Neck Trimmer

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Do you mean neck turner or case length trimmer?

Neck turner, best one is the pumpkin.

Trimmer, best one is the Giraud.
 

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I'm sorry I did not ask correct. Yes a neck turner. When you say pumpkin, is this the rcbs one? Does this feed as you turn? Is there a good electric? The hand operated one's seems tiedius.
 

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No, when I say Pumpkin, I mean the Don Neilsen Pumpkin.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek079.html

As for doing it by hand or powered, all you need to add to the pumpkin to turn necks in 5-6 seconds per case is these 2 cheap items and a cordless drill.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=352653

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=174316


in this thread below, you will see my posts and some vids that how to turn necks with a drill.

http://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1851576#Post1851576
 

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The pumpkin turner is called the "Nielson Neck Turner." Everyone calls it the pumpkin turner. It is available from Bruno Shooter's Supply for $200. You will also need the expander die and mandrel. It comes with one mandrel and costs $50.

It is tough to find on the www.brunoshooters.com website. Just go to the website, do a search on Nielson, and it comes up. I was never able to find it through the standard navigation. You will find out all about the pumpkin by searching for "pumpkin" on the 6mmbr forums as well as the benchrest.com forums.
 

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Robert W. Hart & Son offers a fantastic neck turner with a MIC attachment. Check out benchrest.com they will have it all.
 

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Kelbly's is the distributer for the "Pumpkin".

http://www.kelbly.com/

I have a total of 4 different neck turning tools. One I made. Two different styles from Sinclair's, (one has an indicator on it of adjustment.) The last one I bough in 2002 is the Pumpkin turner. I have found that when combined with the carbide mandrel and a 1/2" KEYLESS cordless 18 volt drill, it is by all means the best I have ever used. The carbide mandrel will not heat up as bad when lubricated correctly. Most other mandrels heat up a lot and very quickly. The 1/2" drill keyless chuck will hold 308 and 30-06 with ease. But belted cases like the 300 WinMag don't work too well. At least in the DeWalt I have. I also have a 5/8" drill. I have thought about using it for the 300 WinMag cases. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
 

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I looked at both, and I myself think the K&M looks sweet when used with a drill. Nice shinny neck, not all knurled up. I watched the video on youtube. I might just have to go with it.
 

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While the K&M is a good unit, it doesnt compare to the Pumpkin. the ease of adjustability on the pumpkin puts it in a whole different class.
 

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I would rather trim with power. I watched the youtube video with the K&M used with a lee chuck, It produced a very nice neck turn.
I liked it alot. I will continue to research turners. It may take me weeks till I research them enough before I buy.
 

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you can use a drill with any neck turner, beats the shit out of turning by hand!
 

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I use a Forester neck turner.

Even though it is a little slow by hand, you can hook a drill to it.

I prefer slow an easy by hand. How 'bout ya'll?
 

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Slow yes, but easy? its anything but easy when you have 200 cases to do.
 

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I use a cordless drill/driver with my K&M neck turner for my BMG brass...works great.

I've heard a cordless is better than a drill press as a press will/can turn it to fast.

~Mike
 

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Does K&M still use a steel cutter? The carbide turning mandrel and cutter were selling points for the pumpkin for me. I read somewhere that the pumpkin is less susceptible to heat changing the cutting depth. I don't remember where I read that, though.

The solution was to toss the turner in some ice while changing out the cases in the screwdriver. The K&M is certainly a lot cheaper.
 

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The ones that I have are with HSS cutters.

You can easily take those out and resharpen to fit your neck angle. Their mandrels used to be available with or without cutting edge. I get the ones with the cutting edge so that it cuts the doughnut on the inside as you are turning the outside. Of course, you can back out the cutter and run the cutting mandrel if you just want to remove the doughnuts when they form.
 

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Most all of them will do a good job.The main difference between the cheapest and most expensive is the way they adjust.The more expensive ones are eaiser to get the neck thickness you want and eaiser to return to the same meausurement.The Pumkin uses a different design than the others.A cordless screwdriver works well with a set of Sinclair drivers,and is slow enough that nothing gets hot.I usually buy another tool when I get a new cartrige that requires turning,and leave it set for that cut. Pete
 

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Forster Products outside neck turner:
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I used the K&M neck turners for years and they are good neck turners but I recently bought a Nielson Pumpkin and then 2 more and sold my K&M's. The Pumpkin is way easier to set up and the cutter is wider and makes a smoother cut.
 

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Just Ordered everything from K&M for my .223 and .308, I will post what I think of it in a few days. I talked to one of there techs today, and was very nice and very helpful. He told me that if I have any problem, they will take care of it right away and free of charge. He told me how to do the process and also suggested the carbide if you have or doughnuts. And also to use it on virgen brass.
 

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Well, I got the K&M turner in today, And I must say, WOW. Great tool. I turned about 20 pieces today of .223 and was amazed. I didnt try with the cordless drill, only by hand, but still came out great.
Now the question is, will they now help tighten up the groups?
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: furtaker_.223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now the question is, will they now help tighten up the groups? </div></div>

No, for that you need to tighten up the nut behind the stock. j/k


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You want to knock off 70-80% of the high spots for a no neck turn chamber.
 

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Not stupid at all. A standard (aka no neck turn) chamber is just that, a standard chamber with enough neck clearance to run brass right out of the bag/box without neck turning.

A neck turn chamber is designed for brass neckturned to a specific thickness. People do this for a couple of reasons. First, they feel that factory brass has too much brass in the neck area, so they turn the necks to their liking. since they neck is thinner now, a standard neck chamber would be too large for their liking, so they go with a neck turn chamber 1-3 thousands over what a loaded round measures.

Hope that makes sense.