Hey. Thanks for letting me join the site. I'm new to the long range shootin deal . Just reloaded my first 50 shells n shot them today. They did good. But I keep seeing where guys are using 44 grains of powder with the 140 grain bullet. (6.5 creedmoor) is it safe to do that? Thanks!!!! ( my lil booklet says 34 grains of powder for 140 grain bullet)
Newby with a 6.5 creedmoor
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Wow. I sure appreciate the feedback. I'm using h4895. I only bought 1 lb thinking I may need to change. The 44 grains I referred to was with RL-19. I'm using 140 grain berger projectiles. Any more suggestions and info will be Highly Appreciated! Thanks again. ( my goal is 1000 yards)
Go to the reloading depot section of this site and look at the recipes guys are using. I'm not familiar with that particular powder but with the H4350 that most guys shoot for 6.5 then you'll see most of them shooting in the 41.5-42.5 range. You'll also want to look for signs of overpressure and hot loads. Obviously a blown primer is bad but if you start seeing your primers crater then you are getting to the hotter end.
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Yeah, always start lower and work up but amounts vary by rifle...chamber tolerances can change pressure build. Also note that length in terms of non compressed case volume makes a big difference (i.e. Same load/bullet might be safe at 2.9" and not 2.79")
In general I start towards the bottom end work up when approaching book max keep increases small to pressure test...look up signs of pressure issues and stop and back down when they first appear...note temperature when testing as the warmer it is (the case not just day) the higher pressures you will get.
H4895 is not a good powder for the 140 weight bullets. You can get accuracy but you will be giving up velocity. Use a powder in the H4350 burn rate area.
I am doing 260 but in the 143/147 imr 4451 and currently testing the super performance...4350 is sometimes very hard to find
Scroll down to the topics your looking for bud. All the knowledge you seek is but a few clicks away. Best advice you'll find on here is still "get out and shoot", the rest of the rabbit holes are DEEP! Good luck
You can read about bags and bipods until the cows come home...
Having been on and off here for several years, but still considering myself a "newbie" , I'll offer my opinion on the bags and bipod. But keep in mind how opinions are...
I have a Rifles Only small rear bag that I got off Amazon (~$32 at the time). It is well made but I don't care for the fill--it seems very course and doesn't seem to pack down tightly. It's also a little too small for me. I recently bought a large rear bag (30 oz I think) from TAB Gear and I much prefer it to the Rifles Only. It is very nicely built and the fill in it compacts down nicely for a solid platform. It is usable in 3 different heights and is now my go-to rear bag. (was $38.73 shipped to my door)
As far as bipods, do yourself a favor and don't buy a chi-com knockoff from Amazon or Flea-bay. The 3 main, ie, most popular choices are the Harris BRM-S 6″-9″ for around $100 (Also get a ~$25 pod-loc for it to make adjusting the tension much easier) or the Atlas V-8 for about $220 or the Atlas PSR for about $320 (has non rotating legs, quick attach mount, and other upgrades)
The main advantage of the Harris is the quick deployment of the legs and that it attaches to most any sling stud.
The main advantage of the Atlas is it's more forgiving/easier to load and has more options on leg height due to multiple leg positions.
Do some reading up on this and also see if you can find someone with each kind so you can figure out which one you like better.
I had the Harris, but got a V-8 Atlas for the above mentioned advantages. I tried it out but didn't like it because the legs rotated, and on a hard surface the feet acted like small wheels and it would tend to move forward. So I got the Atlas PSR and haven't looked back. You'll get plenty of opinions from both sides of the fence, but it ultimately comes down to personal preference
Hope this helps
I have a few times, but I like having the bipod because its always there when I shoot. I think most folks on here use a bipod, but I'm sure you can find some with more front bag experience than me. I would think that the right combination of bags would just as steady if not more so than a bag/bipod combo...
H4350 is the most popular powder for the 6.5's but it can be hard to find. I poked around some over the past few weeks and ended up finding a small gun shop in our nearest city that had 2lbs and called me today that they managed to get 4lbs more - they got my CC over the phone. Lol! Not the 8lb jug I wanted (for the single lot #) but right now I consider myself lucky! That said, IMR Enduron 4451 is a very close substitute for H4350. It's made by Hogdon and it's what they recommend as a substitute for their own H4350.
Reloader 19, Varget and Vihtavouri 550 have all worked well for me; but I'm stuck on H4350 because it works well for several of my rifles. The Reloader powders are a little more temperature sensitive than I prefer with our HOT Texas summers and the Viht powders are pricey. I'd have ZERO hesitation trying the IMR4451, though. In fact, I was about to buy some before I decided to make a last-ditch effort to find some more H4350
The H4895 you've been using is designed for reduced recoil/youth loads - hardly something the 6.5 Creedmoor needs. I've never heard of anyone using that powder in a 6.5. Just my curiosity- how did you come to use H4895??
I think you'll like ANY of the powders that folks on here recommend. Come on over to the reloading section and you'll find lots of help with your loading! Trial and error is educational but there are so many great reloaders willing to help, you'll really benefit and the learning curve won't be as steep.....or dangerous.
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Wow. GREAT info. Thanks alot! The reason I got the 4895 is becoz they had it at the local gunshot and it was one that was on my list in my manual. I had no idea about all the differences. Really appreciating all the help I'm gttn on here tho. Thanks again!
