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pmclaine

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    If I am shooting a modern sporting rifle its like shooting pistol - take it to the range, fire a few rounds, it goes home and gets dumped in the safe.

    Shooting vintage is a bit more involved and I like to take a day. Today was one of those days.

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    I was testing a few loads the best performing was 57 grns of RL19 under a 168 Nosler CC. COAL = 3.3

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    Since January all I have shot is a Giessele trigger. It was a big difference going to the 1.3 SN M1903A1 trigger but that is no excuse this gun/ammo combo outclasses me. I really respect what the guys using these as service rifles were capable of in their day.
     
    I agree, I went out this afternoon to shoot a few rounds out of my 'A4,....a few round ended up depleting my 06 loads. I just can't quit with I get started with vintage rifles.

    I was going to same some for my 03a3 and M1917 but that didn't pan out.
     
    that is quite the pretty rifle you've got there, what kind of finish did you put on the stock?

    Thank you. I use Real Milk Paint pure tung oil, hand rubbed like I want to set the stock on fire. It can get too shiny for a mil rifle but its a nice repairable finish, somewhat more weather resistant than Linseed oil. It smells good to.

    The rifle I shot that day is the top of these three

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    all are coated with Real Milk PTO
     
    nice, I'll have to give that stuff a look. Scraped the finish on my 03-A3 a few weeks back up in the bush, so even though it's my go-anywhere gun, I'd still like to keep it looking decent. how does that stuff hold up to trekking, and can you just throw it over the GI finish?
     
    nice, I'll have to give that stuff a look. Scraped the finish on my 03-A3 a few weeks back up in the bush, so even though it's my go-anywhere gun, I'd still like to keep it looking decent. how does that stuff hold up to trekking, and can you just throw it over the GI finish?

    The tried and true GI stock treatment is pure linseed oil or raw linseed oil. You may hear boiled linseed oil mentioned but my understanding is what is used as BLO today has chemicals and finishers in it that are not authentic GI. Linseed oil is nice but not as weather resistant as Tung oil. Linseed will give your rifle that nice red GI finish as they polymerize. It actually improves over time.

    Tung oil was approved on GI stocks as an alternate for Linseed oil. It can get shiny when the coats start to build and some guys don't like that on a GI stock. The tung oil finish is more stable - the color doesn't deepen and patina over time which can be a plus or minus. Tung oil has slightly better weather protection. Both the oils penetrate into the wood and you can enhance the depth of the treatment by cutting your first coat or two with mineral spirits.

    If you apply pure oil its a multi step process. Don't try to build protection in one session. Get your palms wet with the oil of choice and start rubbing to burnish off the top layer of wood. Force your oil/DNA into the pores of the wood. When your wrist and forearms feel like you have been home alone watching porn all day wipe off any excess oil. You do not want to leave pooled oil on the stock - it will become sticky. For the next few days I use the towel I used to wipe off the excess to wipe down the stock daily. This deposits a real fine layer of oil. Focus on areas that look dry. If you have real dry spots consider going to town again with your favorite hand.

    The good thing about the pure oils is that they are interchangeable. You can apply linseed over tung and vice versa. If you get a surface scratch a little more oil will buff it right out. I avoid any stock treatment that contains the word "finish" i.e "Linseed oil finish" or "Tung oil finish". These products have some form of polyurethane or chemical that will seal the stock and prevent invisible touch up refinishing. If you get a scrape with a pure oil treatment just give the entire stock a quick rub down and the protection is restored and your building more beauty.

    Oil the inside of your stock and a cleaning compartment bore if there is one. The armories dip tanked the wood and left them hanging in drying rooms.

    If you plan on using your rifle for serious wet outdoor activity you may opt instead for one of the "finishes". Those will really seal the wood from the elements. They wont be GI but they will be functional. Your determination on what matters to you authenticity or function.

    AND use caution with the wet linseed/tung oil rags. They can spontaneously combust as they polymerize especially linseed oils. Just lay them out flat exposed to the air so as the chemical reactions occur heat does not build up. The slightly damp rag I leave laying flat stays damp and has not burst into flame.
     
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    wow, looks like I'm going to have some thinking to do. I hate finished shiny crap, so I might just use tung oil on the one I've got, and whenever I go into truly apocalyptic conditions, I'll slap it in the "I don't care what it looks like" finished stock. Maybe even just get a C-Stock and coat that sucker with Truck Bedliner or something.
     
    wow, looks like I'm going to have some thinking to do. I hate finished shiny crap, so I might just use tung oil on the one I've got, and whenever I go into truly apocalyptic conditions, I'll slap it in the "I don't care what it looks like" finished stock. Maybe even just get a C-Stock and coat that sucker with Truck Bedliner or something.

    Ask VJJ Punisher if the "Cock stock" is available. That would be sweet on a classic 03.

    Dont hesitate to pm if I can be of any help.

    Phil M
     
    Ask VJJ Punisher if the "Cock stock" is available. That would be sweet on a classic 03.

    Dont hesitate to pm if I can be of any help.

    Phil M

    lol yeah, I can just imagine how the people of Chignik would react to a raggedy looking bearded dude coming out of the wilderness with a dick-covered rifle
     
    Please sir you need not deny the well expected. It is well known down here in the lower 48 that certain sacrifices must be made when one is able to access the pristine beauties of your glorious home. It is generally believed that the love that shall be nameless is just one of those compensations made in order to live on the frontier.

    Me thinks Anyone concerned with your shouldering the cock stock doth protest too much.
     
    Please sir you need not deny the well expected. It is well known down here in the lower 48 that certain sacrifices must be made when one is able to access the pristine beauties of your glorious home. It is generally believed that the love that shall be nameless is just one of those compensations made in order to live on the frontier.

    Me thinks Anyone concerned with your shouldering the cock stock doth protest too much.


    So I ran into these while surfing around after physics lab today-

    1903A3 Springfield NATO Green synthetic stock - $49.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.

    1903A3 Springfield Desert Sand synthetic stock - $49.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.

    and also,

    1903A3 Receivers [REC03] - $199.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.


    Pretty neat looking stocks, and I'm thinking of saving up to buy a few of those actions. anybody know anyone who has one of these stocks? I think the green one would fit the bill for my caribou hunt on the north slope this august... but I'd like to make sure there's no horror stories associated with them.
     
    So I ran into these while surfing around after physics lab today-

    1903A3 Springfield NATO Green synthetic stock - $49.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.

    1903A3 Springfield Desert Sand synthetic stock - $49.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.

    and also,

    1903A3 Receivers [REC03] - $199.95 : The Old Western Scrounger LLC.


    Pretty neat looking stocks, and I'm thinking of saving up to buy a few of those actions. anybody know anyone who has one of these stocks? I think the green one would fit the bill for my caribou hunt on the north slope this august... but I'd like to make sure there's no horror stories associated with them.

    The synthetic stocks were GI but they came off of drill rifles. Im unsure how serviceable they are for an actual firing rifle. Do a little research on that before buying.

    OWS is known for selling drill rifle receivers. Restoring a drill rifle is an argument like "Should a low number 03 be fired?". The consensus is that returning a drill rifle to firing condition is doable as long as the welds were not excessive.

    Im not saying those receivers shown are definitely drill rifle receivers but check into it before you buy. The procedure to make a drill rifle included welding the barrel to the receiver and welding the cutoff switch in the off position so the bolt could not be removed. OWS would have removed the welds already to sell these. Ask them up front if they are drill receivers and what to expect as far as weld damage.