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My initial AIAX review

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Gunny Sergeant
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Firstoff, I would like to offer a disclaimer that I am not any sort of expert, just a gun enthusiast with an expensive rifle habit, so please keep that in mind.

I received my new AIAX yesterday. I bought it from Paul Gonzalez at Trigger Time Gun Club in Colorado. Paul was great to work with when I purchased a Schmidt and Bender 5-25x56 a while ago, so I preferred to do business with him again. He was a pleasure to deal with this time as well, and I would recommend him to anyone.

Mine came through as all have- as a fully loaded model. It is a flat dark earth folder, with a quick adjust cheekpiece, quick adjust/target buttplate, and buttspike. Mine came through with the Bartlein 1 in 10 barrel with an SAS brake fitted. I had Paul pull the barrel off before shipping it to me.

Luckily, my spare barrel came back the day before. I had my factory 26" AIAW barrel cut back to 18.5", recrowned and rethreaded for my 18x1.5 SAS Ti Arbiter. I installed the barrel upon receiving the AX. It requires removing the front fore grip (2 screws) then the handguard (8 screws.) The barrel torques into the action using an AIAW action wrench and a barrel vise. The barrel fit exactly as it did on my AW- brass that was tight in my AW (.001 over SAAMI minimum headspace) was tight in the AX, and brass that had minimal resistance in my AW (SAAMI minimum) chambered the same in my AX. My go/no-go gauges will be here on Monday, but I am confident based on this brass test that the headspace is correct.

Getting into the review- to sum it up, the AX is an upgraded AW. Most of this review will draw direct comparisons to my AW because of this.

The action, bolt, and safety are all the same. The trigger internally is the same, but is adjustable fore and aft, an has a wider, serrated trigger shoe. My AW trigger was perfect out of the box, where my AX trigger was a little on the heavy side, enough that after substantial dry fire practice, my finger started to feel a bit fatigued. I lightened it up three full turns, adjusting the weight screw only, and now it is just a bit lighter than my AW.

Ergonomically, the rifle excels. It feels a lot like an AW, should feel very familiar to anyone with significant time on a chassis/AW/AE, but it is more comfortable for me, which is saying something, because I really like the way my AW fits. The two biggest improvements to the ergonomics to me-
1: The pistol grip is more comfortable on my thumb than my AW. The front of the grip is flat and feels very similar to my AW, the overall hand position is similar, but it doesn't push my thumb "down" like an AW stock. It never hindered my shooting, but did feel a bit awkward, and was more apparent when shooting offhand. The hand position is excellent on the AX.
2: I was able to set the scope up more to the rear on the AX, which helped set proper eye relief and length of pull. My AW is a dovetail, and using the dovetail mount in the rear position with my Hensoldt 4-16x56 ff pulled all the way to the rear, I had to remove one spacer from my ideal LOP, and still had to crane my head forward to get a correct site picture. Not so on the AX. I was able to get perfect head position and length of pull. Note- this will not be a bit deal for most shooters, as eye relief is not usually an issue on the AW.

The QA buttpad is nice, it is a lot handier than the spacer system, and allows the pad to be adjusted for height and angle. You can quickly make adjustments to LOP for different shooting positions, which would be impossible with the spacers. The QA cheekpiece is also nice.

One of the biggest selling points for me was the buttspike. I am a big fan- combining a buttspike with a small rear bag results in always having the right rear bag height. I carried three rear bags in my shooting bag when shooting my AW, in this case I only need a Tac Ball. This buttspike had ample range of motion, and also was a viable option by itself (no bag.)

The handguard system is also nice, and modular. The picatinny rail segments can be moved around or removed, as can the Harris bipod mount- allowing a further forward mount than on an AW.

As far as how it shoots- I can't comment on the Bartlein barrel as I haven't shot it, only my chopped UK barrel. As for the barreled action, it is for all intents an purposes an AW.

So, to sum it up- is it worth it? That is subjective. It is $8,000, which is a lot of money. I have read that option to option, it is only $300 more than an AW (with the Bartlein barrel/SAS brake another $300 option on top of that.) For $300 more than an AW, I think it is an upgrade. Less optioned models will be coming out further down the line, and they will cost less. For me, the biggest upgrades are the ergos and the buttspike, if my AW was a fully equipped folder with the Q/A options and buttspike I would probably feel that this is less of an upgrade. My AW is a 1.5 however, so this gun carries quite a few nice features I don't currently have.

Here is the only pic I have currently (I'll try to get more up later as time permits):

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Other sidenote- I'm not sure I care for the new mag/magwell setup. It is certainly taking some getting used to, and doesn't seem as intuitive as an AW where I can just slam the mag up in and be good to go. Only time will tell. The mag essentially appears to be an AW mag with a tab formed in the front by punching the sheetmetal forward.
 
Re: My initial AIAX review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cluebat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's your wife making for dinner? </div></div>

I bet the dog is wondering the same thing.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cluebat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's your wife making for dinner? </div></div>Coq au Vin.

It was delicious. Lucy (bulldog) liked it too.
 
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I was going to say Lucy likes the new rifle, what does Oscar think?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jbell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was going to say Lucy likes the new rifle, what does Oscar think? </div></div>He's too lazy to have an opinion.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cluebat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's your wife making for dinner? </div></div>

What's more funny( in a good way) is the fact that wife trusts him with this beasty rifle and her back partially turned to him!!!! She's just ho hum de dum cooking dinner as he's creating gun porn! LOVE IT!!!! BTW, my wife doesn't even flinch when I cycle a gun action around her anymore. Too funny

Beautiful rifle!! I hope it serves your needs well!

Cute pooch too!!

-G45
 
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Very nice write up. Would like to know more about trigger time with prolonged shooting session. Been thinking about it also. But I think I will wait until they come out with the 338LM that can be converted to 308 with a barrel and bolt drop in. Now that's worth the wait and money. JMHO.
 
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Very nice! The more I see the AX the more I start to rethink not upgrading from the AICS to the AX chassis on my new build.

I am digging it!
 
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Congratulations on the AX.

Thank you for the answering my query on the scope mount.

Look forward to seeing more of your reviews/comments after a few more rounds.

Cheers,
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice write up. Would like to know more about trigger time with prolonged shooting session. Been thinking about it also. But I think I will wait until they come out with the 338LM that can be converted to 308 with a barrel and bolt drop in. Now that's worth the wait and money. JMHO. </div></div>Yeah, I was pretty interested in that model too. From what Stacey said, there is no plan to produce that model for the civilian market (why I bought this) but you never know, things could change.

I'll let you know about extended sessions after today, I plan on putting some good time on it. I put 75 through it on Friday, should be good for another 75-100 today.
 
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Man that is a long fore arm rail! I was considering getting an AICX but does not look like it will work with my 18.5 inch bbl and my OPS Inc 12th model. No Big deal, back to the drawing board for me.

I will be in Portland Maine tomorrow, what time is dinner?

Zink
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zink14</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Man that is a long fore arm rail! I was considering getting an AICX but does not look like it will work with my 18.5 inch bbl and my OPS Inc 12th model. No Big deal, back to the drawing board for me.

I will be in Portland Maine tomorrow, what time is dinner?

Zink </div></div>They are planning on also offering a 13" and 10" handguard, so don't count it out yet.

I'm only an hour and fifteen or so above Portland, and I'm sure my wife would love to cook if you want to come. I get out at 7pm, you are more than welcome to join us for dinner.
 
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unfortunately I will be working to 10-11pm every night, or I would meet you for a beer. I think a 13" would be about perfect, wold leave about 3" of bbl between the rail and can.

Zink
 
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Awesome photos and review. A fine collection of rifles you must have. I've enjoyed reading your objective threads and comparisons.
 
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OK, so a little update-

another 95 rounds through the AX today (170 total now.) I am more confident that it was the right choice in rifles after spending more time on it. It is comfortable to shoot, and very easy to shoot.

Also had jbell run 20 rounds or so through it, his opinion mirrored mine.
 
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Awesome. I must admit i laughed my ass of when I saw the canine, and even more so when I could see your wife cooking away.

Nice write up.

Nice to also see Im not the only one taking up valuable bench space with guns whilst the mrs is cooking.
 
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Just another opnion, I shot with BM11 and had a chance to look the AX over and shoot it some. I hane never been able to get comfortable with the AW, however the AX feels like the AW it was just way easier to shoot. Its like what the AW should of been in my opnion. I was suprised how easy to shoot it is. I was shooting it as good as my TRG. It seems easier to handle than the AW (not so 2x4ish). The pistol grip fit my hand like it was made for it, I would say it was the best fitting grip of ANY stock I have ever shot and I have shot a few. I think the best thing about the rifle though are the quick adjust features of the stock, very nice! All in all if I had just spent that kind of money on a AX I dont think I would have been let down a bit, and they are not cheep. Very nice rifle!
 
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What about your non trigger hand ? On the AICS there is a lot more stock to place your "free" hand aginst or under but the AX appears to have less than an inch infront of the butt spike with which to control rear elevation (assuming you aren't shooting with the spike deployed or a rear bag). Is it harder to shoot unsupported at the rear than your AW ?

A few other quick q's if i may. Is the safety the same as on the AW and can the Atlas with AI spigot be easily converted to fit the AX ? Is the AI bipod fully compatable with the AX ?

Thx
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TJ.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about your non trigger hand ? On the AICS there is a lot more stock to place your "free" hand aginst or under but the AX appears to have less than an inch infront of the butt spike with which to control rear elevation (assuming you aren't shooting with the spike deployed or a rear bag). Is it harder to shoot unsupported at the rear than your AW ?

A few other quick q's if i may. Is the safety the same as on the AW and can the Atlas with AI spigot be easily converted to fit the AX ? Is the AI bipod fully compatable with the AX ?

Thx </div></div>The non trigger hand fits comfortably under the stock, either using the hook, which while small, feels more comfortable than any I have used, or in conjunction with the spike, which is the best I have used. I would say that it is easier to shoot unsupported, though you shouldn't have to- the spike is always there and it is super easy to use.

As for the atlas- you can take two hex keys out of the spigot mount and mount the bipod on to a lever mount. It is the same bipod, just different hardware. The lever can be bought separately. Larue sells one as an LT-171.

The AI bipod is not compatible, there is no spigot.

The safety is identical to an AW.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awesome. I must admit i laughed my ass of when I saw the canine, and even more so when I could see your wife cooking away.

Nice write up.

Nice to also see Im not the only one taking up valuable bench space with guns whilst the mrs is cooking. </div></div>Guns have kinda found a way into every part of the house at this point. She seems cool with it, haha.
 
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Thanks. So what bipod is AI supplying with this rifle or isn't it ?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TJ.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks. So what bipod is AI supplying with this rifle or isn't it ? </div></div>I'm not aware of any current contracts with this rifle, so there probably aren't any "deployment packages" floating around with AI supplied bipods. For what it's worth though, they do come with a movable/removable Harris adapter, and every AI stock picture I have seen has shown a Harris 6-9 on it.
 
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Thanks, just curious how they will package this for the military market. It would be odd if they didn't supply it with a bipod both from an operational and financial perspective.
 
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Mini update-

290 rounds through it as of yesterday (2/24/11.)

This gun keeps getting easier and easier to shoot well. I am liking it more and more. It feels very familiar, like an AW/AE/AICS, but even better.

More to follow.

-Bob
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like it would be very comfortable to shoot.

Have you shot it standing yet? </div></div>I have shot it kneeling. I have dry fired standing and kneeling, and it is comfortable. The quick adjust length of pull comes in really handy for alternate positions.

For what it's worth though, I am useless shooting offhand, but am practicing it for that reason.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sgj2025</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about the magwell? How do you like it?
</div></div>It was an adjustment. I practiced mag changes on my AW to the point where I could do them real fast without looking, and this one is a bit different. With the AX, you have to click the front end of the mag up in first, followed by the back for it to go smoothly, so it was a different set of muscle memory to train.

Now that I have it down, I really like it, it was just a matter of learning how to do it best.

For what it's worth, I have 4 AX mags, and I also have a good amount of snap caps. I integrate mag change practice in with my dry fire practice, to maximize my practice efficiency.
 
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That's a very nice rifle. To me it still looks like a spray power-washer
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, but it is a nice rifle.

I, too am interested in how it feels for positional work with a sling.
 
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The magazine difference will be easily overcome like "bm11" stated with the time and practice. It is very nice and especially on the .338 models, that is truly where the forward locking addition pays off big.

"Graham" ok Mr, I am watching you now and enough with the, what is this "spay power-washer" comment Mr? LOL!

To me the AX seems to be more ergo friendly to the first time handlers and for the AW drivers, easily to adapt to as well. Some will fight the change from the traditional "thumbhole" to the new "pistol grip", but most are really liking it. I believe it is as well easier to sling, carry and with the addition of the QD Flush Cups, priceless for many.
 
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If it was a little less expensive, I'd be able to afford one. Love the way it looks!
 
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Soon more will be available and they will be with less options which will lower the price point obviously. The AX will be available with the standard options same as the AW such as:
-adjustable cheek piece
-standard butt with adjustable target butt plate
-QA features
-Spike now or later

So save the lunch money, it is coming!
 
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Nice review. Thanks for posting it. Only going to make my choice between this and an AIAW that much harder.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: damcv62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice review. Thanks for posting it. Only going to make my choice between this and an AIAW that much harder. </div></div>Well, I've got 364 rounds through it now, and the more I shoot it, the more I'm sure it was a good upgrade over an AIAW. I have never been this comfortable behind a rifle.

My advise is this- if money is no object, get the AX. If you can get an AW configured the way you want for considerably less and the difference allows you to shoot more, then get the AW, it is a fantastic rifle.
 
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Update today-

First opportunity to really stretch the AIAX's legs today. Max range was 975. Shooting in a foot of snow at times, using a show shoe as a platform for the front bipod.

It was very easy to get comfortable in terrain, and very easy to spot hits, except at 975. There was a ton of mirage coming off the snow, and enough cover between us and the target so we couldn't clearly hear the hits at that range.

All in all, I am liking this rifle more and more all the time. ~450 round count.
 
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Stacey, Can the rifles be seen and handled in Fredricksburg? I'm in Virginia.
 
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Well, since I am not a fan of Flat Dark Earth, and it was the only color available, I decided to change things up a bit:

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