Fieldcraft NEW CAMO!

[blksno]

all purpose snow and prairie patterns

OK, so I have 4 new patterns done with about 6 more in the works. None of which can I show...(yet)

Would any one know how to copyright and then market a camouflage pattern to a larger company or at least point me in the right direction to get started?

thanks fellas.

 

[Hateca]

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http://www.copyright.gov/

Having a copyright guarantees nothing unless you are willing and have the funds to enforce it. Unless you have a very good patented or copyright attorney to protect your intrests you are pretty much wasting your money doing either. A patented will cost a whole lot more then a copyright.

Good luck.

 

[IdahoMike]

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All you need to do is pick up the phone, find out who the HNIC is get his/her number or email, explain who you are, and ask if they are interested in picking up new camo patterns. Make sure you have a copyright or patent pending atleast before you show anyone your patterns. (Last but not least you need to have money for maufacturing cost, import fees, ect...blah blah), Most companies that would pick somthing up such as a camo pattern to market will most likely want you to take care of any manufacturing on your end, for instance they may say sure we are interested and would like to market this pattern "however" we would like you to get us these specific materials for production, we will manufacture clothing, outerware, blankets, seat covers, ect... from the materials you provide to us and will purchase said materials from you as needed.
Basically what I am saying is... you need cash. If you get to the point where a company wants to pick your pattern up and this scenario plays out, hit me up on the manufacturing end and I can help you get together with a manufacturer distributer for materials.

 

[ace31]

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GOODLUCK cbass! Let us see the patterns once you get them protected.

 

[sniperdude]

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some atty's do give free consolts on this , a friend of mine tried to get a patent on a piece of tactical gear, cost him about 8k to find out he couldnt. not trying to scare you but be prepared.copywright should be a lot easier. good luck

and I always like to be the first kid on the block with some new camo so post those pics asap

 

[JRose]

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THESE GUYS CAN HELP....

 

[blksno]

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thanks for the pointers fellas. I basically planed to do what IdahoMike said. come up with an idea and try getting it produced by someone with a reputation already.
the designs have gotten fabulous reviews by guys in a recent predator contest but like said..i need to find someone that can actually print a few yards for me.

 

[-=boone=-]

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Put your work into a envelope. Go to post office, mail to yourself. Leave sealed.

 

[blksno]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Put your work into a envelope. Go to post office, mail to yourself. Leave sealed. </div></div>

ohh, very very good idea. i had thought about doing the age old "hostage proof of life picture" putting a current news paper down on top of my designs and taking a picure...(but I'm good enough with Photoshop that I could fake that with my eyes closed)

 

[Hateca]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_bass16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Put your work into a envelope. Go to post office, mail to yourself. Leave sealed. </div></div>

ohh, very very good idea. i had thought about doing the age old "hostage proof of life picture" putting a current news paper down on top of my designs and taking a picure...(but I'm good enough with Photoshop that I could fake that with my eyes closed) </div></div>

That won't work to protect you. To better protect yourself and your item without a patented or copyright you would need to show retail or wholesale receipts or invoices with dates to show that your idea or design was in use in the general market place before the other guys, if the other guy happened to steel it and patented it or copyrights it before you do. In other words you would need to show history.

Even with that you could still loose in patented litigation, patent and or copyright first is your best bet.

 

[-=boone=-]

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I never said it was as good as a patent. It will however win a law suit.

 

[blksno]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never said it was as good as a patent. It will however win a law suit. </div></div>

I got word that if a lawsuit were to arise, the date a pattern was made available to the public is irrelevant if someone can prove their pattern was designed first, and so, even if i don't copyright my pattern (and I have heard copyright is the proper route to take)
If someone were to..in the future...come out with a pattern that a court feels is too similar to MINE...I would be awarded damages, even if it has never been released to the public. (and of course this would require me having to pony up the dough and take a chance on taking a big name camo company to the proverbial wood shed)

 

[Hateca]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never said it was as good as a patent. It will however win a law suit. </div></div>

If you think so, but I can tell you from experience, more then likely it won't.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_bass16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never said it was as good as a patent. It will however win a law suit. </div></div>

I got word that if a lawsuit were to arise, the date a pattern was made available to the public is irrelevant if someone can prove their pattern was designed first, and so, even if i don't copyright my pattern (and I have heard copyright is the proper route to take)
If someone were to..in the future...come out with a pattern that a court feels is too similar to MINE...I would be awarded damages, even if it has never been released to the public. (and of course this would require me having to pony up the dough and take a chance on taking a big name camo company to the proverbial wood shed) </div></div>

Trust me, from experience that is not always the case. Just because someone has an idea and never does anything with it, is no garentee one will win a patented or copyright lawsuit if someone else brings the idea to market whether they steel the idea or not.. There's a reason for patented attorneys and why they cost so much.

I’ve been down this road and what you hear, what is fact, or what actually happens are two different things.

Either way good luck with your endeavor.

 

[IdahoMike]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_bass16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never said it was as good as a patent. It will however win a law suit. </div></div>

I got word that if a lawsuit were to arise, the date a pattern was made available to the public is irrelevant if someone can prove their pattern was designed first, and so, even if i don't copyright my pattern (and I have heard copyright is the proper route to take)
If someone were to..in the future...come out with a pattern that a court feels is too similar to MINE...I would be awarded damages, even if it has never been released to the public. (and of course this would require me having to pony up the dough and take a chance on taking a big name camo company to the proverbial wood shed)</div></div>

If a person has a "new" invention and shares his/ her secret with someone and then they tell their buddy and buddy "invents" the same thing and markets it without a patent their aint shit anyone can do about it, if he takes his "invention" to the patent office and begins the process before the original inventor, their aint shit he can do about it (except a civil suit) but if the original inventor can prove he was actively on the road to a patent pend. (proof of paperwork blah blah) then he has a leg to stand on.