Yep, I'm one of thoseI know of a couple guys who are getting rifles built to try it next year.
So... you've never, ever been squadded next to a Service Rifle (or gas-gun Match Rifle) shooter in a Prone match? Pretty much the same thing...My biggest concern is squading with regular f-class shooters. I don't want to shoot next to someone using a flash hider, and hot brass bouncing off me.
I think the flash hider part will be pretty simple... A2 flash hider (again, like Service Rifle), anything 'more aggressive' is probably going to be considered a brake.It will be interesting to see how match directors try to interpret the rules for flashhiders vs.muzzle brakes, what rear tactical bags can look like, etc...
I never have been squadded next to a gas gun in a match. I used to run a Monday night league where we would let guys that had brakes on their rifles shoot at the far end of the firing point together (22 firing points). The other big change is 5-30 round magazines vs having a single loading sled in the rifle.Yep, I'm one of those
So... you've never, ever been squadded next to a Service Rifle (or gas-gun Match Rifle) shooter in a Prone match? Pretty much the same thing...
Pro-tip #1: Don't wear shorts!
Pro-tip #2: There's a reason those Service/Match Rifle guys wear hooded sweatshirts under their shooting jackets even in the summer - and it ain't cuz it looks cool
*Usually* after the first time of someone shooting a completely 'stock' AR15 for Service Rifle and peppering the person next door with hot brass (even another sling shooter), they get a quick lesson on how to 'neuter' the ejector by taking a coil or two off the spring so that it throws them at ~1 o'clock, rather than 2:30-4:30 like they do 'stock'. Beats the crap out of being squadded next to some codger with a CMP Garand. Not much you can do about the ejection on those, and a hot '06 case to the head friggin' stings.
That said... hopefully people will figure out some way to keep their brass from flying all over tarnation - if for no other reason than it's a PITA to have to go hunt them down afterwards. Stick a shooting stool, range bag, 5 gallon bucket, something between them and the next shooter.
I think the flash hider part will be pretty simple... A2 flash hider (again, like Service Rifle), anything 'more aggressive' is probably going to be considered a brake.
I can see why match directors may not like the class... there is a lot of 'interpretive intent' language in the rules. Most MDs are busy with running the match, making sure everything is on time and above all else, *safe*. Adjudicating the finer points of whether a particular piece of gear is within the rules - particularly if it's not "their" discipline - is not high on their priority list on a good day...
I recently started "dabbling" in the prone tactical AR class. The local clubs treat it like the SR guys doing prone practice.wasn't uncommon to have mixed relays of sling and F-class, and where you have midrange sling, invariably you have some SR guy working on his Prone
Flash suppressors are legal in any NRA center-fire rifle sport and F class is no exception. The issue is not new since ARs have been the dominant rifle in NRA Service Rifle since the 1990s.It will be interesting to see how match directors try to interpret the rules for flashhiders vs.muzzle brakes, what rear tactical bags can look like, etc...
That's actually the right way to deal with that issue. It can't be these few things, otherwise have at it.Well, at least the rulebook says what "tactical" isn't.... Solid, adjustable and/or rigid rests of all kinds are prohibited. F-Class-style rear bags with “ears” are prohibited.
For our state and regional matches, rifles & equipment are usually weighed before the match. I have never seen things like width of the forearm measured.I don't expect it'll be that big of a problem.
When was the last time you saw a match director verifying *any* of the criteria in section 3 of the rule book?
Probably 95% of the times I've had my gun weighed have been at national (or international) events. State and regional matches... maybe at Missoula (Deep Creek), and then only probably because they shoot 1k BR there and have the mentality of checking/enforcing things like that already. WA, OR... nope. Not unless *I* bring the scale, and then I get a dirty look from the MD and it's made abundantly clear that it's "not official" - they don't want the hassle.For our state and regional matches, rifles & equipment are usually weighed before the match.
That's funny....because we are talking about the rules. However, we're not talking about Service Rifle. Besides, "Leg matches" are EIC governed under the CMP rules-which don't recognize Tactical AR. Yes, the EIC matches I've attended always seem to get inspected with a fine-tooth comb (triggers, scope magnification, stocks, weight, etc).Again, go read the rules.
Much appreciated. Its hard to find any solid information on competitions in Florida for Rifle. Even PRS there is not much in Florida.As far as I'm aware, it's another class/category fired alongside the others like Conventional Prone (i.e. sling) and F-class. So any 'regular' mid-range prone HP Rifle match should, in theory, be good to go.
Because it is a separate 'class', though, unless the Match Director specifically set up a separate match for MR AR Tactical when filing the paperwork, they may or may not have it broken out as such.
If you're really set on shooting MR AR Tactical and not FTR, then you may want to touch base with the MD before showing up and find out for sure. Some areas may have it set up that way; others... let's just say I know some MDs that pretty much copy-paste the same info from one year's match program to the next - you're lucky if they remember to change the dates!
That said... a friend of mine has been pretty active in MR AR Tactical down in Florida, just not sure exactly what range he frequents. I don't think he comes on the 'Hide much if at all, though. I'll see if he maybe has some more localized info for ya.
I agree it's hard to find any information about local competitions. Even the NRA website dedicated to competitions is lacking on info. Basically, the bottom of the page listing "Upcoming events" says to "call or email for more info". Short of checking with every local rifle range within reasonable driving distance, it all seems to be word of mouth for smaller NRA club matches.Its hard to find any solid information on competitions in Florida for Rifle.
I know I have been on there and many of the posts about the competitions and different divisions are 2-3 years old at best. I sent an email to them we will see what comes of it.I agree it's hard to find any information about local competitions. Even the NRA website dedicated to competitions is lacking on info. Basically, the bottom of the page listing "Upcoming events" says to "call or email for more info". Short of checking with every local rifle range within reasonable driving distance, it all seems to be word of mouth for smaller NRA club matches.
NRA's Competitive Shooting Division offers a wide range of activities in all types of shooting, for everyone from the novice to the world-class competitor. The NRA sanctions over 11,000 shooting tournaments and sponsors over 50 national championships each year.competitions.nra.org