Name That Muzzle Brake

[.50 Cal Cow]

Long story short. After much fuss and numerous trips back to Remington my third and will be the last trip back Remington realized they needed to replace the barrel on my Sendero. Only hang up being that they needed my approval to do so with the understanding that they would not replace the muzzle brake that was installed onto the new barrel. Well no problem I couldn't obviously do anything with it the condition that it was anyways so approval granted. (Yes I learned my lesson that I should've thoroughly tested this thing out first before making the modification but in my defense I did not foresee such problems with something I paid as much money as I did for).

They told me that they would ship my muzzle brake back with the gun. The muzzle brake that I had was the Hollands Radial Discharge and it was very effective and I'm a fan. Well fast forward to today I receive the rifle back as well as this in the picture below.

Question I'm throwing out there is does anyone have any idea what kind of brake this is?

I am unsure if they mixed it up with someone elses as the bore on it seems incredibly oversized since I was able to drop a .338 round right through with no friction. My Sendero is a 300 win mag so not necessarily that close. Not too mention all the residue.

I really wanted my Holland's back and I don't feel like spending another 150 for a new one but having no idea what kind this is I am unsure if it will be as effective. Anyone have any guesses and if so can tell me this is a good brake?

 

[LongArm]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

ops inc??

 

[ORD]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

Yep...Ops Inc. See here:

http://www.opsinc.us/muzzle-brakes.html

They are very effective brakes, BUT...if it isn't what you want on your rifle in the end and you believe that the size is incorrect should you even want to use it, get with the geniuses at Remington CS, explain the mix-up and request that they make it right for you. (I can tell you that Ops makes literally 20_ different caliber/thread pitch variations on that brake, so it is possible it may NOT be correct for your 300WM sendero).

 

[.50 Cal Cow]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LongArm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ops inc?? </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep...Ops Inc. See here:

http://www.opsinc.us/muzzle-brakes.html

They are very effective brakes, BUT...if it isn't what you want on your rifle in the end and you believe that the size is incorrect should you even want to use it, get with the geniuses at Remington CS, explain the mix-up and request that they make it right for you. (I can tell you that Ops makes literally 20_ different caliber/thread pitch variations on that brake, so it is possible it may NOT be correct for your 300WM sendero). </div></div>

Thanks all that is was it is definitely what it appears to be.

After calling Remington to inquire the answer I received back is that they could not get the original one off so they sent me a brake that they use. CS guy was unsure of who made it but I'm pretty certain it is the Ops Inc. since I spec'd it all out and got .970 OD and 5/8" with 24TPI pitch which directly lines up with what they offer. I called and left a message with these guys to find out what they open their's up to for the .30 caliber.

Am I wrong in thinking that .40 at the end is a little oversized for a .30 caliber bullet or is this standard? I never fully measured the Hollands but it did not seem that much.

 

[ORD]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

Interesting...was your Hollands permanently attached? JB Welded/Super-loctited? Still sounds fishy to me, but then again, they did send you a $125 brake. If you want a different brake, then why not sell the Ops or see if Remington will comp you the price of the brake instead of one you don't want to use? Might be worth a try, but I doubt it...you'd probably be better off just selling the Ops outright and buying what you want with the proceeds.

As for sizing...that sounds a little on the large side, but not terribly so. Badger and other muzzle brake mfgs recommend a MINIMUM of 0.020" over bullet diameter. I think I recall someone from Ops commenting at one time that their brakes are sized 0.035" over bore diameter. Other mfgs go a much as 0.06" over from my own personal observations. If your brake truly has an opening of 0.4", then that's +0.06" or so over Ops starting point for opening their brakes up, but they note that they can be opened further if need be or desired. That size still shouldn't be enough to harm the effectiveness of the brake much (if at all).

Just be sure that whomever you take the barreled action to for threading has the brake too as it will need to be properly timed (if you keep the Ops unit instead of going back to the Holland/Vais or similar design).

 

[rukwikenuf]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

if you liked the other brake, i'd ask Big Green to either find the damn thing or buy one for you. that brake that you have is OBVIOUSLY not the one you wanted (regardless of whether or not you like it after the fact).

Remington should make this good

 

[.50 Cal Cow]

Re: Name That Muzzle Brake

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting...was your Hollands permanently attached? JB Welded/Super-loctited? Still sounds fishy to me, but then again, they did send you a $125 brake. If you want a different brake, then why not sell the Ops or see if Remington will comp you the price of the brake instead of one you don't want to use? Might be worth a try, but I doubt it...you'd probably be better off just selling the Ops outright and buying what you want with the proceeds.

As for sizing...that sounds a little on the large side, but not terribly so. Badger and other muzzle brake mfgs recommend a MINIMUM of 0.020" over bullet diameter. I think I recall someone from Ops commenting at one time that their brakes are sized 0.035" over bore diameter. Other mfgs go a much as 0.06" over from my own personal observations. If your brake truly has an opening of 0.4", then that's +0.06" or so over Ops starting point for opening their brakes up, but they note that they can be opened further if need be or desired. That size still shouldn't be enough to harm the effectiveness of the brake much (if at all).

Just be sure that whomever you take the barreled action to for threading has the brake too as it will need to be properly timed (if you keep the Ops unit instead of going back to the Holland/Vais or similar design). </div></div>

Thanks much for the input. That is good knowledge. I can't say for sure how it was attached but I recall the smith telling me "it was a real bitch to get on" but I planned to use another smith this next go round anyways.

As too contacting Remington back it's no longer worth my time on the fight. I've had this rifle back to them three times and everytime you call you just get a CS rep, whom despite how helpful or unhelpful they are, are still not connected to the actual facility that has had anything to do with what was done. For my first experience on a Remington rifle I hate to say after this it will be my last which is a shame as seems like so many other Sendero's out there that have been good to their owners.

If I had the post count to put it up for sale I'd probably just do that. It's going to be awhile before it matters anyways since I have some more testing in this new barrel before I even pay money to do this work. I'm not loyal to any one brand as long as it works. I may just use it or suck it up and buy another Hollands as I know it worked very well and wait around until I get enough posts to throw it up for sale.

Thanks guys for the input.