MDVIP , anyone else join up ?

[Morgan711]

My Doctor ( old Nam Surgeon ) , is breaking off on his own , with other independant Doctors and starting MD-VIP . Basicly sidestepping all the Government controlled practices and ObamaCare bullshit. He is dropping his practice from almost 2000 patients to no more than 600 . It costs $1600 a year to stay on with him and join up. Costly I guess but no more paying for office visits , direct contact phone numbers for all participating Docs in my area , No more Receptionists !You Talk directly to docs and meds will be called in directly to pharmacy nearest me unless it is an absolute office visit need. I no longer have to miss work or travel to get immediate care unless an emergency . There will still be one on one visits with him for lab work and follow ups . Sounds like it will be a win-win situation for both of us . Anyone else join up with their Doc yet ?

 

[Zeronine]

Yea, similar situation here. I think you'll find most private practice doctors are going that route. You won't get anything more than a nurse practitioner visit otherwise now a days. I recommend signing up for it.

 

[07yzryder]

so is this just a 1500 fee to basically get a less crowded practice? You still have your insurance who the dr bills for procedures ETc correct? The fee is just to compensate for not having the 2000 patients?

 

[BALLISTIC]

I will have to look into this, Thanks!

 

[KYpatriot]

Obamacare made this inevitable. It will lead to a Single payer, government controlled system like the UK has. When I lived there I noticed that in that system, anyone with a decent job gets private care along the lines of what the OP mentioned, so you end up paying twice, once in taxes for the national system and again for the doctor you will actually use.

In the end, if you have the money your quality of care may actually go up since you will be a private client of a more exclusive system with fewer patients competing for your doctor's time. If you don't have the money and you are stuck with the government system your care is about to get much worse.

 

[thejeep]

Obamacare made this inevitable. It will lead to a Single payer, government controlled system like the UK has. When I lived there I noticed that in that system, anyone with a decent job gets private care along the lines of what the OP mentioned, so you end up paying twice, once in taxes for the national system and again for the doctor you will actually use.

In the end, if you have the money your quality of care may actually go up since you will be a private client of a more exclusive system with fewer patients competing for your doctor's time. If you don't have the money and you are stuck with the government system your care is about to get much worse.

ky,

Do you feel it is different here where you pay your insurance co and the gov through taxes? How i look at it is this. There are people with insurance (who are tax payers), people with some money but no insurance, and poor folks.

Poor folks medical is paid for by the gov and is also picked up by insurance co's paying for more $$ for a treatment than it really cost.

People with no insurance but some money only pay for a fraction of what their bill would be if they were insured.

People with insurance pay taxes, their insurance premiums, and copays. So tax payers are already footing the bill.

Why not eliminate the insurance co and create a single payer system who's operating costs would be less?



Lastly i feel the only amount of time created for the md will be spent on coffee breaks and golf. or whatever. Why on earth would they work more time doing a job which previously required less. ie 60min to now see 2 pts (30min/pt) where they used to see 6pts (10min/pt). I would bet they would see their 2 pts and have 40min to jerk off in the md lounge.

 

[mkollman74]

Why not eliminate the insurance co and create a single payer system who's operating costs would be less?

Who would this single payer be? If Uncle Sugar... Well, when have you seen them do anything for less?

 

[KYpatriot]

Who would this single payer be? If Uncle Sugar... Well, when have you seen them do anything for less?

This is why.

Jeep it is way different. Mountains of regulations. Pay caps. Mountains of paperwork to prove compliance with the mountains of regulations which causes massive cost overruns which are fixed by massive tax increases.

The British healthcare single payer system is an unmitigated disaster. Why do you think anyone which can always chooses to pay out of their own pocket for anything else?

Remember the last time you went to the DMV for a simple car registration and it was hours of your life you won't get back for a 5 minute process? Imagine those kind of bureaucrats in charge of your cancer treatment.

Besides, we already have government single payer here. It's called the VA. How's that been working out? Then imagine the VA times a million, only with less funding and less congressional support and then picture THAT.

Government healthcare is just like communism. It might sound decent in theory, but it's a total fail in execution.

I don't think you understand the level of taxes required when not just the irresponsible uninsured, but everyone, is on the government healthcare dole. Look at Medicare, Medicaid overruns...the cost predictions were not even ball park.

If it goes single payer, which I think is the real goal of obamacare by creating an unworkable middle ground, it will be the end of US healthcare as we know it. People will be flying to India out of their own pocket to get a gallbladder removed or a knee replacement just like they do in England now.

That's not even the worst part as long as you have money to go do that. The worst part is that as soon as single payer arrives, the government decides that since they are now graciously providing you a service (they never think of it as delivering something you gave already paid for) that they now have the right to make all kinds of decisions for you. After all, they say, your lifestyle choices now affect the cost of healthcare for everyone so we are going to tax your "unhealthy" or risky choices.

 

[thejeep]

I know it sucks. Just seems like single payer should cost less, and I hate insurance co's.

 

[Morgan711]

Doc said my Insurance is the same for those who enroll with him . Only difference is the direct ability to reach him at any time need be and no need for office visit just to get a damn prescription for something simple , which costs him valuable time, employees increased workload , and puts me out having to go to his office . He's fed up with big brother telling him how to run his practice ..example , they told him if he does not go to electronic filing of patients history only ( which they will have access to ! ) and do away with paper records by years end they are going to start with holding payments to him from Medicare and other Gov. Controlled payers. His point is we live on the coast what if we get a massive hurricane in here and power goes out ? He has to treat many injured ? Without power and computers how can he look up your history and treat you correctly ? If he has to destroy all his paper trail of you there is nothing to fall back on .......it's a lot more complicated than this I'm sure and he didn't go into all the reasons for severing ties but you can probably just guess all the BS he's having to go thru as things are right now . The $1600 to join covers me anywhere in the MD-VIP system ....if I have per say an eye injury ? I don't want whoever is on call at the emergency ward to make serious decisions , MD- VIP will send a specialist to care for me , not just anybody who happens to be there at the time .