Considering the 5" M&P pro9 the new XDM 5.25 in 9 and the Glock 34 I'm wondering what the opinions were of which was the most ACCURATE out the box, I'm not looking for info on trigger reset bore axis recoil price capacity etc etc, just which is the most inherently accurate.
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First off I'm a Glock guy and second I hate XDs because of the 100% price mark up Springfield did when they bought the rights to it, but Glocks Sigs HKs M&Ps XDs all lock up the same and mechanically there are all about the same in the accuracy department, Ransom Rest proves that without a doubt, so try before you buy, and get the one you can shoot the best or are willing to learn to shoot the best.
First off I'm a Glock guy and second I hate XDs because of the 100% price mark up Springfield did when they bought the rights to it, but Glocks Sigs HKs M&Ps XDs all lock up the same and mechanically there are all about the same in the accuracy department, Ransom Rest proves that without a doubt, so try before you buy, and get the one you can shoot the best or are willing to learn to shoot the best.
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Throw the Walther P99 in there, too: http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1973-Week-3-Dot-Torture&p=31453&viewfull=1#post31453
There's five pages of results and that subforum certainly has other somewhat objective data for you to consider.
Throw the Walther P99 in there, too: http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1973-Week-3-Dot-Torture&p=31453&viewfull=1#post31453
There's five pages of results and that subforum certainly has other somewhat objective data for you to consider.
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As said above, almost all of the well known modern pistols will be extremely close in accuracy out of the box. I am a huge fan of the M&P but some of the 9mm's have been known to have erratic accuracy around the 25 yard mark, it is fairly well documented. Not sure what your intended range is.
As said above, almost all of the well known modern pistols will be extremely close in accuracy out of the box. I am a huge fan of the M&P but some of the 9mm's have been known to have erratic accuracy around the 25 yard mark, it is fairly well documented. Not sure what your intended range is.
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I had a 34 Glock and currently shot a M&P Pro 9 and have found them to be real close in accuracy. Both being totally acceptable for USPSA / IPSC work out to the normal distances the matches are set for these days. IMO none of these will touch a well built / finely tuned 1911 but they are great guns none the less. If you want to improve either go with an aftermarket barrel. My nod goes to the M&P Pro. Accurate enough and loads better ergonomically than the Glock.
I had a 34 Glock and currently shot a M&P Pro 9 and have found them to be real close in accuracy. Both being totally acceptable for USPSA / IPSC work out to the normal distances the matches are set for these days. IMO none of these will touch a well built / finely tuned 1911 but they are great guns none the less. If you want to improve either go with an aftermarket barrel. My nod goes to the M&P Pro. Accurate enough and loads better ergonomically than the Glock.
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Probably the one you practice with the most. I doubt that the accuracy of any of the pistols mentioned differs greatly, at least I've never noticed a difference.
Probably the one you practice with the most. I doubt that the accuracy of any of the pistols mentioned differs greatly, at least I've never noticed a difference.
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The "Match barrel" makes no difference. I see no difference of accuracy between M&P, XDM or glock 34. They are all around 2 inch at 25 yards accuracy wise.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The XDm's come with a match barrel. </div></div>
The "Match barrel" makes no difference. I see no difference of accuracy between M&P, XDM or glock 34. They are all around 2 inch at 25 yards accuracy wise.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The XDm's come with a match barrel. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Match" barrel fit by a Croation flunkie versus US-made M&P for basically the same price?
Seems like a no-brainer to me. </div></div>
Am I supposed to say that you're patriotic, or am I supposed to be believe that only junk is made in Croatia?
SA's balkan contractor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS_Produkt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Match" barrel fit by a Croation flunkie versus US-made M&P for basically the same price?
Seems like a no-brainer to me. </div></div>
Am I supposed to say that you're patriotic, or am I supposed to be believe that only junk is made in Croatia?
SA's balkan contractor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS_Produkt
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BX1129</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The "Match barrel" makes no difference. I see no difference of accuracy between M&P, XDM or glock 34. They are all around 2 inch at 25 yards accuracy wise.</div></div>
So are you saying Match barrels for these pistols are just a marketing scam??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BX1129</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The "Match barrel" makes no difference. I see no difference of accuracy between M&P, XDM or glock 34. They are all around 2 inch at 25 yards accuracy wise.</div></div>
So are you saying Match barrels for these pistols are just a marketing scam??
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Match" barrel fit by a Croation flunkie versus US-made M&P for basically the same price?
Seems like a no-brainer to me. </div></div>
Am I supposed to say that you're patriotic, or am I supposed to be believe that only junk is made in Croatia?
SA's balkan contractor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS_Produkt </div></div>
It's neither of those things.
I have all kinds of imported products and I'm pleased as punch with them (including my Dodge pickup, made in Mexico).
It's pretty hard to find labor capable of more high-quality machining, especially on firearms, than in the USA, however.
Look at 1911s. Taurus and the cheaper Springfield Armory pistols under $800ish are made in Brazil. RIA and a number of others, made in the Philippines, are in the $4-600 range. US made guns start at what, $800 Ruger/Sig and go on up from there? ($1000 STI, $13-1400 Springfield TRP/EMP).
Are you really, honestly going to tell me that if a Springfield TRP, STI Trojan, or even a Sig were the same price (or within 10%ish) as a Taurus PT1911, that you'd buy the Taurus?
I wouldn't say that comparing the Croatian guns to American is that remarkable of a difference, but it's certainly enough that the M&P is, in my opinion, a better buy, <span style="font-style: italic">cetirus paribus</span>.
The XD and XDM are both very nice guns, but they're not as good a value as the M&P is. In a perfect world, I'd have all three. But since my $$$ is scarce, I picked what I think is the best value, and that's the M&P.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Match" barrel fit by a Croation flunkie versus US-made M&P for basically the same price?
Seems like a no-brainer to me. </div></div>
Am I supposed to say that you're patriotic, or am I supposed to be believe that only junk is made in Croatia?
SA's balkan contractor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS_Produkt </div></div>
It's neither of those things.
I have all kinds of imported products and I'm pleased as punch with them (including my Dodge pickup, made in Mexico).
It's pretty hard to find labor capable of more high-quality machining, especially on firearms, than in the USA, however.
Look at 1911s. Taurus and the cheaper Springfield Armory pistols under $800ish are made in Brazil. RIA and a number of others, made in the Philippines, are in the $4-600 range. US made guns start at what, $800 Ruger/Sig and go on up from there? ($1000 STI, $13-1400 Springfield TRP/EMP).
Are you really, honestly going to tell me that if a Springfield TRP, STI Trojan, or even a Sig were the same price (or within 10%ish) as a Taurus PT1911, that you'd buy the Taurus?
I wouldn't say that comparing the Croatian guns to American is that remarkable of a difference, but it's certainly enough that the M&P is, in my opinion, a better buy, <span style="font-style: italic">cetirus paribus</span>.
The XD and XDM are both very nice guns, but they're not as good a value as the M&P is. In a perfect world, I'd have all three. But since my $$$ is scarce, I picked what I think is the best value, and that's the M&P.
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Heres an idea... quit bitching at each other and answer the damn question. Nobody gives a flying F**K what you think about X brand being made in X country.
I have 2 XDs and soon another one. They put rounds right where I aim them. Good accuracy from them. I can shoot them better than Glocks. Just my experience. Havent shot an M&P yet. Would like too though.
Heres an idea... quit bitching at each other and answer the damn question. Nobody gives a flying F**K what you think about X brand being made in X country.
I have 2 XDs and soon another one. They put rounds right where I aim them. Good accuracy from them. I can shoot them better than Glocks. Just my experience. Havent shot an M&P yet. Would like too though.
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All about the same.
I think you can get triggers on XD's and M&P's to "feel" better. Or atleast I think so.
The 5.25 will get you the most sight radius which will help.
By the way glocks untill recent were not made in the US either.....
I think XD's are the better built (less broken parts)
I base this on my experience and not on industry stats.
All about the same.
I think you can get triggers on XD's and M&P's to "feel" better. Or atleast I think so.
The 5.25 will get you the most sight radius which will help.
By the way glocks untill recent were not made in the US either.....
I think XD's are the better built (less broken parts)
I base this on my experience and not on industry stats.
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Just in looking at the comments every one is qualified by "is the one I shoot better". I think measurable accuracy between different makes will end up being negligible. Go find a range that can rent them and try them all out. You'll figure out which one you naturally point the best.
FTR the polymer handgun I shoot most accurate is a Glock. I own a Sig 229 though because it handles better for me and I like it's construction and features better.
Just in looking at the comments every one is qualified by "is the one I shoot better". I think measurable accuracy between different makes will end up being negligible. Go find a range that can rent them and try them all out. You'll figure out which one you naturally point the best.
FTR the polymer handgun I shoot most accurate is a Glock. I own a Sig 229 though because it handles better for me and I like it's construction and features better.
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I have a gen II G19 that thinks it is a G34. I'd like to mod it but I'm afraid to change anything.
I have a gen II G19 that thinks it is a G34. I'd like to mod it but I'm afraid to change anything.
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I have a 17L that is very accurate; I used it in my first IDPA match a couple of weekends ago (it wasn't "legal" I guess, but they let you use anything the first time to get you into it I guess). I only lost time being apprehensive of breaking rules, taking time on my shots, and on my reloads --all my shots were perfect and about a couple inches apart on the longest shots, which weren't all that far to be honest. Still, I didn't do too bad and was 1st in "unclassed".
My wife may actually shoot the next one, she'll be using a J-frame revolver with regular speedloaders, and has little practice, but is doing for just that reason. That should be fun to watch.
But I've heard that XDM and M&P are real accurate too, so I suppose it would all come down to how it feels to you, which one you shoot best. What I mean, is that the inherent accuracy between those three particular pistols probably isn't as great as would be the fit to the individual firing it. Also, if you carry one or the other in a different style, the practice is directly related to the carry pistol. My .02 anyway.
I have a 17L that is very accurate; I used it in my first IDPA match a couple of weekends ago (it wasn't "legal" I guess, but they let you use anything the first time to get you into it I guess). I only lost time being apprehensive of breaking rules, taking time on my shots, and on my reloads --all my shots were perfect and about a couple inches apart on the longest shots, which weren't all that far to be honest. Still, I didn't do too bad and was 1st in "unclassed".
My wife may actually shoot the next one, she'll be using a J-frame revolver with regular speedloaders, and has little practice, but is doing for just that reason. That should be fun to watch.
But I've heard that XDM and M&P are real accurate too, so I suppose it would all come down to how it feels to you, which one you shoot best. What I mean, is that the inherent accuracy between those three particular pistols probably isn't as great as would be the fit to the individual firing it. Also, if you carry one or the other in a different style, the practice is directly related to the carry pistol. My .02 anyway.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All about the same.
I think you can get triggers on XD's and M&P's to "feel" better. Or atleast I think so.
The 5.25 will get you the most sight radius which will help.
By the way glocks untill recent were not made in the US either.....
I think XD's are the better built (less broken parts)
I base this on my experience and not on industry stats. </div></div>
If you Google Dan Burwell, you'll be able to download a .pdf that will give you instructions to DIY the M&P trigger. It improves the reset as well. It definitely works, but it is slightly time consuming as you need to go slow and refit all your parts to check the pull weight. You can also buy parts to do the same thing. I went from a very creepy avg. of around 7 lb. down to a short, tight 3.
I had the M&P full size 9 and it's one that I regret having to sell. 17+1 is nice to have and the factory mags work very well. It ate everything HP or ball right out of the box and never had an issue feeding. Accuracy for me two handed offhand and fairly close (12yd.) was about the same as I shoot everything else, 2 - 3".
I've only handled and dry fired a Glock 19, thought it had a good trigger and don't believe it had any work done to it. I've handled the XDs in shops but just thought the frame gets too long compared to the Glock and S&W for about the same capacity mags. You can DIY the M&P frame and stipple it yourself w/ a soldering iron. Maybe the others as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All about the same.
I think you can get triggers on XD's and M&P's to "feel" better. Or atleast I think so.
The 5.25 will get you the most sight radius which will help.
By the way glocks untill recent were not made in the US either.....
I think XD's are the better built (less broken parts)
I base this on my experience and not on industry stats. </div></div>
If you Google Dan Burwell, you'll be able to download a .pdf that will give you instructions to DIY the M&P trigger. It improves the reset as well. It definitely works, but it is slightly time consuming as you need to go slow and refit all your parts to check the pull weight. You can also buy parts to do the same thing. I went from a very creepy avg. of around 7 lb. down to a short, tight 3.
I had the M&P full size 9 and it's one that I regret having to sell. 17+1 is nice to have and the factory mags work very well. It ate everything HP or ball right out of the box and never had an issue feeding. Accuracy for me two handed offhand and fairly close (12yd.) was about the same as I shoot everything else, 2 - 3".
I've only handled and dry fired a Glock 19, thought it had a good trigger and don't believe it had any work done to it. I've handled the XDs in shops but just thought the frame gets too long compared to the Glock and S&W for about the same capacity mags. You can DIY the M&P frame and stipple it yourself w/ a soldering iron. Maybe the others as well.
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I would say either the Walther of Glock.
The 9mm M&P has documented accuracy issues which Bar-Sto has been working on for some time,.
I would say either the Walther of Glock.
The 9mm M&P has documented accuracy issues which Bar-Sto has been working on for some time,.
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I've got a Glock 19C 3rd gen. Out of the box it was great. 3.5 connector, comp springs, extended mag release and slide release it's even better. Soon to put nights sights on it. Owned a 17 and will soon own a 26 and 34. Point is I shoot almost 500rds a month or so through the glock last week my big caliber buddy brought over a M&P 9 full size took it out side and after a mag to get use to it my groups were the same as my Glock's. I like the M&P and I may own one soon but for now I'm stuck on Glock. You honestly can't go wrong with the M&P.
I've got a Glock 19C 3rd gen. Out of the box it was great. 3.5 connector, comp springs, extended mag release and slide release it's even better. Soon to put nights sights on it. Owned a 17 and will soon own a 26 and 34. Point is I shoot almost 500rds a month or so through the glock last week my big caliber buddy brought over a M&P 9 full size took it out side and after a mag to get use to it my groups were the same as my Glock's. I like the M&P and I may own one soon but for now I'm stuck on Glock. You honestly can't go wrong with the M&P.
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My bad out of the 3 weapons you chose I'd go with the 34 I believe it's the cheapest and its cheaper to modify. Alot of great stuff at glockstore.com
My bad out of the 3 weapons you chose I'd go with the 34 I believe it's the cheapest and its cheaper to modify. Alot of great stuff at glockstore.com
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