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Need some legal advice

rookie75

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Are there any lawyers here or do you guys know some lawyers that could help me out.

I received a letter couple of days ago from a law firm Dunlap, Grubb & Weaver, PLLC. for illegal downloading the Hurt Locker.

Any advice that you guys give me will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Someone got your ip address off your wireless router because it was not password protected, and there is no law that says you have to password protect it. That's your story and stick to it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldgrayone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone got your ip address off your wireless router because it was not password protected, and there is no law that says you have to password protect it. That's your story and stick to it. </div></div>

Little known fact but congress passed a law requiring any entity with an internal network (Private IP's) to maintain router logs.

If you have a wireless router you have an internal network.

It is a fact and they would call upon those logs to verify your claim.

Best defense is to see an attorney, otherwise it may be a cease and decist letter - "My 13 year old did it, I reprimanded him, deleted the movie and we will go purchase a copy of it just to satisfy all involved"....

They may buy that....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rookie75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there any lawyers here or do you guys know some lawyers that could help me out.

I received a letter couple of days ago from a law firm Dunlap, Grubb & Weaver, PLLC. for illegal downloading the Hurt Locker.

Any advice that you guys give me will be greatly appreciated. </div></div>

Oh you're fucked. I just read all about this case. They dropped charges on ~25,000 John Does and went after ~2,200 people that they felt they had a good case against. Here's one of the stories I read about it. Looks like the studio only wants $1000 to settle though so that's probably cheaper than hiring an attorney.

Below are the stories and here's a quote:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The studio that produced The Hurt Locker sued 24,583 unnamed people for illegally downloading the film. Now more than 21,000 of those John Does can breathe a little easier because the studio has dismissed them from the suit, leaving more than 2,300 in its sights.</div></div>


http://consumerist.com/2011/10/studio-di...urt-locker.html

And

http://torrentfreak.com/90-of-defendants-dismissed-from-record-breaking-bittorrent-lawsuit-110930/



Side note: How would a company know who used a specific IP? (Articlight? sorry I know jack shit about this stuff)
 
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Let that be a lesson learned. Only download movies when your at larger hotels. At least that is what I was told
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Seriously, a guy at work had the internet provider cut off his connection because "someone" downloaded some Disney movie. He told them his router wasn't secure (or didn't know what they meant by it). They told him that is his only free pass, otherwise it was a $250 fine.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rookie75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there any lawyers here or do you guys know some lawyers that could help me out.

I received a letter couple of days ago from a law firm Dunlap, Grubb & Weaver, PLLC. for illegal downloading the Hurt Locker.

Any advice that you guys give me will be greatly appreciated. </div></div>
The real question is, did you steal it, or did you not? If you didn't steal it, fight it.
 
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Sorry here is the letter that I received






Copyright Infringement of the Hurt Locker – Settlement Purposes Only not Admissible under FRE 408
United States District Court for the District of Columbia
Plaintiff Voltage Pictures, LLC

Our law firm has filed a Federal copyright infringement lawsuit in the U. S. District Court for the District of Columbia on behalf of our client, Voltage Pictures, LLC. The suit was filed against Doe Defendants. We subsequently obtained identifying contact information for many of these Defendants from their ISP. Your contact information was supplied to us by your ISP as one of the individuals who has illegally obtained or shared our client’s copyrighted motion pictures through a peer-to-peer network (Gnutella, BitTorrent etc.). We are sending you this letter as a courtesy before we take more formal legal action, which could include our adding you as named Defendant to this lawsuit in your home jurisdiction.

According to our records, you have place a media file that contains the copyright-protected film content for our client’s motion pictures entitled The Hurt Locker in a shared folder location enabling others to download copies of this content. In addition, we have evidence that the P2P client software that you used to obtain or share film was Torrent 1.8.4.0 and that your file hash factor (a mathematical function through which a file can be identified with certainty) was BtiH: S73QC2TQWV373JFFB2JSIT6BJ7C35ALV. We also have obtained the file name of the movie, the file size and the GUID, all corresponding to an IS address that was assigned to your ISP account at the time the infringing activity occurred.

Copyright infringement (in this case obtaining a film without paying for it or sharing a film with others who have not paid for it) is a very serious problem for the entertainment industry. The law provides protection for copyright owners through the Federal copyright statute found at 17 U.S.C. SS 501-506, which allows a copyright owner to impound infringing material, recover attorney’s fee, and seek damages of &750 - $150,000 per work, depending on the circumstances surrounding the infringement.

Given this compelling information establishing that you have infringed on our client’s copyright, we have nevertheless prepared an offer to enable our client, the copyright holder, to recoup the damages incurred and defray the cost of preventing this type of activity in the future.

In exchange for our client’s giving you a release of legal claims that will eliminate our need to name you as a Defendant in a lawsuit, our firm is authorized to accept the sum of $2,900 as full settlement for these claims. This offer will expire at 5pm EST on October 18, 2011. Thereafter, our client will accept no less than the sum of $3,900 to settle this matter, but this increased settlement offer will expire on November 1, 2011. However, as a further condition of this release, you must remove the file from the shared folder or location where our client’s film can be shred or copied within three days of paying a settlement. If you have chosen not to settle by November 1, 2011, we may formally add you to the list of Defendants to be named to a lawsuit.

You may pay the settlement amount by a check mailed to our address shown in the top right corner of this letter (include the signed Conditional Release & Settlement Agreement with the payment, available for printing at www.copyrightsettlement.info); or by credit card on our online settlement payment site, also located at www.copyrightsettlement.ifno. Once we have processed the settlement, we will return to you a confirmation by email that your payment has been processed and that you will not be named to a lawsuit.

We look forward to resolving this without further action on our part, however if you do not comply with the above requests we may be forced to name you as a Defendant to a lawsuit and proceed directly against you on behalf of our client. If forced to do so, our client will be seeking to recover the maximum amount of damages provide under the Copyright Act for copyright infringement, i.e. $30,000 for non-willing infringement and $150,000 for willful infringement, plus attorneys; fee and cost of litigation.

Please consider this letter to constitute formal notice that until and unless we are able to settle our client’s claim with you, we demand that you not delete any media files from your computer. If, in the course of litigation, it is established that you delete media files after being on notice of our client’s claims, our client will add spoliation of evidence claim against you. Be advised that if we were to prevail on this additional claim, our client will be seeking an award of monetary sanctions, evidentiary sanctions and/ or reasonable attorneys’ fee.

Please understand that we are not your attorneys and that we represent a party that is asserting a legal claim against you. We strongly encourage you to consult with an attorney to review your rights and risk exposure in connection with this matter. We thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter, and we look forward to resolving our client’s claim against you in an amicable fashion, through settlement.

Dunlap, Grubb, & Weaver, PLLC
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rookie75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry here is the letter that I received






Copyright Infringement of the Hurt Locker &#150; Settlement Purposes Only not Admissible under FRE 408
United States District Court for the District of Columbia
Plaintiff Voltage Pictures, LLC

Our law firm has filed a Federal copyright infringement lawsuit in the U. S. District Court for the District of Columbia on behalf of our client, Voltage Pictures, LLC. The suit was filed against Doe Defendants. We subsequently obtained identifying contact information for many of these Defendants from their ISP. Your contact information was supplied to us by your ISP as one of the individuals who has illegally obtained or shared our client&#146;s copyrighted motion pictures through a peer-to-peer network (Gnutella, BitTorrent etc.). We are sending you this letter as a courtesy before we take more formal legal action, which could include our adding you as named Defendant to this lawsuit in your home jurisdiction.

According to our records, you have place a media file that contains the copyright-protected film content for our client&#146;s motion pictures entitled The Hurt Locker in a shared folder location enabling others to download copies of this content. In addition, we have evidence that the P2P client software that you used to obtain or share film was Torrent 1.8.4.0 and that your file hash factor (a mathematical function through which a file can be identified with certainty) was BtiH: S73QC2TQWV373JFFB2JSIT6BJ7C35ALV. We also have obtained the file name of the movie, the file size and the GUID, all corresponding to an IS address that was assigned to your ISP account at the time the infringing activity occurred.

Copyright infringement (in this case obtaining a film without paying for it or sharing a film with others who have not paid for it) is a very serious problem for the entertainment industry. The law provides protection for copyright owners through the Federal copyright statute found at 17 U.S.C. SS 501-506, which allows a copyright owner to impound infringing material, recover attorney&#146;s fee, and seek damages of &750 - $150,000 per work, depending on the circumstances surrounding the infringement.

Given this compelling information establishing that you have infringed on our client&#146;s copyright, we have nevertheless prepared an offer to enable our client, the copyright holder, to recoup the damages incurred and defray the cost of preventing this type of activity in the future.

In exchange for our client&#146;s giving you a release of legal claims that will eliminate our need to name you as a Defendant in a lawsuit, our firm is authorized to accept the sum of $2,900 as full settlement for these claims. This offer will expire at 5pm EST on October 18, 2011. Thereafter, our client will accept no less than the sum of $3,900 to settle this matter, but this increased settlement offer will expire on November 1, 2011. However, as a further condition of this release, you must remove the file from the shared folder or location where our client&#146;s film can be shred or copied within three days of paying a settlement. If you have chosen not to settle by November 1, 2011, we may formally add you to the list of Defendants to be named to a lawsuit.

You may pay the settlement amount by a check mailed to our address shown in the top right corner of this letter (include the signed Conditional Release & Settlement Agreement with the payment, available for printing at www.copyrightsettlement.info); or by credit card on our online settlement payment site, also located at www.copyrightsettlement.ifno. Once we have processed the settlement, we will return to you a confirmation by email that your payment has been processed and that you will not be named to a lawsuit.

We look forward to resolving this without further action on our part, however if you do not comply with the above requests we may be forced to name you as a Defendant to a lawsuit and proceed directly against you on behalf of our client. If forced to do so, our client will be seeking to recover the maximum amount of damages provide under the Copyright Act for copyright infringement, i.e. $30,000 for non-willing infringement and $150,000 for willful infringement, plus attorneys; fee and cost of litigation.

Please consider this letter to constitute formal notice that until and unless we are able to settle our client&#146;s claim with you, we demand that you not delete any media files from your computer. If, in the course of litigation, it is established that you delete media files after being on notice of our client&#146;s claims, our client will add spoliation of evidence claim against you. Be advised that if we were to prevail on this additional claim, our client will be seeking an award of monetary sanctions, evidentiary sanctions and/ or reasonable attorneys&#146; fee.

Please understand that we are not your attorneys and that we represent a party that is asserting a legal claim against you. We strongly encourage you to consult with an attorney to review your rights and risk exposure in connection with this matter. We thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter, and we look forward to resolving our client&#146;s claim against you in an amicable fashion, through settlement.

Dunlap, Grubb, & Weaver, PLLC
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So they have my IP Address and the date and time of the alleged infringement.
 
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Was it a certified letter? Could this be a scam?
If it isn't you may try to deal with them for less money or tell them it costs a grand to do a BK so they can take their choice.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Then, power off your router, hold the reset button in and repower it up.

Now go into the settings of your router, and change your MAC address to something else (You can do this).
This may not matter but will keep them from monitoring you - and also disable ICMP REQUEST on those settings - you'll find them in there...</div></div>

A new router would do the same thing right?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If your name and your IP are not tied together on the original file complaint, you file a motion to quash it and be done with it.

They are required to identify you, and by doing that violates your privacy.

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Arctic good research!

It looks like the actual suit does identify everybody by name and they no doubt got the name by its association with the IPs given by the ISP. I'm a little confused on why you say that it violates his privacy and even if it did I don't see how doing so would nullify the lawsuit?
 
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I know this is crazy, but you could own up to stealing copyrighted materials from the internet and pay the fine. Besides, the "Hurt Locker" was an OK movie, but I saw it on Netflix. Definately not something that I want to pay more than a movie ticket for.

It's just too bad that this letter wasn't from the porn industry telling us about all of the porn that you have been downloading and sharing.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was it a certified letter? Could this be a scam?
If it isn't you may try to deal with them for less money or tell them it costs a grand to do a BK so they can take their choice.</div></div> That is the thing the letter never came in as certified letter?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did they state your IP address in your letter?

I really think you should read this, 119 people filed to quash the motion because their information is not revealed and they deny it.

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/dis...873/142359/150/


Then, power off your router, hold the reset button in and repower it up.

Now go into the settings of your router, and change your MAC address to something else (You can do this).
This may not matter but will keep them from monitoring you - and also disable ICMP REQUEST on those settings - you'll find them in there...

This will force a new IP address on your router.

File a claim stating they did not identify your IP address - just saying they have it is NOT good enough.

There are so many people fighting this right now BECAUSE the movie maker did not identify them, and they deny even having the software on their computer.</div></div> On the letter that they send me, they have an IP Address as 71.97.238.155, but I do not know how to tell if this is my IP Address. But in March of this year I had to upgrade my computer where I change everything in my computer(motheboard, hard drive, ect.). If I did that would my IP Address be change because I had to reformate my computer anyway.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldgrayone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone got your ip address off your wireless router because it was not password protected, and there is no law that says you have to password protect it. That's your story and stick to it. </div></div>

I am not a lawyer, but I am a Cisco Certified Network Associate, and net+ cert.

Open your router up if it is not already! Your wireless router was not protected and it did not have a WPA2 password, to secure your wireless connection.

Do not admit to it. If you don't admit to downloading it, they can't prove you actually downloaded it. Someone must have been using your internet connection since it wasn't protected
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They traced your IP address, but they must prove you where the one that actually downloaded it, and they can not do that without a reasonable doubt unless you admit to it. That's how most of these cases work.

They had to tie your ip address to your name, which is impossible unless they went to your service provider, and they gave the information which violated your privacy. The service provider can not release the info without a court order.

Just sit and wait for a certified letter or court date. Don't do anything. You don't need a lawyer until they serve you.

Your router was not password protected and someone else could have been using your internet connection. So it can not be proven that it was you. Do not admit, that is the only way they can get you.

Oh and format your hard drive using digital shredding software if you want to completely eliminate all traces of data that you have downloaded. Google The Gutmann Method.

Oh and have this thread erased. I would ask a mod to erase the entire thing if I where you. PM sent. delete it after reading.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rookie75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the letter that they send me, they have an IP Address as 71.97.238.155, but I do not know how to tell if this is my IP Address. But in March of this year I had to upgrade my computer where I change everything in my computer(motheboard, hard drive, ect.). If I did that would my IP Address be change because I had to reformate my computer anyway.
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That would be the assigned IP address of your broadband router during the time in question, not of your computer.
 
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Buy a copy of the DVD. You own it and have rights to a digital copy as backup. Remit a reciept of it to the lawfirm and tell them to pound sand.

Why did you / someone else dload that PoS?

I am not a lawyer.
 
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Oh and format your hard drive using digital shredding software if you want to completely eliminate all traces of data that you have downloaded. Google The Gutmann Method.
 
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Rookie, you're getting some truly bad advice here. If the advice given in this thread actually worked than you wouldn't see multimillion dollar judgments against people such as yourself. Changing anything on your computer is idiotic and a Hollywood idea of how your case is going to go down. The letter is real and it's not a scam, they're trying to offer you a settlement and there is no reason that they would need to send it certified mail because you either take it or you don't. Their next step is to hire a local attorney to sue you (you'll get served in person) and they sound pretty serious about it so I bet they will. So you better get on the phone and <span style="font-weight: bold">get yourself an attorney on retainer</span>, it's real easy just get on the phone feel out a few attorneys and then go meet one or two and discuss the merits of the case and give them a retainer, probably a one/few thousand. Brace yourself because you're going to end up paying for this no matter how you slice it be it for an attorney, a settlement or probably both. There is established precedent working in their favor. Lastly follow Graham's (what is it 3rd?) 3rd rule: <span style="color: #FF0000">Don't ask/take legal advice from the internet. </span>
 
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What I find amazing-the number of people that don't mind stealing! Those that would advise you on how not to get caught stealing, and those that would advise you on how to get out of getting caught stealing. If you are in fact a theif, pay up, if not fight it all the way. I wonder how many of these guys with advice on how to "get away" with stealing would be so calm about it, if something of theirs was stolen.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paw print</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I find amazing-the number of people that don't mind stealing! Those that would advise you on how not to get caught stealing, and those that would advise you on how to get out of getting caught stealing. If you are in fact a theif, pay up, if not fight it all the way. I wonder how many of these guys with advice on how to "get away" with stealing would be so calm about it, if something of theirs was stolen. </div></div>

I would not advise anyone to steal. I have testified as an expert witness on a case involving downloading copyright content. They can not prove it is you if you have a wireless access point. All I said on the stand under oath is that it is possible for someone to use another persons wireless access point to download the content in question, and that it is possible that the defendant did not download the content.

The only proof they would have that you downloaded the content is if they search your home with a warrant and take the hard drive or dvd that the content is on, (hint get rid of it if you did it!, and shame on you, maybe you will learn a lesson LOL), or if they scare you in to admitting it by showing you the ip address that it came from. The IP address is not enough proof, because it cannot prove who downloaded the content. I just shows it came through the access point. Do not respond to their letter, until you are served, then it would be time to get a lawyer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rookie, you're getting some truly bad advice here. If the advice given in this thread actually worked than you wouldn't see multimillion dollar judgments against people such as yourself. Changing anything on your computer is idiotic and a Hollywood idea of how your case is going to go down. The letter is real and it's not a scam, they're trying to offer you a settlement and there is no reason that they would need to send it certified mail because you either take it or you don't. Their next step is to hire a local attorney to sue you (you'll get served in person) and they sound pretty serious about it so I bet they will. So you better get on the phone and <span style="font-weight: bold">get yourself an attorney on retainer</span>, it's real easy just get on the phone feel out a few attorneys and then go meet one or two and discuss the merits of the case and give them a retainer, probably a one/few thousand. Brace yourself because you're going to end up paying for this no matter how you slice it be it for an attorney, a settlement or probably both. There is established precedent working in their favor. Lastly follow Graham's (what is it 3rd?) 3rd rule: Don't ask/take legal advice from the internet. </div></div>

The ones involved in those judgments where scared into admitting they downloaded the content, or hard evidence was found. From what it sounds like, there is no hard evidence to prove he downloaded the content. He is better to wait it out to see if he will be served, and then get a lawyer. Take it to court, don't settle. They can't prove it.
 
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Keep in mind also, that this is a civil case, not a criminal one.

Criminal cases require 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

Civil cases require only a 'preponderence of the evidence', which it would appear, they have.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Civil cases require only a 'preponderence of the evidence', which it would appear, they have. </div></div>

You're absolutely correct.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep in mind also, that this is a civil case, not a criminal one.

Criminal cases require 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

Civil cases require only a 'preponderence of the evidence', which it would appear, they have. </div></div>

That is a good point SniperCJ! I would still have to argue that there is no evidence that the defendant downloaded the content, and see where it goes from there.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rookie, you're getting some truly bad advice here. If the advice given in this thread actually worked than you wouldn't see multimillion dollar judgments against people such as yourself. Changing anything on your computer is idiotic and a Hollywood idea of how your case is going to go down. The letter is real and it's not a scam, they're trying to offer you a settlement and there is no reason that they would need to send it certified mail because you either take it or you don't. Their next step is to hire a local attorney to sue you (you'll get served in person) and they sound pretty serious about it so I bet they will. So you better get on the phone and <span style="font-weight: bold">get yourself an attorney on retainer</span>, it's real easy just get on the phone feel out a few attorneys and then go meet one or two and discuss the merits of the case and give them a retainer, probably a one/few thousand. Brace yourself because you're going to end up paying for this no matter how you slice it be it for an attorney, a settlement or probably both. There is established precedent working in their favor. Lastly follow Graham's (what is it 3rd?) 3rd rule: Don't ask/take legal advice from the internet. </div></div>

The ones involved in those judgments where scared into admitting they downloaded the content, or hard evidence was found. From what it sounds like, there is no hard evidence to prove he downloaded the content. He is better to wait it out to see if he will be served, and then get a lawyer. Take it to court, don't settle. They can't prove it. </div></div>

You have a very warped Hollywood-like vision of how cases like this have worked in the past. Like I said, there is sufficient precedent for these types of cases. Rookie needs to get an atty today, and not wait until he is actually served. What crazy logic is that?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have a very warped Hollywood-like vision of how cases like this have worked in the past. Like I said, there is sufficient precedent for these types of cases. Rookie needs to get an atty today, and not wait until he is actually served. What crazy logic is that?</div></div>

Ah save money. I would see how far they are willing to take it first. Thousands of people get letters threatening action for stealing satellite TV and downloading movies from the internet. Most of the letters are not followed up on, because of the cost of prosecuting that many people. I bet less than a percent are taken to court. You can have a jury trail in civil court, and if there is no hard evidence, and the defense can argue it was possible that someone could have accessed his internet access point easily to download copyright content, I dont beleive a jury would convict.

I have been part of one of these cases, so it is not a very warped Hollywood-like vision on my part. I speak from experience as an expert witness in a similar case sir. Not crazy logic. It is crazy logic to jump the gun, waist money, get a lawyer to pay to soon, or admit you did it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have a very warped Hollywood-like vision of how cases like this have worked in the past. Like I said, there is sufficient precedent for these types of cases. Rookie needs to get an atty today, and not wait until he is actually served. What crazy logic is that?</div></div>

Ah save money. I would see how far they are willing to take it first. Thousands of people get letters threatening action for stealing satellite TV and downloading movies from the internet. Most of the letters are not followed up on, because of the cost of prosecuting that many people. I bet less than a percent are taken to court. You can have a jury trail in civil court, and if there is no hard evidence, and the defense can argue it was possible that someone could have accessed his internet access point easily to download copyright content, I dont beleive a jury would convict.

I have been part of one of these cases, so it is not a very warped Hollywood-like vision on my part. I speak from experience as an expert witness in a similar case sir. Not crazy logic. It is crazy logic to jump the gun, waist money, get a lawyer to pay to soon, or admit you did it.

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Silver, I agree with the spirit of what you're saying but what you're not understanding is that a retainer is refundable if not needed/used. In addition, getting an atty today might serve to shed light on options that the OP wouldn't know about that might nip this problem in the bud instead of waiting for the papers to be served and the costs to skyrocket. Who knows, maybe a $50 letter from the atty would be enough to stifle the whole thing but unless the OP sees one he'll never know. I just don't see the point in putting the problem on the back burner waiting for the shit to hit the fan.
 
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So Rookie75, what did you end up doing?
Did you retain a lawyer, settle or ignore the letter?