Not sure if you guy's know much about the current retarded gun laws here in Australia, but basically we have to justify why we want a gun every time we try buy one, There is a thing called PTA or permit to acquire which asks why we want /need the gun and basically it is up to a tool in the Police service to say yes or no. Currently there is a big upset going on in OZ as cals like the .Lap,416,460,408 and .50 are now being heavily scrutinized and unless you have the best reason like long range pest control on propriety bigger than some states in the US you wont get them. We are starting to get very sick of being told that it is a public safety thing, and that the government is worried that terrorist or crims might get them and use the...... What a lode of BS. How many crims do you think will walk in to a 7-11 and hold them up with a cheytac. We need new reforms here in Australia that make gun laws uniform and actually work not punish the law abiding shooters.
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Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
Sad for you 64C.... Good luck in voting them outa office...?
Just come up with a very convincing story about pest control and you needing what you want and be as nice as their own brother. See if you can't befriend their law enforcement shooters... See if you can't hang out with their shooters (like at a shooting range), that might help in your situation. I may be wrong about this advice due to this being Australia but I am just trying to come up with different ideas that may help.... SmokeRolls
Sad for you 64C.... Good luck in voting them outa office...?
Just come up with a very convincing story about pest control and you needing what you want and be as nice as their own brother. See if you can't befriend their law enforcement shooters... See if you can't hang out with their shooters (like at a shooting range), that might help in your situation. I may be wrong about this advice due to this being Australia but I am just trying to come up with different ideas that may help.... SmokeRolls
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Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
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I have access to a 120000a place so i should be able to get my lap. The only prob with hanging out with the police is every one can shoot better than them esp the SERT guys. I use to laugh when i was in the army and we did comp shoots against the cops as we would smash them, you might see one of them in the top 10 on a good day lol. I am in Queensland and the regs here aint as bad as South Australia or Western Australia, really feel sorry for those boys. In WA you are lucky if you can own anything over a .243 without being bent over an probed.
I have access to a 120000a place so i should be able to get my lap. The only prob with hanging out with the police is every one can shoot better than them esp the SERT guys. I use to laugh when i was in the army and we did comp shoots against the cops as we would smash them, you might see one of them in the top 10 on a good day lol. I am in Queensland and the regs here aint as bad as South Australia or Western Australia, really feel sorry for those boys. In WA you are lucky if you can own anything over a .243 without being bent over an probed.
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
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Love it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
</div></div>
Love it.
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
</div></div>
Tell me when to push and I'll RAM IT.....SmokeRolls
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well 64, you may be pleased to hear that the "Tea Party" movement is going abroad. perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation, fed up with the metastisizing cancer of "nanny statism". Ultimately, the same type of urbane know it alls have a seeming choke hold on both our nations (Canada too...). Their mantra, "I wish we were more European".
The Tea Party movement, one part libertarian, one part conservative, one part just plain old leave me the fuck alone, appeals to those who know we have for too long accepted the slow erosion of God given rights and the condecension of a coalition of supposedly more worldly conspirators in media, academia, and liberal (and supposedly conservative but often absurdly pliable) government.
A push back is long overdue. Peaceful, unequivocal, well articulated and omnipresent.
Good luck.
</div></div>
Tell me when to push and I'll RAM IT.....SmokeRolls
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
Revolution works mate. Of course I wouldn't count on the French for help these days, nor the Germans but I am sure a few Finians may help out
Revolution works mate. Of course I wouldn't count on the French for help these days, nor the Germans but I am sure a few Finians may help out
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
64C,
The police here in S.A. are back on the 338LAPUA wagon. They banned the use of 338 Laps. Could not register any rifle in that calibre. Eventually they got rid of the officer causing all the trouble. Now it's back on again. the Cheytac is a no no here. People buying 375H&H rifles are having a hard time, apparently they don't know the difference between an H&H round and a cheytac. N.S.W is a little bit more relaxed when it come to these sorts of thing's. I hope they all come to there senses. then that could be a big ask.
Regards Albert
64C,
The police here in S.A. are back on the 338LAPUA wagon. They banned the use of 338 Laps. Could not register any rifle in that calibre. Eventually they got rid of the officer causing all the trouble. Now it's back on again. the Cheytac is a no no here. People buying 375H&H rifles are having a hard time, apparently they don't know the difference between an H&H round and a cheytac. N.S.W is a little bit more relaxed when it come to these sorts of thing's. I hope they all come to there senses. then that could be a big ask.
Regards Albert
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
This subject never fails to boggle my mind. Is the continent of Australia not a rather large one, sparsely populated (relative to land mass, no insult intended) and still relatively wild? Numerous indigenous, as well as foreign species of, nuisance animals and the strategic position right in the center of a certain burgeoning nation's long term growth trajectory.
Australians and Canadians should be trading notes and anecdotes on fire arms ownership with us, rather than be the object of our commiseration.
This subject never fails to boggle my mind. Is the continent of Australia not a rather large one, sparsely populated (relative to land mass, no insult intended) and still relatively wild? Numerous indigenous, as well as foreign species of, nuisance animals and the strategic position right in the center of a certain burgeoning nation's long term growth trajectory.
Australians and Canadians should be trading notes and anecdotes on fire arms ownership with us, rather than be the object of our commiseration.
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes.
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
Need to make some form of shorter fatter .338LM like the .50DTC and .50BMG and you need to find a real Aussie patriotic name for it like, the Daniel Deniehy .338 or something like that. It will make better politics if they try to take that away wouldn't it?
Need to make some form of shorter fatter .338LM like the .50DTC and .50BMG and you need to find a real Aussie patriotic name for it like, the Daniel Deniehy .338 or something like that. It will make better politics if they try to take that away wouldn't it?
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need to make some form of shorter fatter .338LM like the .50DTC and .50BMG and you need to find a real Aussie patriotic name for it like, the Daniel Deniehy .338 or something like that. It will make better politics if they try to take that away wouldn't it? </div></div>no, the .408"Crock Hunter" or the .416crikey
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need to make some form of shorter fatter .338LM like the .50DTC and .50BMG and you need to find a real Aussie patriotic name for it like, the Daniel Deniehy .338 or something like that. It will make better politics if they try to take that away wouldn't it? </div></div>no, the .408"Crock Hunter" or the .416crikey
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes. </div></div>
Pretty broad brush condemnation from someone so worldly and cosmopolitan as yourself. Perhaps your own venality so impresses you that the very extremism you profess to abhor is manifested in the many generalizations you so frequently post, along with your regular demands for the legaization of narcotics.
Maybe your world view would come a little more in focus with a little less munchies consumption.
There is nothing new in saying that all politicians are assholes or claiming that one doesn't like extremes. It is laziness, nothing more. Unlike your slovenly, scornful description of Tea Party participants, a more accurate appraisal would be remarking at the incidence of millions of thoughtful, productive and frustrated people who have resolved to combat the current trend toward mob rule that is underway here, as well as some who's views and opinions seem poorly framed and articulated.
Sorry they don't share your dream of a dope smoking society of wasted moderates, intoxicated, watching subsidized pay-per-view porno, and awaiting their next debit of inflated (and increasingly worthless) scrip from Big Brother.
The point of the movement is to return personal responsibility and accountability to the individual once again: The fundamental point of the American experiment. It worked for a disparate population of immigrants here and does so whenever applied.
The point at hand here; the myth of legislated security is what has caused the suffocating gun legislation in Australia, Canada, here, and elsewhere. A movement based on wrenching back the freedoms sliced away and slowly eroding into the memories of otherwise thoughtful people may seem jarring and offensive to those wanting a glide path to easy street.
It's an illusion and fortunately some people are willing to risk their livlihoods to demand a return to the principles of individual liberty.
Of course if your main objective is reefer legalization, your bar may be set a little lower...
How do you like those dual flavored Doritos?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes. </div></div>
Pretty broad brush condemnation from someone so worldly and cosmopolitan as yourself. Perhaps your own venality so impresses you that the very extremism you profess to abhor is manifested in the many generalizations you so frequently post, along with your regular demands for the legaization of narcotics.
Maybe your world view would come a little more in focus with a little less munchies consumption.
There is nothing new in saying that all politicians are assholes or claiming that one doesn't like extremes. It is laziness, nothing more. Unlike your slovenly, scornful description of Tea Party participants, a more accurate appraisal would be remarking at the incidence of millions of thoughtful, productive and frustrated people who have resolved to combat the current trend toward mob rule that is underway here, as well as some who's views and opinions seem poorly framed and articulated.
Sorry they don't share your dream of a dope smoking society of wasted moderates, intoxicated, watching subsidized pay-per-view porno, and awaiting their next debit of inflated (and increasingly worthless) scrip from Big Brother.
The point of the movement is to return personal responsibility and accountability to the individual once again: The fundamental point of the American experiment. It worked for a disparate population of immigrants here and does so whenever applied.
The point at hand here; the myth of legislated security is what has caused the suffocating gun legislation in Australia, Canada, here, and elsewhere. A movement based on wrenching back the freedoms sliced away and slowly eroding into the memories of otherwise thoughtful people may seem jarring and offensive to those wanting a glide path to easy street.
It's an illusion and fortunately some people are willing to risk their livlihoods to demand a return to the principles of individual liberty.
Of course if your main objective is reefer legalization, your bar may be set a little lower...
How do you like those dual flavored Doritos?
Re: New caliber restrictions in Australia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes. </div></div>
I'm surprised you jumped on the tea party first, when GOD FORBID someone mentioned GOD GIVEN RIGHTS in an above post.
I'm not as eloquent with words as some on this forum, so I can't put together a nice paragraph response with facts, but after reading a ton of your posts throughout the boards, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">perhaps it is nearly as good a fit for the Australian people as it is for those in our nation . . .</div></div>
That's quite the presumption isn't it?
I find the Tea Party to be a bunch of asshats, not suitable for much of anything other than further dividing our nation as part of a political extreme hell bent on doing nothing blaming the other political extremes. </div></div>
I'm surprised you jumped on the tea party first, when GOD FORBID someone mentioned GOD GIVEN RIGHTS in an above post.
I'm not as eloquent with words as some on this forum, so I can't put together a nice paragraph response with facts, but after reading a ton of your posts throughout the boards, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG.
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