If I'm going to build a custom rifle based off of the Rem. action is it worth it to spend more on a 40x as apposed to a 700? I will be doing all of the accuracy upgrades - stock and bedding, new barrel, truing the action, lapping the lugs ect...ect.... I guess the question is - is the 40x action a better starting point?
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there was a video of a factory 700 vs custom action. After you pay for all the work done to the factory action to get it true, you're right @ the cost of the custom action.
there was a video of a factory 700 vs custom action. After you pay for all the work done to the factory action to get it true, you're right @ the cost of the custom action.
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700 action $350 (approx) blueprinting action and lapping lugs $250..A 40X is a factory trued 700 action.
700 action $350 (approx) blueprinting action and lapping lugs $250..A 40X is a factory trued 700 action.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: komifornian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I'm going to build a custom rifle based off of the Rem. action is it worth it to spend more on a 40x as apposed to a 700? I will be doing all of the accuracy upgrades - stock and bedding, new barrel, truing the action, lapping the lugs ect...ect.... I guess the question is - is the 40x action a better starting point? </div></div>
No. A bone stock Remington 700 is the perfect place to start your new build. The 40X is simply a more expensive Remington 700 action that has been factory tuned. A blueprinted Remington 700 action will be every bit as good as any custom action that fits a Remington 700 footprint. These actions are simply copies of the Remington 700 action and as such can offer no advantage over a well blueprinted factory action. Of course you will have the privilege of saying you have a (fill in this weeks trendy brand action) and you will have spent a little bit more money to do so. But the fact is you will not shoot any better no matter what the custom action fans want you to believe.
HTH!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: komifornian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I'm going to build a custom rifle based off of the Rem. action is it worth it to spend more on a 40x as apposed to a 700? I will be doing all of the accuracy upgrades - stock and bedding, new barrel, truing the action, lapping the lugs ect...ect.... I guess the question is - is the 40x action a better starting point? </div></div>
No. A bone stock Remington 700 is the perfect place to start your new build. The 40X is simply a more expensive Remington 700 action that has been factory tuned. A blueprinted Remington 700 action will be every bit as good as any custom action that fits a Remington 700 footprint. These actions are simply copies of the Remington 700 action and as such can offer no advantage over a well blueprinted factory action. Of course you will have the privilege of saying you have a (fill in this weeks trendy brand action) and you will have spent a little bit more money to do so. But the fact is you will not shoot any better no matter what the custom action fans want you to believe.
HTH!
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Stiller and defiance actions are good and people have made some real shooters using them, but I would only use a 591 if I were going custom. You just can't beat the integrated lug and rail. If you are spending the money you might as well buy something that inherently will have fewer failure points or points where an issue could arise.
Otherwise, I'd got rem. on the cheap, if that is what by budget called for.
Stiller and defiance actions are good and people have made some real shooters using them, but I would only use a 591 if I were going custom. You just can't beat the integrated lug and rail. If you are spending the money you might as well buy something that inherently will have fewer failure points or points where an issue could arise.
Otherwise, I'd got rem. on the cheap, if that is what by budget called for.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YAOG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: komifornian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I'm going to build a custom rifle based off of the Rem. action is it worth it to spend more on a 40x as apposed to a 700? I will be doing all of the accuracy upgrades - stock and bedding, new barrel, truing the action, lapping the lugs ect...ect.... I guess the question is - is the 40x action a better starting point? </div></div>
No. A bone stock Remington 700 is the perfect place to start your new build. The 40X is simply a more expensive Remington 700 action that has been factory tuned. A blueprinted Remington 700 action will be every bit as good as any custom action that fits a Remington 700 footprint. These actions are simply copies of the Remington 700 action and as such can offer no advantage over a well blueprinted factory action. Of course you will have the privilege of saying you have a (fill in this weeks trendy brand action) and you will have spent a little bit more money to do so. But the fact is you will not shoot any better no matter what the custom action fans want you to believe.
HTH!
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Actually, most the 40X actions arent much better in the blueprint category than the regular 700. The main advantage of the 40X is the availability of being a single shot. There are parts of the 700 that cannot be brought up to the custom status. Most all customs are stiffer and can yield better absolute accuracy due to the stiffness being a little better because of the smaller port cut. Although most customs fit the same stock as the 700, they really are not just a copy. Port cutout design, trigger timing etc is usually better. In ours, the extraction cuts are wrapped further around such that there is much larger area where the bolt contacts the back of the action for less wear and easier use. You really need to look at what both cost, look at resale and what features you want and decide. Dont let anyone tell you that a blueprinted 700 is THE SAME, or that you NEED a custom to be competive either. If you dont have a action already, the custom is usually cheaper and resales better. If you have a donor rifle, maybe the 700 route is cheaper, maybe.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YAOG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: komifornian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I'm going to build a custom rifle based off of the Rem. action is it worth it to spend more on a 40x as apposed to a 700? I will be doing all of the accuracy upgrades - stock and bedding, new barrel, truing the action, lapping the lugs ect...ect.... I guess the question is - is the 40x action a better starting point? </div></div>
No. A bone stock Remington 700 is the perfect place to start your new build. The 40X is simply a more expensive Remington 700 action that has been factory tuned. A blueprinted Remington 700 action will be every bit as good as any custom action that fits a Remington 700 footprint. These actions are simply copies of the Remington 700 action and as such can offer no advantage over a well blueprinted factory action. Of course you will have the privilege of saying you have a (fill in this weeks trendy brand action) and you will have spent a little bit more money to do so. But the fact is you will not shoot any better no matter what the custom action fans want you to believe.
HTH!
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Actually, most the 40X actions arent much better in the blueprint category than the regular 700. The main advantage of the 40X is the availability of being a single shot. There are parts of the 700 that cannot be brought up to the custom status. Most all customs are stiffer and can yield better absolute accuracy due to the stiffness being a little better because of the smaller port cut. Although most customs fit the same stock as the 700, they really are not just a copy. Port cutout design, trigger timing etc is usually better. In ours, the extraction cuts are wrapped further around such that there is much larger area where the bolt contacts the back of the action for less wear and easier use. You really need to look at what both cost, look at resale and what features you want and decide. Dont let anyone tell you that a blueprinted 700 is THE SAME, or that you NEED a custom to be competive either. If you dont have a action already, the custom is usually cheaper and resales better. If you have a donor rifle, maybe the 700 route is cheaper, maybe.
