I reallu liked the S&B's that I have checked out so far and am going to get one or two. I knnow the 1.1-8X and the 3-20X will not be out untiol after SHOT. No problem. But I also want one of the 5-25X's. The question is there anything different on the 2012 version of the 5-25 that is worth waiting for. I do want H2CMR illum ret., MTC clicks, CCCW movement, double turn., and I don't think I need locking turrets. If there is no benefit in waiting for 2012, Is there HIDE dealer that has LE discount if that even applies. Thanks for any help. Jeff.