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    U.S.New Zealanders have voluntarily turned in more than 10,000 guns following the mass shooting in Christchurch
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    More than 10,000 firearms have been turned into New Zealand police as part of a government effort to buy back guns following the Christchurch massacre, authorities said Monday.
    New Zealand banned most automatic and semi-automatic weapons and components that modify existing weapons in the immediate wake of the shooting that left 51 people dead and scores injured at two mosques in March.
    The country also established a buy-back program to allow gun owners to be compensated for turning in their weapons.
    Since the voluntary program began in July, 10,242 firearms have been handed into police, and another 1,269 firearms have been handed in under an amnesty program, which allows people to turn in their guns without any questions about how or when they obtained them.
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    More than 90 collection events have taken place across the country with more than 7,000 gun owners attending, police said.
    "We have been really happy with New Zealand’s engagement and response to this process and we look forward to more people taking part in the buy-back scheme over the coming months," police said in a statement.
    Police said the buy-back and amnesty programs end December 20.
    Following the shooting, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern vowed swift action to change the country's gun laws. The accused shooter used legally purchased semi-automatic rifles with modifications during the rampage.
    "On March 15, the nation witnessed a terrorist attack that demonstrated the weakness of New Zealand's gun laws," Ardern said at the time. "The guns used in this attack had the power to shoot continuously. The times for the easy availability of these weapons must end. And today, they will."
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    She added, "We just want the guns back. ... It's about all of us. It's in the national interest, and it's about safety."
     
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    Surely 10k is only a drop in the bucket, but yeah. Sounds like at least 7000 of them have.

    It’s a decent amount. In the end, we knew the kiwis didn’t have any kiwis. I heard they were rounding people up at work and escorting them home to collect as well from someone. Not sure if that’s true. If so, the media has been quiet about it.
     
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    As predicted by everyone who has their eyes open, the government apparently is not happy with just the first bite.

    Apparently they are now going for round 2 of a new law banning most everything and most ownership of things without hugely tedious likely to be denied special permission.

    There were also unconfirmed reports of police showing up at people's work place and demanding to escort them home then and there to get some guns.
     
    Well, they structured their government after Englands. Dumb luck for them as they didn't learn from us.
     
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    Well, they structured their government after Englands. Dumb luck for them as they didn't learn from us.

    That's what you get when you ask if they would kindly please if they don't mind letting you have your own government.
     
    Has this been verified?

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    This article says:

    So far, more than $12 million of compensation has been handed out to 4200 Kiwi gun owners who have surrendered their firearms at collection events across the country.

    Also says there are 1.2 to 1.5 million firearms in NZ. So even if 10,000 have been turned in, it is still well under 1%.


     
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    Maybe not. Who wrote this piece? Might be making it seem that that many have been turned in. Hardly believe anything on the www


    i heard the 10k number was not firearms. it was parts, as well. I heard it was closer to 1,200 fulling functioning firearms.

    But just like in the US, if someone turned in a bulged barrel from a damascus shotgun, it was counted as an assault rifle.
     
    This article says:

    So far, more than $12 million of compensation has been handed out to 4200 Kiwi gun owners who have surrendered their firearms at collection events across the country.

    Also says there are 1.2 to 1.5 million firearms in NZ. So even if 10,000 have been turned in, it is still well under 1%.


    Sounds like very very few are turnifn them in

    7000 gun owners turned into 10000 guns?

    I don't even know any casual shooters who only have 1-2 guns. Even non gun people have 2-3 minimum. (I'm talking people who only have them for hunting or self defense or whatever who are not gun people )
     
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    Sounds like very very few are turnifn them in

    7000 gun owners turned into 10000 guns?

    I don't even know any casual shooters who only have 1-2 guns. Even non gun people have 2-3 minimum. (I'm talking people who only have them for hunting or self defense or whatever who are not gun people )


    Agreed. I'd bet you would get a 1% turn in rate here no problem. Looks like the buyback has been going two months, but I wouldn't look at a .75% turn in rate as 'successful', or indicating a full scale pussification (maybe just partial) :). Hell, that is probably little old lady's grabbing their dead husbands .38 specials to make a couple bucks.
     
    i heard the 10k number was not firearms. it was parts, as well. I heard it was closer to 1,200 fulling functioning firearms.

    But just like in the US, if someone turned in a bulged barrel from a damascus shotgun, it was counted as an assault rifle.


    I really hope that they are counting it in this fashion. I still have sets of factory triggers and ratchet/bolt return springs swapped from clients' revolvers when I did custom internal rebuilds and coil spring replacements for them. Perhaps I should wait until one of our local libtards hold a gun buyback and take those in to exchange for some $$$$. Why not, right? There are some places in this country where people are so fucking clueless and bought in to the leftist Kool Aid that if I were to show up to their cafes or knitting clubs, whatever, lay down a handkerchief on the table with a bunch of miscellaneous springs and screws and whatnot, and announce that these are gun parts, they will call the cops on me out of fright...
     
    I remember hearing about this advertising scam back in college... BANDWAGON = trying to make it sound like everyone is doing it, so you should do it too. What stupid, petty tactics. There are 1.5 million firearms estimated in New Zealand. Even if they did turn in 10k, which sounds like could include 900 screws, springs, and pieces of wood, 10k is still less than 1% of 1.5m.
     
    There are an estimated 1,212,000 firearms in civilian possession in New Zealand according to a 2017 survey. 10,000 turned in is a .08% compliance rate. I hate to say it, but if we had a similar law here in the US, we would have a higher turn-in rate.

    The other thing is the "estimate" of owned firearms. Is that based on polling Data? Some people would underestimate their ownership if anyone asked. Because of reasons. And because of "just following orders" bureaucrat pawns....
     
    Here in Aus in 96 after our semi auto ban, there was a buy back. Guys we’re bringing in
    parts of firearms and getting top dollar: thousands of dollars for busted ass pieces of
    shit no sane person would pay a nickel for. If the same happens in NZ, they are going
    to need to up their bank account a little bit...

    Like good citizens, my father and I handed in our semis and got an epic amount of $$
    which got reinvested in hunting and LR bolt guns. Due to contract work with unmentionable
    organisations, we had to play it straight by the book and handed in everything required.
    Australia is a VERY big place: I would suggest there are all sorts of interesting toys secreted
    away in farms and secret locations. For eg there were millions of cheap shitty SKS rifles
    imported into Aus, I think about 200k got handed in.

    A Boys anti tank rilfle could be had for $200 in the 70’s, wonder how many got buried? I heard
    of a farmer who called the Boys a ‘ 9 sheep rifle’. During a drought period many years ago,
    the Gov was paying farmers to destroy sheep and compensating farmers. 10 sheep in a row
    is too many for a Boys apparently...
     
    Me thinking too myself; "I'm a reasonable person. I have no inclination towards harming anyone. Yet there's evil people bent on hurting other's. I'll never understand it, but logic dictates that they exist as they have, and will again, slaughter other human beings for reasons I'll never comprehend. But hey, I'll just hand over the only real deterrent to those who seek to do evil to other's. It makes me feel better. Even though I would never harm another unless they were trying to harm me or one's I love.".

    I just don't fucking get it.
     
    idiots. when they did this in australia a lot got buried ......... and i mean a lot

    A tool that is buried and cannot be used isn’t really a tool and does little good. At that point they might as well be turned in. There is a shitload of illegal guns in Germany to but unless you just plan on getting one out and rubbing off to it then it’s pointless. It can’t be used so what’s the point of having one. If you have to bury them then it’s time to use them. Just my .02 cents. By then you’ve already lost.
     
    Another socialist country going full left...oh let's not forget that they are also being overrun by muslims as well....good on them
     
    Media:
    "It appears gun owners have said "fuck you" to turning in their guns"

    Kiwi rulers:
    "Stop reporting that shit, it's bad publicity, and encouraging scofflaws! Rewrite the piece, give it a happy ending, say...10,000 guns."

    Media:
    After nearly 3 months, the gun confiscations are going swimmingly!"

    Yeah....I ain't buying it.

     
    Yes, turn them in. Ask this ol boy how dying on your knees unarmed worked out...
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    Shock and denial can be truly detrimental to one's innate survival instincts. For many people, especially those who had never had any fighting, armed combat, or dangerous situations survival training, something as calamitous and overwhelming such as having themselves, their families and their neighbors suddenly rounded up by armed troops and sent to a slaughter pit simply causes their minds to "shut down". Their brains are trying to cope with this massive turn of events and trying to protect itself from further trauma, thus it enters what can be best called a "sleep" mode. This is why photographs of death camp victims as well as survivors of earthquakes, mudslides, tornadoes, and other natural disasters which strike with little warning and overwhelming force, all have that classic "thousand yard stare" just like the man in this photograph has. They may still know what is going on around them but their full fight or flight responses never had a chance to kick in as their minds were simply shocked into dormancy before that could happen. Even when young children are suddenly exposed to new, loud, and unnerving environments such as their first fireworks show, they may also exhibit such reactions, albeit on a smaller scale.
     
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