Why does our military have so many jackass rules that prevent people from joining... cant go marines because of tattoos cant join air force have over $500 of collections against you cant go navy have excessive tattoos... the only branch i can join is the army and alot of guys i talk to say that they wouldnt go army again if they had the chance so i was hoping to get a little insite from the hide i know there are alot of military guys around here..
military reject...
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Do you think the stupid rules end once you get in? That is just the beginning. So if you are going to get mad at the rules to let you in, you are going to have a hard time once you are in.
Do you think the stupid rules end once you get in? That is just the beginning. So if you are going to get mad at the rules to let you in, you are going to have a hard time once you are in.
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i cant get in thats the problem.. i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know?
i cant get in thats the problem.. i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know?
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I think he was getting at, you should find a different profession. And idk what tattoos have to do with anything. I've seen alot of military guys with tats but maybe they got em afterwards, idk. I know alot of public service workers aren't allowed to have visible tattoos (ie. below the sleeves, on the neck, etc)
I think he was getting at, you should find a different profession. And idk what tattoos have to do with anything. I've seen alot of military guys with tats but maybe they got em afterwards, idk. I know alot of public service workers aren't allowed to have visible tattoos (ie. below the sleeves, on the neck, etc)
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If this is getting you bent out of shape I highly recommend you reconsider you choice to join. I've seen a lot of people come in and have the worst experience I think possible in the service because they couldn't handle the bullshit. A majority of the army, from my experience, is dealing with bullshit and figuring out how to spin it your way. Another thing people don't realize that not only does your time in the army effect you it effects dozens others. Your fellow joes, your leaders if you have good ones, the locals for the places you might deploy. If you're getting in thinking it's going to be kick ass and you'll be kicking in doors a lot of that part of the "war" is over. It's all handshakes and hugs. If you're ready learn some interesting things, meet some interesting people, and fight boredom 12 months at a time then join up and embrace the suck.
If this is getting you bent out of shape I highly recommend you reconsider you choice to join. I've seen a lot of people come in and have the worst experience I think possible in the service because they couldn't handle the bullshit. A majority of the army, from my experience, is dealing with bullshit and figuring out how to spin it your way. Another thing people don't realize that not only does your time in the army effect you it effects dozens others. Your fellow joes, your leaders if you have good ones, the locals for the places you might deploy. If you're getting in thinking it's going to be kick ass and you'll be kicking in doors a lot of that part of the "war" is over. It's all handshakes and hugs. If you're ready learn some interesting things, meet some interesting people, and fight boredom 12 months at a time then join up and embrace the suck.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know? </div></div>
Exactly. That is how you ended up all tattooed, and over 500 in collections, and whatever else you might not have mentioned. People have standards that they apply to others. You either adhere to them just in case, or you don't worry about future consequences and do your own thing. The do your own thing deal doesn't work out in a military setting. People with tats can join, so yours are probably outrageous, of a banned type (gang, nazi, whatever), or you just gave a bad vibe that got you fed a line of BS about the tats.
I could have my job with some tats, but probably not full sleeves. 500 in collections though... no more job. I paid my bills all these years, just in case it mattered later.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know? </div></div>
Exactly. That is how you ended up all tattooed, and over 500 in collections, and whatever else you might not have mentioned. People have standards that they apply to others. You either adhere to them just in case, or you don't worry about future consequences and do your own thing. The do your own thing deal doesn't work out in a military setting. People with tats can join, so yours are probably outrageous, of a banned type (gang, nazi, whatever), or you just gave a bad vibe that got you fed a line of BS about the tats.
I could have my job with some tats, but probably not full sleeves. 500 in collections though... no more job. I paid my bills all these years, just in case it mattered later.
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Can't speak for the Navy, but part of being a Marine is presenting a sharp military appearance. Extensive visible tattooing is not consistent with that.
As for the collections and other issues, it's an all-volunteer force. The days when the military was the refuge for last resort for badly behaved people who made bad choices in their youth are long gone.
Can't speak for the Navy, but part of being a Marine is presenting a sharp military appearance. Extensive visible tattooing is not consistent with that.
As for the collections and other issues, it's an all-volunteer force. The days when the military was the refuge for last resort for badly behaved people who made bad choices in their youth are long gone.
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Just guessing here, Jackdaddy, but are some of your tats Confederate flags, cannabis leaves or gang symbols?
Story: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=149729
Sounds like a content issue.
Just guessing here, Jackdaddy, but are some of your tats Confederate flags, cannabis leaves or gang symbols?
Story: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=149729
Sounds like a content issue.
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Don't feel so bad, I've been trying to get back in since 9-11, they got me on the volenteer list, but I guess they dont want old infantry officers. I figured they'd need someone to count mess kits if nothing else. I figured it would be easy when I was gray area, now that I've started drawing my pension its dern near impossible.
What sucked is setting home while your wife and kids go.
Talking about feeling useless.
Don't feel so bad, I've been trying to get back in since 9-11, they got me on the volenteer list, but I guess they dont want old infantry officers. I figured they'd need someone to count mess kits if nothing else. I figured it would be easy when I was gray area, now that I've started drawing my pension its dern near impossible.
What sucked is setting home while your wife and kids go.
Talking about feeling useless.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can't speak for the Navy, but part of being a Marine is presenting a sharp military appearance. Extensive visible tattooing is not consistent with that.</div></div>
With all due respect, Lindy, I disagree. The rules regarding tattoos are new (I'm only 26 and they didn't exist when I enlisted). The only rule that the Army had was that I couldn't have a tattoo that was visible when wearing a class A uniform.
Tattoos are a long standing military tradition and this rule is stupid.
I agree with the main sentiment here that the military is not a place for rowdy jackasses who failed at everything else in life. And I agree with the Sergeant above to talked about all the bullshit you're going to have to deal with.
To the OP:
The military just isn't for you. Find another line of work. It's not about tattoos or your credit. Your attitude will just end up dragging your fellow Soldiers down.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can't speak for the Navy, but part of being a Marine is presenting a sharp military appearance. Extensive visible tattooing is not consistent with that.</div></div>
With all due respect, Lindy, I disagree. The rules regarding tattoos are new (I'm only 26 and they didn't exist when I enlisted). The only rule that the Army had was that I couldn't have a tattoo that was visible when wearing a class A uniform.
Tattoos are a long standing military tradition and this rule is stupid.
I agree with the main sentiment here that the military is not a place for rowdy jackasses who failed at everything else in life. And I agree with the Sergeant above to talked about all the bullshit you're going to have to deal with.
To the OP:
The military just isn't for you. Find another line of work. It's not about tattoos or your credit. Your attitude will just end up dragging your fellow Soldiers down.
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The Corps does not ban all tattoos. Here's a description of what it does:
http://www.usmc.mil/unit/mcasyuma/Pages/20100204tattoo.aspx
I have no problem with those rules. Those who do not comply with them can join the Army. The Army needs people, too, and not everyone can be a Marine.
The Corps does not ban all tattoos. Here's a description of what it does:
http://www.usmc.mil/unit/mcasyuma/Pages/20100204tattoo.aspx
I have no problem with those rules. Those who do not comply with them can join the Army. The Army needs people, too, and not everyone can be a Marine.
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I can remember my Dad telling me when I was younger...
"Son, the decisions you make today can & will affect you in the future....so choose wisely..."
My Dad was career Infantry but never fell to the pressure to get tats with his fellow soldiers.....he always knew he would eventually retire & have to get a job in the "civilian world".....& he didn't want the tats to limit any job opportunity.
The older I get.....the wiser my old man seems to me.....
I can remember my Dad telling me when I was younger...
"Son, the decisions you make today can & will affect you in the future....so choose wisely..."
My Dad was career Infantry but never fell to the pressure to get tats with his fellow soldiers.....he always knew he would eventually retire & have to get a job in the "civilian world".....& he didn't want the tats to limit any job opportunity.
The older I get.....the wiser my old man seems to me.....
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And the older <span style="font-weight: bold">I</span> get the dumber I seem to be.
And the older <span style="font-weight: bold">I</span> get the dumber I seem to be.
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The older I get......The older I get ......The older I get....uhh what was I saying?
The older I get......The older I get ......The older I get....uhh what was I saying?
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Man, thats BS. Several guys I served with in the Marines back in the 80's had freakin sleeves of ink. Sailors too for that matter.
If Army is the only group that will take you because you got ink, then stop being a pussy and go sign the papers and quit making excuses as to why you can't serve. It ain't all bad, just some stuff. It's a job like most others with it's good stuff and bad stuff, but nothing beats the deployments or some of the places you will go, people you will meet, and things you will see.
Man, thats BS. Several guys I served with in the Marines back in the 80's had freakin sleeves of ink. Sailors too for that matter.
If Army is the only group that will take you because you got ink, then stop being a pussy and go sign the papers and quit making excuses as to why you can't serve. It ain't all bad, just some stuff. It's a job like most others with it's good stuff and bad stuff, but nothing beats the deployments or some of the places you will go, people you will meet, and things you will see.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no problem with those rules. Those who do not comply with them can join the Army. The Army needs people, too, and not everyone can be a Marine.</div></div>
Thats funny, thats the same thing we said about the Marines.
Tats were not allowed in many MOS's in my day in the Army either,... it's hard to blend if your a canvas.
jackdaddy
There are many reasons for the Uniformed, Enlistment rules. All of the branchs have their own versons based on their MOS needs, at the time frame, you inquire.
Tats can give an open insight to their owners, trats. Depending the MOS your looking/applying for, they can close many doors, Military, and Civi.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no problem with those rules. Those who do not comply with them can join the Army. The Army needs people, too, and not everyone can be a Marine.</div></div>
Thats funny, thats the same thing we said about the Marines.
Tats were not allowed in many MOS's in my day in the Army either,... it's hard to blend if your a canvas.
jackdaddy
There are many reasons for the Uniformed, Enlistment rules. All of the branchs have their own versons based on their MOS needs, at the time frame, you inquire.
Tats can give an open insight to their owners, trats. Depending the MOS your looking/applying for, they can close many doors, Military, and Civi.
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Don't even know what the argument is. The economy is bad, recruiting is up, so that means the standards are up again too.
Don't even know what the argument is. The economy is bad, recruiting is up, so that means the standards are up again too.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mexican match</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The older i get the smarter my parents get. </div></div>
so true!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mexican match</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The older i get the smarter my parents get. </div></div>
so true!!
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I had a homicide case finally go to trial, the perp was 14 and shot a 63 year old in the back of the head after he tried to rob him. The old cajun just told the kid to F*** Off and walked away. Well, long story short 4 years later at the trial, the now 18 year old showed up with his attorney, dressed in a suit, well groomed, with a jail house tattoo of a "cross" on his forehead. All I could do to keep from laughing was to bite my lip. Hey if there is a door i will walk through it. When the District Attorney asked me to identify the perpetrator in the courtroom, I said," Yes, its the young black man in the blue suit with the "cross" prison tattoo on his forehead." Think the jury wasn't curious. Needless to say he got life imprisonment. DUMBASS!
Not really relevant, just thought I would share.
I had a homicide case finally go to trial, the perp was 14 and shot a 63 year old in the back of the head after he tried to rob him. The old cajun just told the kid to F*** Off and walked away. Well, long story short 4 years later at the trial, the now 18 year old showed up with his attorney, dressed in a suit, well groomed, with a jail house tattoo of a "cross" on his forehead. All I could do to keep from laughing was to bite my lip. Hey if there is a door i will walk through it. When the District Attorney asked me to identify the perpetrator in the courtroom, I said," Yes, its the young black man in the blue suit with the "cross" prison tattoo on his forehead." Think the jury wasn't curious. Needless to say he got life imprisonment. DUMBASS!
Not really relevant, just thought I would share.
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Good Job Witch.
I'm sure we all thank you. I know I do.
I'll leave the "eye for an eye" and "a cap to the back of the head for a cap to the back of the head" comments to someone else though. I don't want to open that door.
Good Job Witch.
I'm sure we all thank you. I know I do.
I'll leave the "eye for an eye" and "a cap to the back of the head for a cap to the back of the head" comments to someone else though. I don't want to open that door.
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Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BugSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know? </div></div>
Exactly. That is how you ended up all tattooed, and over 500 in collections, and whatever else you might not have mentioned. People have standards that they apply to others. You either adhere to them just in case, or you don't worry about future consequences and do your own thing. The do your own thing deal doesn't work out in a military setting. People with tats can join, so yours are probably outrageous, of a banned type (gang, nazi, whatever), or you just gave a bad vibe that got you fed a line of BS about the tats.
I could have my job with some tats, but probably not full sleeves. 500 in collections though... no more job. I paid my bills all these years, just in case it mattered later. </div></div>
wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BugSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just don understand why my having tattoos has anything to do with me performing any duties thats what i wanna know? </div></div>
Exactly. That is how you ended up all tattooed, and over 500 in collections, and whatever else you might not have mentioned. People have standards that they apply to others. You either adhere to them just in case, or you don't worry about future consequences and do your own thing. The do your own thing deal doesn't work out in a military setting. People with tats can join, so yours are probably outrageous, of a banned type (gang, nazi, whatever), or you just gave a bad vibe that got you fed a line of BS about the tats.
I could have my job with some tats, but probably not full sleeves. 500 in collections though... no more job. I paid my bills all these years, just in case it mattered later. </div></div>
wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
thats not the case at all i just said a few people i have talked to told me not to go army i never said that i have a problem going army my man.. but thanks for the info seriously
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
thats not the case at all i just said a few people i have talked to told me not to go army i never said that i have a problem going army my man.. but thanks for the info seriously
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I'll throw in on this-
Debts in Collection-
This is a liability; I'm surprised no one mentioned it, maybe no one with a clearance has jumped on her yet, I don't know. BUT, you absolutely CAN NOT get a security clearance of ANY LEVEL when you have a high debt to income ratio or are in collections on debt. It's an issue of you being a more likely candidate for selling information. They don't want ANYONE with those sorts of liabilities.
This isn't about what you think is fair or what you think is just. This is about the individual services tailoring their recruiting standards to their personnel requirements. The Army is a LARGE force, and there are MANY support personnel. Their demand for bodies is much higher than the other three forces. They are your "Main Effort" force- providing the large volume of men needed on the battle field. To do this, they sometimes have to lower their standards a bit compared to other branches. Of course, that doesn't mean they are sticking those guys that slide in under the radar into key job vacancies. Long story short, complaining about it won't do you any good- they are the military, and they have wide latitude to enforce their own standards. If you don't like it, I advise you look at a different line of work.
By the way, what do you have against the Army, given you've never served (and you shouldn't listen to only the disenfranchised)? The Army has some of the most elite troops in the DOD- if you want to be a lazy dirt-bag fat-ass cook, you can do that. If you want to be a counter-terrorist door kicker (CAG), you can do that too (if you're good enough). You should feel fortunate they'll even except you- if you were a single parent just trying to put food in your kid's mouth, you'd be turned away immediately. Simply put, the Army is what you make it- don't be content with the bottom of the heap, then bitch because you aren't treated like an operator from group.
I'll throw in on this-
Debts in Collection-
This is a liability; I'm surprised no one mentioned it, maybe no one with a clearance has jumped on her yet, I don't know. BUT, you absolutely CAN NOT get a security clearance of ANY LEVEL when you have a high debt to income ratio or are in collections on debt. It's an issue of you being a more likely candidate for selling information. They don't want ANYONE with those sorts of liabilities.
This isn't about what you think is fair or what you think is just. This is about the individual services tailoring their recruiting standards to their personnel requirements. The Army is a LARGE force, and there are MANY support personnel. Their demand for bodies is much higher than the other three forces. They are your "Main Effort" force- providing the large volume of men needed on the battle field. To do this, they sometimes have to lower their standards a bit compared to other branches. Of course, that doesn't mean they are sticking those guys that slide in under the radar into key job vacancies. Long story short, complaining about it won't do you any good- they are the military, and they have wide latitude to enforce their own standards. If you don't like it, I advise you look at a different line of work.
By the way, what do you have against the Army, given you've never served (and you shouldn't listen to only the disenfranchised)? The Army has some of the most elite troops in the DOD- if you want to be a lazy dirt-bag fat-ass cook, you can do that. If you want to be a counter-terrorist door kicker (CAG), you can do that too (if you're good enough). You should feel fortunate they'll even except you- if you were a single parent just trying to put food in your kid's mouth, you'd be turned away immediately. Simply put, the Army is what you make it- don't be content with the bottom of the heap, then bitch because you aren't treated like an operator from group.
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I'm researching clearance right now because of the contractor thread (see that one for details but please don't hijack)... from what I have read, they are VERY picky about your debts and you had better expect to have anything you've ever done wrong come up to the surface.
I'm glad that I have paid for everything I own on time and fully. I've had my truck loan for 5 years, never made a late payment, even while unemployed. I know shit happens, but if you want it to go away, then pay 'em back. You said "over" $500, so I don't know (or want to, honestly) how much you owe, but perhaps you should think about a job in the civy area to get your stuff straight and then try again. Wouldn't it be great to say "yeah, I fucked up, but I cowboy'ed up and took care of it"?
Also, if you have criminal convictions, forget about it.
Good luck man. If you wanna go in ASAP, then contact ARMY and go from there. Maybe they will still be able to use you while you settle your financial issues.
I'm researching clearance right now because of the contractor thread (see that one for details but please don't hijack)... from what I have read, they are VERY picky about your debts and you had better expect to have anything you've ever done wrong come up to the surface.
I'm glad that I have paid for everything I own on time and fully. I've had my truck loan for 5 years, never made a late payment, even while unemployed. I know shit happens, but if you want it to go away, then pay 'em back. You said "over" $500, so I don't know (or want to, honestly) how much you owe, but perhaps you should think about a job in the civy area to get your stuff straight and then try again. Wouldn't it be great to say "yeah, I fucked up, but I cowboy'ed up and took care of it"?
Also, if you have criminal convictions, forget about it.
Good luck man. If you wanna go in ASAP, then contact ARMY and go from there. Maybe they will still be able to use you while you settle your financial issues.
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DP425,bcw1284 thank you for the information it is very helpful and i do understand that debt collection now it makes sence it was just no body had told me why just said you cant join.. but thank you two for the simple response that helped a ton..
DP425,bcw1284 thank you for the information it is very helpful and i do understand that debt collection now it makes sence it was just no body had told me why just said you cant join.. but thank you two for the simple response that helped a ton..
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As has been stated, debt = no clearance. Sleeves = no enlistment (USN and USMC). It's new, within the last 10yrs. It happened either when I was on AD or just got off of AD. The Army is fine, who cares what your friends say about it, if you want to serve than you'll do so in any capacity you can. If you don't, well then you'll make plenty of excuses not to. Do a little soul searching and determine how bad you want it.
As has been stated, debt = no clearance. Sleeves = no enlistment (USN and USMC). It's new, within the last 10yrs. It happened either when I was on AD or just got off of AD. The Army is fine, who cares what your friends say about it, if you want to serve than you'll do so in any capacity you can. If you don't, well then you'll make plenty of excuses not to. Do a little soul searching and determine how bad you want it.
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One must choose between being a beggar and being a chooser.
I served in combat with members of all the Services, and found that honor and courage know no uniform, and that one who subjugates the needs of one's comrades to one's own needs soon finds himself alone in the midst of adversity. There is not enough luck in the world to make up for one's comrades' support in time of need.
Greg
One must choose between being a beggar and being a chooser.
I served in combat with members of all the Services, and found that honor and courage know no uniform, and that one who subjugates the needs of one's comrades to one's own needs soon finds himself alone in the midst of adversity. There is not enough luck in the world to make up for one's comrades' support in time of need.
Greg
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy </div></div>
LOL, what conclusions? I said yours are too outrageous or of banned type. They are too outrageous, as you've been told. I also pointed out, politely beating around the bush, that a 500 debt can make you look like poo, and without going into specifics you might not be clearable. The combination of debt and outrageous tats, neither of which you thought were going to restrict your life options, is in fact restricting your life options... that's not a conclusion jumped to, but your own reality presented by yourself.
I explained the cause of the conclusion you already outlined, because you were confused enough to start a thread. To most people, there was an obvious reason, and you were bombarded with it over and over. How could you not know why you were being declined, reading your first post? You yourself stated you have the outlook that racking up debt and getting sleeves should not be an issue to anyone but you, especially not your employer, so my response was just that, "exactly". In my experience, this outlook creates a cycle of dumbass behavior, followed by bewilderment as to why you're being punished, but I am not going to jump to conclusions re: your history or future.
Now, re: criminal convictions, you are not a clearance reject automatically. You can still get at least a TS clearance. It just depends on what the conviction was and how long ago.
I don't have a problem with tats or pink hair or piercings or female nudists. All my friends have disfigured themselves in some way, and I'm considering getting my family crest on my entire back, invisible to everyone else. If I was hiring though, I would acknowledge that it might not be so good for business to hire people like that, well except a few fem nudists. You weren't raised by wolves (sorry if that's an incorrect conclusion), and I'm sure someone gave you the tattoos are forever and some people don't like 'em speech. Likewise, if my best employee was beating his wife, I'd fire his ass. It may not affect his work, but to me it shows crap decision making and is simply not something I personally approve of.
In other words, I ain't jumping on you for who you are. I don't think tats way you down on a mission. I am jumping on you for being truant from what I might call Logic in Real Life 101.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy </div></div>
LOL, what conclusions? I said yours are too outrageous or of banned type. They are too outrageous, as you've been told. I also pointed out, politely beating around the bush, that a 500 debt can make you look like poo, and without going into specifics you might not be clearable. The combination of debt and outrageous tats, neither of which you thought were going to restrict your life options, is in fact restricting your life options... that's not a conclusion jumped to, but your own reality presented by yourself.
I explained the cause of the conclusion you already outlined, because you were confused enough to start a thread. To most people, there was an obvious reason, and you were bombarded with it over and over. How could you not know why you were being declined, reading your first post? You yourself stated you have the outlook that racking up debt and getting sleeves should not be an issue to anyone but you, especially not your employer, so my response was just that, "exactly". In my experience, this outlook creates a cycle of dumbass behavior, followed by bewilderment as to why you're being punished, but I am not going to jump to conclusions re: your history or future.
Now, re: criminal convictions, you are not a clearance reject automatically. You can still get at least a TS clearance. It just depends on what the conviction was and how long ago.
I don't have a problem with tats or pink hair or piercings or female nudists. All my friends have disfigured themselves in some way, and I'm considering getting my family crest on my entire back, invisible to everyone else. If I was hiring though, I would acknowledge that it might not be so good for business to hire people like that, well except a few fem nudists. You weren't raised by wolves (sorry if that's an incorrect conclusion), and I'm sure someone gave you the tattoos are forever and some people don't like 'em speech. Likewise, if my best employee was beating his wife, I'd fire his ass. It may not affect his work, but to me it shows crap decision making and is simply not something I personally approve of.
In other words, I ain't jumping on you for who you are. I don't think tats way you down on a mission. I am jumping on you for being truant from what I might call Logic in Real Life 101.
Re: military reject...
Army is projected to make its yearly recruiting goal at ~7 months-- reflection of a bad economy and Iraq commitment winding down. Recruiting standards are being held at a long-time high because of the pool of willing folks. That said, it hasn't slowed down much for us yet.
Army is projected to make its yearly recruiting goal at ~7 months-- reflection of a bad economy and Iraq commitment winding down. Recruiting standards are being held at a long-time high because of the pool of willing folks. That said, it hasn't slowed down much for us yet.
Re: military reject...
I'm 44 and in a career that has been paying well, I work for a Defense contractor and am going on June 10th to get a HUGE woman bad-ass (Hot) samurai babe on my leg....
But we have policies here about having arms visible with tats - because we have to interact with customers occasionally.
Switch - you mentioned the 80's - that was the 80's, 30 years ago already..
Your tats that I saw - while fine by me, MIGHT stop you from getting past the first interview with my company.
Might, not necessarily as long as they were covered up but it would suck having to wear a long sleeve shirt in the summer.
To the OP It's called Uniformity. It's what the Military wants, if you want the Military you must do what they want.
I'm 44 and in a career that has been paying well, I work for a Defense contractor and am going on June 10th to get a HUGE woman bad-ass (Hot) samurai babe on my leg....
But we have policies here about having arms visible with tats - because we have to interact with customers occasionally.
Switch - you mentioned the 80's - that was the 80's, 30 years ago already..
Your tats that I saw - while fine by me, MIGHT stop you from getting past the first interview with my company.
Might, not necessarily as long as they were covered up but it would suck having to wear a long sleeve shirt in the summer.
To the OP It's called Uniformity. It's what the Military wants, if you want the Military you must do what they want.
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BugSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy </div></div>
LOL, what conclusions? I said yours are too outrageous or of banned type. They are too outrageous, as you've been told. I also pointed out, politely beating around the bush, that a 500 debt can make you look like poo, and without going into specifics you might not be clearable. The combination of debt and outrageous tats, neither of which you thought were going to restrict your life options, is in fact restricting your life options... that's not a conclusion jumped to, but your own reality presented by yourself.
I explained the cause of the conclusion you already outlined, because you were confused enough to start a thread. To most people, there was an obvious reason, and you were bombarded with it over and over. How could you not know why you were being declined, reading your first post? You yourself stated you have the outlook that racking up debt and getting sleeves should not be an issue to anyone but you, especially not your employer, so my response was just that, "exactly". In my experience, this outlook creates a cycle of dumbass behavior, followed by bewilderment as to why you're being punished, but I am not going to jump to conclusions re: your history or future.
Now, re: criminal convictions, you are not a clearance reject automatically. You can still get at least a TS clearance. It just depends on what the conviction was and how long ago.
I don't have a problem with tats or pink hair or piercings or female nudists. All my friends have disfigured themselves in some way, and I'm considering getting my family crest on my entire back, invisible to everyone else. If I was hiring though, I would acknowledge that it might not be so good for business to hire people like that, well except a few fem nudists. You weren't raised by wolves (sorry if that's an incorrect conclusion), and I'm sure someone gave you the tattoos are forever and some people don't like 'em speech. Likewise, if my best employee was beating his wife, I'd fire his ass. It may not affect his work, but to me it shows crap decision making and is simply not something I personally approve of.
In other words, I ain't jumping on you for who you are. I don't think tats way you down on a mission. I am jumping on you for being truant from what I might call Logic in Real Life 101. </div></div>
ohh well why didnt you just say that in the first place..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BugSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow look at you jump to conclusions.. Well for your rant about my tats being (gang,Nazi,whatever), there are none of those just sleeves so they can be seen so i was disqualified from marines and navy they have new policy. i always pay the bills that i can afford but still not sure what that has to do with me being in the military but i guess im just not ment to join marines,air force,navy </div></div>
LOL, what conclusions? I said yours are too outrageous or of banned type. They are too outrageous, as you've been told. I also pointed out, politely beating around the bush, that a 500 debt can make you look like poo, and without going into specifics you might not be clearable. The combination of debt and outrageous tats, neither of which you thought were going to restrict your life options, is in fact restricting your life options... that's not a conclusion jumped to, but your own reality presented by yourself.
I explained the cause of the conclusion you already outlined, because you were confused enough to start a thread. To most people, there was an obvious reason, and you were bombarded with it over and over. How could you not know why you were being declined, reading your first post? You yourself stated you have the outlook that racking up debt and getting sleeves should not be an issue to anyone but you, especially not your employer, so my response was just that, "exactly". In my experience, this outlook creates a cycle of dumbass behavior, followed by bewilderment as to why you're being punished, but I am not going to jump to conclusions re: your history or future.
Now, re: criminal convictions, you are not a clearance reject automatically. You can still get at least a TS clearance. It just depends on what the conviction was and how long ago.
I don't have a problem with tats or pink hair or piercings or female nudists. All my friends have disfigured themselves in some way, and I'm considering getting my family crest on my entire back, invisible to everyone else. If I was hiring though, I would acknowledge that it might not be so good for business to hire people like that, well except a few fem nudists. You weren't raised by wolves (sorry if that's an incorrect conclusion), and I'm sure someone gave you the tattoos are forever and some people don't like 'em speech. Likewise, if my best employee was beating his wife, I'd fire his ass. It may not affect his work, but to me it shows crap decision making and is simply not something I personally approve of.
In other words, I ain't jumping on you for who you are. I don't think tats way you down on a mission. I am jumping on you for being truant from what I might call Logic in Real Life 101. </div></div>
ohh well why didnt you just say that in the first place..
Re: military reject...
I have no issue with those thin dress type shirts after having spent a few seasons wearing full battle rattle in Afghanistan. MAtter of fact, I am taking my resume to a place tomorrow that means exactly that. 80* and LS shirt. NP bro! If they say LS shirts are good to go, then I'll have to ask about their ink policy, but last I checked, my ladies ain't offensive nor is my Americana
On another note, the tats I have seen on the newest Soldiers, well, ink on the neck, hands and some facial are fine in the Army these days. SHoot just look at some of th thuggish gang banger stuff and all these guys have to tell a recruiter is,"Oh I am out of the gang and trying to straighten out my life" Too bad it's mostly BS and they are usually right back to business at the first duty assignment
I have no issue with those thin dress type shirts after having spent a few seasons wearing full battle rattle in Afghanistan. MAtter of fact, I am taking my resume to a place tomorrow that means exactly that. 80* and LS shirt. NP bro! If they say LS shirts are good to go, then I'll have to ask about their ink policy, but last I checked, my ladies ain't offensive nor is my Americana
On another note, the tats I have seen on the newest Soldiers, well, ink on the neck, hands and some facial are fine in the Army these days. SHoot just look at some of th thuggish gang banger stuff and all these guys have to tell a recruiter is,"Oh I am out of the gang and trying to straighten out my life" Too bad it's mostly BS and they are usually right back to business at the first duty assignment
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish
Re: military reject...
One option would be to get the tats removed. Now, before you call me out for being crazy, you have to understand I have witnessed that exact thing. They came out with the tat rules when I was in school. If you had a tat that showed in swim trunks...yes, swim trunks, then it had to be removed or you didn't graduate.
Secondly, it has already been stated that debt can cost you clearances. It cost a tomahawk FC1 in my division and ended his Navy career. Lost the TS, lost his rate, was at high year tenure, and they showed him the door. Didn't matter what recommendation we wrote for him...Game over.
With the new total force goals the military can pick and choose who it takes. You are just falling on the wrong end of the deal at present.
Josh
One option would be to get the tats removed. Now, before you call me out for being crazy, you have to understand I have witnessed that exact thing. They came out with the tat rules when I was in school. If you had a tat that showed in swim trunks...yes, swim trunks, then it had to be removed or you didn't graduate.
Secondly, it has already been stated that debt can cost you clearances. It cost a tomahawk FC1 in my division and ended his Navy career. Lost the TS, lost his rate, was at high year tenure, and they showed him the door. Didn't matter what recommendation we wrote for him...Game over.
With the new total force goals the military can pick and choose who it takes. You are just falling on the wrong end of the deal at present.
Josh
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why does our military have so many jackass rules that prevent me from joining... cant go marines because i have tattoos cant join air force have over $500 of collections against me cant go navy have excessive tattoos on my arms.. </div></div>
It shows bad judgment, which is not a desirable trait. Should tats bar you from service, no but society says yes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why does our military have so many jackass rules that prevent me from joining... cant go marines because i have tattoos cant join air force have over $500 of collections against me cant go navy have excessive tattoos on my arms.. </div></div>
It shows bad judgment, which is not a desirable trait. Should tats bar you from service, no but society says yes.
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i always pay the bills that i can afford</div></div>
You have to be kidding. I'm afraid the road that lies ahead of you in life, might be long and hard.
It is a privilege to serve-not a right.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i always pay the bills that i can afford</div></div>
You have to be kidding. I'm afraid the road that lies ahead of you in life, might be long and hard.
It is a privilege to serve-not a right.
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lt. Arclight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i always pay the bills that i can afford</div></div>
You have to be kidding. I'm afraid the road that lies ahead of you in life, might be long and hard.
It is a privilege to serve-not a right. </div></div>
no not kidding im sure im not the only one that has debt problems and the road that lies ahead of me in life may be long and hard but ill still walk that road that lies in front of me with my tattoos and with my debt collection..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lt. Arclight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i always pay the bills that i can afford</div></div>
You have to be kidding. I'm afraid the road that lies ahead of you in life, might be long and hard.
It is a privilege to serve-not a right. </div></div>
no not kidding im sure im not the only one that has debt problems and the road that lies ahead of me in life may be long and hard but ill still walk that road that lies in front of me with my tattoos and with my debt collection..
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish </div></div>
so your saying if i dont join im a pussy who has done nothing in life?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish </div></div>
so your saying if i dont join im a pussy who has done nothing in life?
Re: military reject...
Join who will take you. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Whining about how it is unfair is as unimpressive as your debt in collections.
I’m going to start an Internet hand holding service. I’ll make a fucking fortune on this forum alone.
Join who will take you. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Whining about how it is unfair is as unimpressive as your debt in collections.
I’m going to start an Internet hand holding service. I’ll make a fucking fortune on this forum alone.
Re: military reject...
Did you pay for your tatoos with credit cards? Seriously, you need to take care of your debts before wasting money on tats.
James
Did you pay for your tatoos with credit cards? Seriously, you need to take care of your debts before wasting money on tats.
James
Re: military reject...
I think his initial question was referrng to "when did tats in military service become unacceptable". I didn't realize myself that it would be a disqualifying point. Shows what I know
.
I think his initial question was referrng to "when did tats in military service become unacceptable". I didn't realize myself that it would be a disqualifying point. Shows what I know
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Join who will take you. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Whining about how it is unfair is as unimpressive as your debt in collections.
I’m going to start an Internet hand holding service. I’ll make a fucking fortune on this forum alone.
</div></div>
Priceless...can I help invest?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Join who will take you. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Whining about how it is unfair is as unimpressive as your debt in collections.
I’m going to start an Internet hand holding service. I’ll make a fucking fortune on this forum alone.
</div></div>
Priceless...can I help invest?
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
</div></div>
Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish </div></div>
so your saying if i dont join im a pussy who has done nothing in life? </div></div>
Dude, you took us there. SO yes,I am. You have the oppurtunity to sign up and 'Go Army' because you want to serve and no other branch will allow you. You have teh word of two or more who have or are serving in teh US Army that it's a rewarding and sometimes fucked up place but still good. YOU made the decision to be a pussy and start a one man whine fest here so now you have a choice. SUck it up and stop cryin like a bitch and sign a contract or go away and be a civilian who will never have the ability to say,"I been there and done that". Way I see it dude, you'se a pussy cryin like a bitch* to the wrong crowd
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Yeah, Godsmack 'Oracle' arrives tomorrow, pre ordered, box set!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackdaddy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jackdaddy,
If serving in the Army isn't good enough for you then you don't deserve to serve. No Armed Service is to low for someone to join. The Army is nothing to sneeze at. Just like any other service, you will eat more than your share of bullshit when what you really want is to get in the action and adventure. you will have your share of shit details and have to put up with being jerked around by certified morons plus deal with the fact that you are without a doubt the lowest magget on the totem pole. But if you're to good for being a Army Soldier instead of a Marine, then enjoy your "been nowhere, never did anything" life.
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Very well stated...been nowhere, never did anything... ROFLMMFAO! That is funny!
Being a Marine was the best part of my life in service, but being a SOldier I got to see other stuff that I would have never seen, plus I went cool places with lots of sand and brought back some really good, and some really bad stories. SUch is life, but when it's all said and done I can look back and say,"Fuck Yeah, I went there, did that, and am sitting here drinking YOUR beer telling YOU about it!"
Get out there, join up, make your own stories and come back to tell them with a jaunty walk and a smile with eyes that have been there and done it. Oh, and if you think you ain't a pussy for not joining the Army because the Marines won't have you, well son as the little robots told the kid in the movie,"You's a PUSSY!" so either get your ass into the recruiter or live your lot in life being a pussy that never did shit but wish </div></div>
so your saying if i dont join im a pussy who has done nothing in life? </div></div>
Dude, you took us there. SO yes,I am. You have the oppurtunity to sign up and 'Go Army' because you want to serve and no other branch will allow you. You have teh word of two or more who have or are serving in teh US Army that it's a rewarding and sometimes fucked up place but still good. YOU made the decision to be a pussy and start a one man whine fest here so now you have a choice. SUck it up and stop cryin like a bitch and sign a contract or go away and be a civilian who will never have the ability to say,"I been there and done that". Way I see it dude, you'se a pussy cryin like a bitch* to the wrong crowd
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Yeah, Godsmack 'Oracle' arrives tomorrow, pre ordered, box set!
Re: military reject...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yeah, Godsmack 'Oracle' arrives tomorrow, pre ordered, box set! </div></div>
I saw that is out already. cool
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yeah, Godsmack 'Oracle' arrives tomorrow, pre ordered, box set! </div></div>
I saw that is out already. cool
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