR there may be more. There is NO MORE. You can only act on what you know.

Can you imagine being the cop that gets identified as finding the suspect in the act and NOT shooting him before he set the fire that killed all those children. I think we just saw that in Florida.

Maybe THIS needs its own thread; but the real difference between a Good shoot and a Bad shoot is articulation. Even otherwise bad shoots can be good if properly articulated. Its the old "What did you KNOW? WHEN did you know it? WHAT did you do about it?

 

[clcustom1911]

YES of course its a good shoot, theres no "on its face". On its face implies you know more OR there may be more. There is NO MORE. You can only act on what you know.

Can you imagine being the cop that gets identified as finding the suspect in the act and NOT shooting him before he set the fire that killed all those children. I think we just saw that in Florida.

Maybe THIS needs its own thread; but the real difference between a Good shoot and a Bad shoot is articulation. Even otherwise bad shoots can be good if properly articulated. Its the old "What did you KNOW? WHEN did you know it? WHAT did you do about it?

I used the phrase " on it's face" because it's clearly evident based on the circumstances provided any reasonable person would conclude there would be lives in jeopardy due to the would be arsonists/murderer's actions. yes: good shoot.

That's literally what the phrase "on it's face" means. But I understand there could be some confusion.

 

[powdahound76]

Here we go. Again, story was told long long ago.

How prepared each of us is for this is on us.

As for the shooting of a person about to commit murder by arson? I would just run and cry..... or something.....

 

[clcustom1911]

Here we go. Again, story was told long long ago.

How prepared each of us is for this is on us.

As for the shooting of a person about to commit murder by arson? I would just run and cry..... or something.....

We had a very brutal murder in my city the other day. The neighbor heard the screaming of the victim as they were being sliced and diced. The neighbor was too afraid to move.. Didn't even call the cops. Didn't even tell anyone anything until we knocked on their door canvassing for information.

Lemmings. They exist.

 

[EDELWEISS]

I used the phrase " on it's face" because it's clearly evident...
That's literally what the phrase "on it's face" means. But I understand there could be some confusion.

You are right but Ive found its best not to battle lawyers on their own terms. One of the best things I ever did was study The Law when I got assigned to the midnight shift.

Stay safe Brother.

 

[clcustom1911]

You are right but Ive found its best not to battle lawyers on their own terms. One of the best things I ever did was study The Law when I got assigned to the midnight shift.

Stay safe Brother.

I don't battle lawyers. I present facts and let them go full retard.

Stay safe as well, Brother.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I'd say on its face: good shoot. But the defense and civil trial would go "Officer, did you know where the people were in the building? We're the innocents truly in immediate danger? would they have been able to be alerted to the fire and make an escape?

In light of these questions, do you now feel you were correct in shooting?

Answer: I can't answer based on facts known now. I can only answer to my mindset and facts known at the time of the incident.

I've been deposed for a couple civil trials. Insanity. You *shall* answer every single question regardless if there is an objection.

The couple of times I had served jury duty, I had hoped that I would get 2nd Amendment and gun / SD shooting cases. I didn't get any, but I already made up my mind that if the person involved in such a case is in the right, ie., in defense of his life or loved ones / fellow citizens' lives against a threat, no matter what the 'portrayal' of circumstances are, I will tell the court that I agree to make a decision based on presented facts and not on emotions, but when it comes time to make the decision, I WILL side with the armed citizen.

 

[Maggot]

Can you imagine being the cop that gets identified as finding the suspect in the act and NOT shooting him before he set the fire that killed all those children. I think we just saw that in Florida.

Or waited outside the school for backup while children were being murdered.

 

[Fig]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
----------
Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
----------

Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

"Engaged in arson" is weapons free in most states just like he was pointing a gun at someone, but it isn't the same in all states, so you have to check.

 

[clcustom1911]

Or waited outside the school for backup while children were being murdered.

That still hurts me whenever I think about it. Cowardice.

 

[ArmyJerry]

No duty to protect.

 

[Maggot]

That still hurts me whenever I think about it. Cowardice.

Can you imagine having to live with it?


He might as well put the gun in his mouth.

 

[clcustom1911]

Can you imagine having to live with it?


He might as well put the gun in his mouth.

Exactly

 

[Snipe260]

Nothing to see here! He was just on his way to the family bar b que.

 

[Crang]

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.
----------
Lamparello is “known to police,” according to Miller. He has two prior arrests in New Jersey for criminal trespass and public drunkenness, sources added.
----------

Sounds like he is a super leftist SJW squirrel fodder just from the above snips. If he continues talking funny to the detectives, they may be able to secure a warrant to search his home and confiscate his phone / computers, etc. I am sure they will find a lot of interesting stuff there.

Question for our more legal-savvy members: If you happen to just walk right in on some assclown in the process of pouring gasoline all over a structure, particularly public structures like a school or a church, still occupied by people on the premises, and looks like he is about to light it off too........Would it be legal to shoot the motherfucker? Innocent lives are at stake here.

IN NYC? Guns a verboten. There is no good shoot. You will get to spend the next 10-20 or more years in prison. Hell the arsonist is from NJ which is a 'duty to retreat' state. Even worse.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The law of the jungle could not come soon enough.

The "LAW" is the issue, if the Law was to get out of the way, good men would correct the issue almost over night. Once good men have nothing to lose(an that time is coming) things will change rapidly, an perception will meet reality head on,...

 

[Blue Sky Country]

IN NYC? Guns a verboten. There is no good shoot. You will get to spend the next 10-20 or more years in prison. Hell the arsonist is from NJ which is a 'duty to retreat' state. Even worse.

Yep, NYC is pretty special, and not in a good way either. Even if someone held a Limited Carry permit, ie., business or armed guard, I can see a VERY lengthy and exhausting court review of the incident. And if by a miracle that he manages to beat the 100+ "unlawful use of a firearm" ordinances that the metro area has put in place, he may still end up getting his Limited Carry and premises-possession permits revoked. In NYC, they specifically let you know that gun ownership is a privilege that can be revoked faster than a driver's license.

 

[M8541Reaper]

no matter what the 'portrayal' of circumstances are, I will tell the court that I agree to make a decision based on presented facts and not on emotions, but when it comes time to make the decision, I WILL side with the armed citizen.

Which is why you should never be allowed to serve on a jury. You are not entering the situation as impartial and have decided to make a decision regardless of the facts presented. By publicly stating it on social media, you are also influencing others who might be on the fence of doing the same.

Everyone wants to talk about how fucked up our justice system is, but then you have this kind of ignorance.

Then again, that's human nature I guess. We have the society we deserve.

 

[EDELWEISS]

Which is why you should never be allowed to serve on a jury. You are not entering the situation as impartial and have decided to make a decision regardless of the facts presented. By publicly stating it on social media, you are also influencing others who might be on the fence of doing the same.

Everyone wants to talk about how fucked up our justice system is, but then you have this kind of ignorance.

Then again, that's human nature I guess. We have the society we deserve.

Dude have you ever been on a jury? Ever been part of picking a jury? I ask because “voir dire” literally means to speak the truth. Attorneys go out of their way to pick jurors because of their biases. THAT is part of the system. THAT is the way the system works

 

[Nik H]

Just dont be too close when you pull the trigger, muzzle flash and all. Best to escort him outside, and have a ND with a tracer right into the cans he's carrying.

Stabbing him would be much safer...and more satisfying

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I hope that all of us here realize that the "justice system" itself is as corrupted as anything can be, and officials play just as vicious a game of power politics as anyone else. We have all seen that thread we'd done just last week where a Texas judge actually took the side of a mentally disturbed mother who wants to have her 6 year old son transformed into a female, despite the boy's overt refusal to undergo the operation.

Over the years of being continuously active in the gun community, I have seen that the worst enemy that gun owners are facing are other gun owners. Because whenever any true challenges arrive, too many other gun owners want to out-shout and out-bleat everybody else in trying to show the state and it's enforcers that they are obedient, unquestioning, and do not cause trouble. In this very same process, so many of their fellow gun owners are thrown under the bus and left with hard choices between fraudulent plea deals, fines, prison time, and black marks on their personal resumes.

Therefore, I REFUSE to play along with this same system of complacency when a fellow armed citizen is facing legal scrutiny for something that he had no choice but to do in order to save another life. Too many gun owners have already faced bullshit charges of administrative code violations and other blatant infringements on the 2nd Amendment over cases which should have been open and shut with the defendant walking free and his firearms lawfully returned to him.

We have all seen that the state and it's enforcers and prosecutors stick together and only look out for their own interests. Therefore, we as a community of gun owners should be doing the same for our fellow citizens and look out for our own selves versus the interests of the state, which will always want to see us disarmed. As long as I have a voice and a seat in a legal case where a 'GOOD SHOOT' is involved, the person who fired that shot will ALWAYS have my backing and full support. Administrative code violations and other "but...but...technically" shit be damned.

 

[LeftyJason]

Which is why you should never be allowed to serve on a jury. You are not entering the situation as impartial and have decided to make a decision regardless of the facts presented. By publicly stating it on social media, you are also influencing others who might be on the fence of doing the same.

Everyone wants to talk about how fucked up our justice system is, but then you have this kind of ignorance.

Then again, that's human nature I guess. We have the society we deserve.

Ever heard of jury nullification?

Now that you know about it publically you might not be picked for a jury.
BTW jury nullification is legal.

 

[EDELWEISS]

…..the worst enemy that gun owners are facing are other gun owners. Because whenever any true challenges arrive, too many other gun owners want to out-shout and out-bleat everybody else in trying to show the state and it's enforcers that they are obedient, unquestioning, and do not cause trouble. …….

So true. They exist not only on gun ranges; but at gun shops, AND on gun forums. These are the guys that will take photos at ranges of other shooters who they insist are "breaking the law". They are the ones who hang on to every coma and period typed to police the forums in search of "rule breakers". They are the self appointed gestapo in search of enemies of the state.

You know them. You've seen them at gun shops. They are the ones that aren't satisfied with the way things are being done; so they insist on asking for permission and bring scrutiny on the whole industry. You've seen them ar ranges. Now the question is ARE YOU ONE?

 

[Fig]

"obedient, unquestioning, and do not cause trouble. ……."

Have ya ever visited Snipers Hide?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

"obedient, unquestioning, and do not cause trouble. ……."

Have ya ever visited Snipers Hide?

I've heard you could really get short with people there,... is just a tall story or what?

 

[Fig]

The short answer is yes.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The short answer is yes.

So it's not just a tall,... story?

 

[Blue Sky Country]

"obedient, unquestioning, and do not cause trouble. ……."

Have ya ever visited Snipers Hide?

Hmm. Is that the place where the most lively MOA vs. MIL discussions take place?

 

[Rthur]

Hmm. Is that the place where the most lively MOA vs. MIL discussions take place?

You forgot- "best" Scope, rings, bullets, barrels, ballistic app, brake, trigger, bipod, tripod, arca mount, pig saddle, front bag, rear bag,
Data card(on gun or on arm), powder, primers, target steel, range bag, match bag, reloading dies, reloading press,
shooting glasses...

R

 

[Nik H]

Full of window licking wannabes