I just read that Remington is releasing a "new" rifle platform this year. Anyone in the know about what it might be? Controlled round feed...
New Remington Platform?
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Not new but hopefully new to me something cool I have been wanting.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/M24-Rebuild.aspx
Not new but hopefully new to me something cool I have been wanting.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/M24-Rebuild.aspx
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Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not.
Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not. </div></div>
True, true...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not. </div></div>
True, true...
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The 700 was created in 1962, those masterminds are ancient...
The 700 was created in 1962, those masterminds are ancient...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not. </div></div>
The X Mark is not a great trigger, but the two that I have had were very serviceable.
The SPS series of rifles are budget conscious rifles.
If you want a factory remington with a good, solid stock, they sell those also.
They sell as every one of those SPS tacticals they make.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these the same masterminds that brought us the J-Lock, X-Mark Pro trigger, and Hogue stocks on "precision" rifles? Hope not. </div></div>
The X Mark is not a great trigger, but the two that I have had were very serviceable.
The SPS series of rifles are budget conscious rifles.
If you want a factory remington with a good, solid stock, they sell those also.
They sell as every one of those SPS tacticals they make.
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I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut...
I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut... </div></div>
if they're smart, they will
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut... </div></div>
if they're smart, they will
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lencomatt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless its the MSR at a reasonable price, I doubt anybody will really care. </div></div>
pretty much
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lencomatt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless its the MSR at a reasonable price, I doubt anybody will really care. </div></div>
pretty much
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It would be nice if they would release a main-stream version of the MSR. Even an MSR action in a normal stock would make me happy. But I don't think they really give a shit about guys like us. We're supposed to be happy with the 700 til the end of time.
It would be nice if they would release a main-stream version of the MSR. Even an MSR action in a normal stock would make me happy. But I don't think they really give a shit about guys like us. We're supposed to be happy with the 700 til the end of time.
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Looks like it will have a barrel nut.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/remington-783-review/
Looks like it will have a barrel nut.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/remington-783-review/
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Thanks Alpine.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut... </div></div>
Uh oh. NaN!
Thanks Alpine.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Snipers Hide would divide by zero if the new Remington included a barrel nut... </div></div>
Uh oh. NaN!
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Barrel nut AND a bladed trigger?
Good to see Big Green is letting Savage do market research for them.
In seriousness, I wonder if the action will be 700 footprint for stocks and accessories, as Alpine's article doesn't really address it.
**If** the 783 is a 700 footprint for accessories, **and*** the action threads are 1-1/16"-20 to accept small shank Savage prefit barrels...well my friends
Barrel nut AND a bladed trigger?
Good to see Big Green is letting Savage do market research for them.
In seriousness, I wonder if the action will be 700 footprint for stocks and accessories, as Alpine's article doesn't really address it.
**If** the 783 is a 700 footprint for accessories, **and*** the action threads are 1-1/16"-20 to accept small shank Savage prefit barrels...well my friends
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Maybe on the 700 action footprint...but there is no f-ing way they won't have a 'proprietary' thread on the barrel.
Maybe on the 700 action footprint...but there is no f-ing way they won't have a 'proprietary' thread on the barrel.
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...of course this could end up being just like the Savage Edge/Axis debacle...
...of course this could end up being just like the Savage Edge/Axis debacle...
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I would think they would be foolish not to design it on the same footprint, but who knows. If I was on that design team that would be a high priority on the design intent wish list. After making a stock for the savage action and the Rem 700 I can tell you the Rem 700 is a better design and the engineers that designed it had the whole rifle in mind when they did so. On the savage action you loose some real estate on the rear pillar to allow sufficient clearance for the trigger assembly, but it doesn't really matter since accuracy isn't affected.
I would think they would be foolish not to design it on the same footprint, but who knows. If I was on that design team that would be a high priority on the design intent wish list. After making a stock for the savage action and the Rem 700 I can tell you the Rem 700 is a better design and the engineers that designed it had the whole rifle in mind when they did so. On the savage action you loose some real estate on the rear pillar to allow sufficient clearance for the trigger assembly, but it doesn't really matter since accuracy isn't affected.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lencomatt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless its the MSR at a reasonable price, I doubt anybody will really care. </div></div>
This. I want one but the chassis alone is 2k? Good lord.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lencomatt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless its the MSR at a reasonable price, I doubt anybody will really care. </div></div>
This. I want one but the chassis alone is 2k? Good lord.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barrel nut AND a bladed trigger?
Good to see Big Green is letting Savage do market research for them.
In seriousness, I wonder if the action will be 700 footprint for stocks and accessories, as Alpine's article doesn't really address it.
**If** the 783 is a 700 footprint for accessories, **and*** the action threads are 1-1/16"-20 to accept small shank Savage prefit barrels...well my friends
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I don't like it. If Remington starts using a barrel nut we're gonna have to find a new topic to pointlessly kick each other in the balls over. Is this some sort of convoluted plan for achieving world peace? Change is bad.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Barrel nut AND a bladed trigger?
Good to see Big Green is letting Savage do market research for them.
In seriousness, I wonder if the action will be 700 footprint for stocks and accessories, as Alpine's article doesn't really address it.
**If** the 783 is a 700 footprint for accessories, **and*** the action threads are 1-1/16"-20 to accept small shank Savage prefit barrels...well my friends
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I don't like it. If Remington starts using a barrel nut we're gonna have to find a new topic to pointlessly kick each other in the balls over. Is this some sort of convoluted plan for achieving world peace? Change is bad.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ryoxy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is this some kind of collaboration between the two companies? </div></div>
Yup, its a Savington
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ryoxy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is this some kind of collaboration between the two companies? </div></div>
Yup, its a Savington
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I think its a good step, especially if it is indeed in a 700 footprint, and accepts Savage barrels. I'm pretty big on Savage rifles, but if Remington did this on the 783, I'd definitely buy one, now just to wait for a lefty version...
I think its a good step, especially if it is indeed in a 700 footprint, and accepts Savage barrels. I'm pretty big on Savage rifles, but if Remington did this on the 783, I'd definitely buy one, now just to wait for a lefty version...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 783 has a proprietary cylindrical receiver with a minimally sized ejection port.</div></div>
Picture of the receiver. Maybe someone more familiar than me can take a guess.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 783 has a proprietary cylindrical receiver with a minimally sized ejection port.</div></div>
Picture of the receiver. Maybe someone more familiar than me can take a guess.
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That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at?
That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
Increasingly, it appears like they're aiming at "lowest possible cost of manufacture".
Yup, it looks just like the Savage Axis - made to a price point and little more.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
Increasingly, it appears like they're aiming at "lowest possible cost of manufacture".
Yup, it looks just like the Savage Axis - made to a price point and little more.
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The 770's are junk
Maybe this is a step up, or maybe they are trying to get back some of the market they have to be lossing to some of the other guys
The 770's are junk
Maybe this is a step up, or maybe they are trying to get back some of the market they have to be lossing to some of the other guys
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
I swapped out my Accutrigger on my 308 10PC ... made the rifle much more reliable/enjoyable to shoot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
I swapped out my Accutrigger on my 308 10PC ... made the rifle much more reliable/enjoyable to shoot.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunnut284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"New - from the makers of the 710, 770 and 522 Viper" </div></div>
That is a lot more of what I'm afraid of. I couldn't believe Remington still pushes their biggest project loser, the 710/715/770 They've had to change the name three times because it's so crappy. People won't buy it because it's crap. Yet they still push it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunnut284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"New - from the makers of the 710, 770 and 522 Viper" </div></div>
That is a lot more of what I'm afraid of. I couldn't believe Remington still pushes their biggest project loser, the 710/715/770 They've had to change the name three times because it's so crappy. People won't buy it because it's crap. Yet they still push it.
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I like the MSR.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/en/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/MSR.aspx
I like the MSR.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/en/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/MSR.aspx
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Cough, Cough....
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/03/the-new-remington-783-bolt-action-on-a-budget/
Cough, Cough....
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/03/the-new-remington-783-bolt-action-on-a-budget/
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: derrekmorehead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How bout "Remage" ?..?..... Sounds too French huh? </div></div>
Savington. Big green has adopted the barrel nut, floating bolt head and now copied the accutrigger.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: derrekmorehead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How bout "Remage" ?..?..... Sounds too French huh? </div></div>
Savington. Big green has adopted the barrel nut, floating bolt head and now copied the accutrigger.
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The classic bold shroud and knob gone!? What the fuck is that? Fine if they want to make changes, but to spit on their own history in the process?
An accu trigger?!
Do I need to go and buy a dozen 700's now just to insure my children's children will be able to own a decent rifle?
I'm going back to the Nightforce Beast thread. This one is just depressing.
The classic bold shroud and knob gone!? What the fuck is that? Fine if they want to make changes, but to spit on their own history in the process?
An accu trigger?!
Do I need to go and buy a dozen 700's now just to insure my children's children will be able to own a decent rifle?
I'm going back to the Nightforce Beast thread. This one is just depressing.
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"No more 3 rings of steel".... A cast MIM bolt, and to make things worse it still has a 90 degree bolt throw. (no insults intended.) Low cost rifle for Remington = overpriced rifle but cheaper than the 700's for the customer.
Plenty of good rifles available to choose from...
"No more 3 rings of steel".... A cast MIM bolt, and to make things worse it still has a 90 degree bolt throw. (no insults intended.) Low cost rifle for Remington = overpriced rifle but cheaper than the 700's for the customer.
Plenty of good rifles available to choose from...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
I swapped out my Accutrigger on my 308 10PC ... made the rifle much more reliable/enjoyable to shoot.</div></div>
Yeah it's on the list but theres a lotta other projects need doin first.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lonely_Wolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The classic bold shroud and knob gone!? What the fuck is that? Fine if they want to make changes, but to spit on their own history in the process?
An accu trigger?!
Do I need to go and buy a dozen 700's now just to insure my children's children will be able to own a decent rifle?
<span style="font-weight: bold">I'm going back to the Nightforce Beast thread. This one is just depressing.</span></div></div>
Hahaha I loled. Just came from that way. It's sad, gettin sadder.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That trigger is abhorrent. The accu-trigger is the sole reason my Savages don't get more range time. It already has a Remington style thumb safety, so make the trigger a 2 stage or ditch the blade altogether.
This will be nice for hunters on a budget but that's not the crowd that will be tinkering with different barrels and cartridges so the barrel nut idea is out of place.
I'm really confused by this thing. Who exactly are they aiming at? </div></div>
I swapped out my Accutrigger on my 308 10PC ... made the rifle much more reliable/enjoyable to shoot.</div></div>
Yeah it's on the list but theres a lotta other projects need doin first.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lonely_Wolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The classic bold shroud and knob gone!? What the fuck is that? Fine if they want to make changes, but to spit on their own history in the process?
An accu trigger?!
Do I need to go and buy a dozen 700's now just to insure my children's children will be able to own a decent rifle?
<span style="font-weight: bold">I'm going back to the Nightforce Beast thread. This one is just depressing.</span></div></div>
Hahaha I loled. Just came from that way. It's sad, gettin sadder.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sc0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cough, Cough....
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/03/the-new-remington-783-bolt-action-on-a-budget/</div></div>
That's just freaking depressing ... They're focusing on quantity rather than quality. Everything about this new rifle is how to get it produced en-mass. I don't think Remington really cares about precision rifle market share.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sc0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cough, Cough....
http://www.guns.com/2013/01/03/the-new-remington-783-bolt-action-on-a-budget/</div></div>
That's just freaking depressing ... They're focusing on quantity rather than quality. Everything about this new rifle is how to get it produced en-mass. I don't think Remington really cares about precision rifle market share.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's just freaking depressing ... They're focusing on quantity rather than quality. Everything about this new rifle is how to get it produced en-mass. I don't think Remington really cares about precision rifle market share. </div></div>
Exactly. Hopefully there is more to be released. It's sad when a company's 'pride' in the new year is so dismal.
Off the top of my head...Why not:
- An updated P and LTR (1/10 and threaded)?
- A serious DBM offering? Even Ruger has an AICS clone now...
- An AAC-SD offered with an HSP Stock?
- More stainless options! More caliber options!
- Or, if they <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> want to copy Savage, why not some offerings with McMillan stocks?
I hope there is more at Shot Show. A company should be using this opportunity to show off!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's just freaking depressing ... They're focusing on quantity rather than quality. Everything about this new rifle is how to get it produced en-mass. I don't think Remington really cares about precision rifle market share. </div></div>
Exactly. Hopefully there is more to be released. It's sad when a company's 'pride' in the new year is so dismal.
Off the top of my head...Why not:
- An updated P and LTR (1/10 and threaded)?
- A serious DBM offering? Even Ruger has an AICS clone now...
- An AAC-SD offered with an HSP Stock?
- More stainless options! More caliber options!
- Or, if they <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> want to copy Savage, why not some offerings with McMillan stocks?
I hope there is more at Shot Show. A company should be using this opportunity to show off!
