Rifle Scopes My common sense might have left the building.

[lostangel]

Keep in mind that I am completely new to long distance shooting. I ordered a 20 MOA base for my Rem 700 from Larue. It arrived yesterday, along with the usual swag from Mark.

I had assumed that the front would be higher than the rear (you know to gain 20moa of elevation) However, the base I got in is much higher in the rear.

Am I just stupid about mechanics of scope?

 

[Lindy]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

The front is <span style="font-style: italic">lower</span> than the rear.

By angling the front of the scope down, you have to raise the muzzle to point at a target. It's that which increases your ability to dial elevation - you're starting with the muzzle higher.

 

[flounderv2]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Edit.... Lindy beat me to it.

 

[psinclair]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Yes.....you have it bass ackwards....higher in in rear is correct.

Yep....I'm too slow....should have taken typing in high school....grin!

 

[enkry]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

really?? damn I didnt know that.

 

[lostangel]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Thanks for the info. There are some things I am truly dumb about.

My sons 7th grade math is another example. The boy can do work in his head that I can't do with my computer and the internet.

 

[dbateman]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

no the rear is supose to be higher than the frunt to give you your 20moa
by bring the crosshair down you are rasing point of impact
o.k i m to slow as well

 

[Lindy]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

A useful exercise is to point your optic at an object, and, while looking through the scope, dial a higher elevation on the scope. You'll note that the reticle descends with respect to the object you're viewing.

You can do the same exercise with windage. If you look through the scope while dialing left windage, you'll note that the reticle is moving to the right.

In both cases, the reticle is moving opposite to the desired point of impact change.

 

[ggmanning]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Always makes sense to me to think in terms of the sight pin on a bow.

 

[strick9]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

chase the arrow.

 

[alf]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STRICK9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">chase the arrow. </div></div>

I thought it's be the arrow....

 

[ggmanning]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

The arrow is but a figment of the imagination grasshopper...

 

[Lindy]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Tell that to George Custer.

 

[ggmanning]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

The single shot Spencers vs lever guns hurt him as much as the bows

 

[ARCOREY]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Always makes sense to me to think in terms of the sight pin on a bow. </div></div>

That's the only way it makes since to me too. Good old slow arrows match the way I think, LOL. It may be slow and indirect, but I'll get there eventually.

 

[ewoaf]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell that to George Custer.
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If Gen. G.A. Custer was killed with an arrow, then I'm the Queen of England.

 

[oneshot onekill]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The single shot Spencers vs lever guns hurt him as much as the bows

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Firearms lesson:
The Spencer IS a lever gun. Only difference is you have to cock the hammer as a seperate motion.

History lesson:
Custer's boys didn't have Spencers. Pretty sure they had Springfield Trapdoors which ARE single-shot.

 

[Lindy]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

I'm pretty sure that you're not the Queen of England, but you have a limited sense of humor, that's for sure.

Of course, if I lived in Thermopolis, I probably would be the same. Been there, ran away. Too cold in winter.

 

[Trigger Monkey]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Here are a couple of articles that I wrote about rings, bases, and scopes. I hope it helps to shed some light on what's going on inside.

Rings and Base Article

Riflescope Article

 

[ggmanning]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Point taken on Spencer vs Springfield. My point (with uanaccurate firearms reference) was Custer had much slower firearms in terms of rounds per minute than the Sioux. You know as well as I do lever gun is commonly used to describe Henrys, Winchesters, etc not the literal meaning having a lever. Custer would have still been outclassed Spencer or Springfield.

Anyway we were joking not checking references.

Always looking to learn

 

[Lindy]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Good articles, Trigger Monkey! I've bookmarked them for future reference. They'll save me a lot of explanations.

 

[ewoaf]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

getting back to the OP.....
the problem would once again be the NDN and not the arrow.

 

[oneshot onekill]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Point taken on Spencer vs Springfield. My point (with uanaccurate firearms reference) was Custer had much slower firearms in terms of rounds per minute than the Sioux. You know as well as I do lever gun is commonly used to describe Henrys, Winchesters, etc not the literal meaning having a lever. Custer would have still been outclassed Spencer or Springfield.

Anyway we were joking not checking references.

Always looking to learn

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I'm sorry... I couldn't help myself. You're right. I'm just an asshole most of the time! Don't mind me. My brain is full of useless knowledge and often it leaks!!! LOL!

 

[ggmanning]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

Not implying that all...just keeping the mood light! Its all in fun.....doesn't always translate on the internet.

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: My common sense might have left the building.

to the OP, man i though the same thing. i finally just accepted it. plus i couldnt mount the base the other way no matter what i thought.

and i thought we were supposed to be the ball? now we have to be the arrow?