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Re: NF NPR1 reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bolt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems most are switching to NPR1 reticle instead of the mildot when purchasing a NF scope. All of my scopes are mildot & am fixing to buy a new NF & would like to know why. Thanks Bolt56 </div></div>
The R1 is in MOA's and I have one and really like it however your better off going with the MLR if you want to stay mil/mil in a Nightforce
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bolt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems most are switching to NPR1 reticle instead of the mildot when purchasing a NF scope. All of my scopes are mildot & am fixing to buy a new NF & would like to know why. Thanks Bolt56 </div></div>
The R1 is in MOA's and I have one and really like it however your better off going with the MLR if you want to stay mil/mil in a Nightforce
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
I have never understood mildot as a better reticle, although I sat throughout the class in school. I see MOA as a winner FOR ME. Personal preference. I just know that the .25moa adjustments as most seen are finer and more precise than .1mil.
I have never understood mildot as a better reticle, although I sat throughout the class in school. I see MOA as a winner FOR ME. Personal preference. I just know that the .25moa adjustments as most seen are finer and more precise than .1mil.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
People are changing to shoot matched turrets and reticles much more these days. The old idea of a mil-dot reticle and MOA turrets is cumbersome and a lot of guys are now realizing this.
My advice every time someone asks what to do with a new scope purchase is this:
1) Reticle subtension and turret subtension must match
2) Hash reticles like the MLR and NP-R1/2's seem much easier to work with than the classic mil-dot, as such make sure you take a look at them in depth.
3) Pick a system and stick to it (if you have 5 MOA scopes already stick to it. Likewise with milliradian, if you have 'em already keep them.)
If you're getting into this from the first start then I usually try to teach the process in MOA. The simple reason is that for estimating numbers and following concepts it seems easier to work in inches per hundred yards (IPHY) as opposed to anything else, and MOA can be estimated in IPHY for conversation sake and conceptualization.
People are changing to shoot matched turrets and reticles much more these days. The old idea of a mil-dot reticle and MOA turrets is cumbersome and a lot of guys are now realizing this.
My advice every time someone asks what to do with a new scope purchase is this:
1) Reticle subtension and turret subtension must match
2) Hash reticles like the MLR and NP-R1/2's seem much easier to work with than the classic mil-dot, as such make sure you take a look at them in depth.
3) Pick a system and stick to it (if you have 5 MOA scopes already stick to it. Likewise with milliradian, if you have 'em already keep them.)
If you're getting into this from the first start then I usually try to teach the process in MOA. The simple reason is that for estimating numbers and following concepts it seems easier to work in inches per hundred yards (IPHY) as opposed to anything else, and MOA can be estimated in IPHY for conversation sake and conceptualization.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
My NXS is with them at the moment being changed from Mildot to NPR1 at the moment. A combination of matching reticle to turret and realising the Mildot might be great for LEO or Military but for those with time to engage and a desire for increased accuracy i felt the change was necessary. Get the mildot read slightly wrong and while you can still hit a large target you can't be precise without a lot of training and guidance.
My NXS is with them at the moment being changed from Mildot to NPR1 at the moment. A combination of matching reticle to turret and realising the Mildot might be great for LEO or Military but for those with time to engage and a desire for increased accuracy i felt the change was necessary. Get the mildot read slightly wrong and while you can still hit a large target you can't be precise without a lot of training and guidance.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
depends on what you like to shoot, i use both systems, but i find moa easier. i like to think about it like cutting a board, i would prefer to use inches. the npr1 is an easy reticle to range moa with, but both systems work well with a little practice.
depends on what you like to shoot, i use both systems, but i find moa easier. i like to think about it like cutting a board, i would prefer to use inches. the npr1 is an easy reticle to range moa with, but both systems work well with a little practice.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
We sell more MLR (MIL System) over the NPR1 (MOA System). There are a lot of guys out there that like the MOA system and it works well for them. I prefer the the MIL system over the MOA. With this said we sell more NPR1 over the MIL-DOT.
Mike @ CST
We sell more MLR (MIL System) over the NPR1 (MOA System). There are a lot of guys out there that like the MOA system and it works well for them. I prefer the the MIL system over the MOA. With this said we sell more NPR1 over the MIL-DOT.
Mike @ CST
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I too prefer MOA as that is what I have spent my entire shooting life using and I am comfortable with it. As long as everything matches, I see no real bonus for either system. It is what you know and feel comfortable using IMO.
I measure everything in inches, as this is what I have been taught since childhood. I still measure my boards in inches when I am in the woodshop.
I too prefer MOA as that is what I have spent my entire shooting life using and I am comfortable with it. As long as everything matches, I see no real bonus for either system. It is what you know and feel comfortable using IMO.
I measure everything in inches, as this is what I have been taught since childhood. I still measure my boards in inches when I am in the woodshop.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
I drank the kool aid, i have 1 NP-R2 and 2 NP-R1 reticles... in the process of getting another for my 556, not sure if i want to try the velocity reticle or get another NP-R2.
I drank the kool aid, i have 1 NP-R2 and 2 NP-R1 reticles... in the process of getting another for my 556, not sure if i want to try the velocity reticle or get another NP-R2.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I drank the kool aid, i have 1 NP-R2 and 2 NP-R1 reticles... in the process of getting another for my 556, not sure if i want to try the velocity reticle or get another NP-R2. </div></div>
I have a 2.5-10x32 NPR2 on my AR15 in 223 and I was using it to successfully engage plates at 600yd using only hold overs with an XM193 clone ammo I load for plinking. After 600 it was very difficult because they didn't seem to transition to subsonic well, but until that point the scope worked very well.
100yd zero
+1 to 200
+1 more to 300
+2 more to 400
+3 more to 500
+3 more to 600
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I drank the kool aid, i have 1 NP-R2 and 2 NP-R1 reticles... in the process of getting another for my 556, not sure if i want to try the velocity reticle or get another NP-R2. </div></div>
I have a 2.5-10x32 NPR2 on my AR15 in 223 and I was using it to successfully engage plates at 600yd using only hold overs with an XM193 clone ammo I load for plinking. After 600 it was very difficult because they didn't seem to transition to subsonic well, but until that point the scope worked very well.
100yd zero
+1 to 200
+1 more to 300
+2 more to 400
+3 more to 500
+3 more to 600
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
I have two 5.5-22, one with NPR1 and one mil/minute. I prefer the NPR1 because I've never trained myself to think in mils. I think the mil scope, with it's dot-within-a-dot, allows better reticle ranging though.
1911fan
I have two 5.5-22, one with NPR1 and one mil/minute. I prefer the NPR1 because I've never trained myself to think in mils. I think the mil scope, with it's dot-within-a-dot, allows better reticle ranging though.
1911fan
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I shot NRA/CMP highpower for many years and know my come-ups and wind dope for M852/M118LR and Mk262 type ammo in moa's since that is what the rifles had for rear sight adjustments. I got the NPR1 reticle with moa knobs to accomodate that. Something about an old dog and new tricks comes to mind.
I shot NRA/CMP highpower for many years and know my come-ups and wind dope for M852/M118LR and Mk262 type ammo in moa's since that is what the rifles had for rear sight adjustments. I got the NPR1 reticle with moa knobs to accomodate that. Something about an old dog and new tricks comes to mind.
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I like MOA for target shooting, and am generally more familiar with it. I have the NPR1 and love it. If they ever come out with something like an npr1-1(?) With one MOA subtensions on windage as well I'd be all over it.
I like MOA for target shooting, and am generally more familiar with it. I have the NPR1 and love it. If they ever come out with something like an npr1-1(?) With one MOA subtensions on windage as well I'd be all over it.
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tangodown911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have never understood mildot as a better reticle, although I sat throughout the class in school. I see MOA as a winner FOR ME. Personal preference. I just know that the .25moa adjustments as most seen are finer and more precise than .1mil. </div></div>
Sure, but can you hold .25 moa?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tangodown911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have never understood mildot as a better reticle, although I sat throughout the class in school. I see MOA as a winner FOR ME. Personal preference. I just know that the .25moa adjustments as most seen are finer and more precise than .1mil. </div></div>
Sure, but can you hold .25 moa?
Re: NF NPR1 reticle
We had a stage at LRA last weekend that had 4? UKD targets and we were given 60 or 90 seconds to get down and range, time called, and then individually got down in 60 seconds to engage 1 or 2 rounds, I can't remember.
They were 8", 10", and 12" steel circles and increasing ranges, plus a bonus.
After the ranging session, I picked my head up and looked back behind the line. There was a freakin frenzy of mildot masters sliding, notepads flipping, and calculators being punched. I don't want to be a part of that frenzy and I don't shoot 3 days a week to have that stored in my head.
Whether mil, moa, or radian of duck, a matching system seems to lend itself to ease of use.
We had a stage at LRA last weekend that had 4? UKD targets and we were given 60 or 90 seconds to get down and range, time called, and then individually got down in 60 seconds to engage 1 or 2 rounds, I can't remember.
They were 8", 10", and 12" steel circles and increasing ranges, plus a bonus.
After the ranging session, I picked my head up and looked back behind the line. There was a freakin frenzy of mildot masters sliding, notepads flipping, and calculators being punched. I don't want to be a part of that frenzy and I don't shoot 3 days a week to have that stored in my head.
Whether mil, moa, or radian of duck, a matching system seems to lend itself to ease of use.
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That kool-aid must have tasted pretty good to me. I have 2 NP-R1's that I like and would not hesitate to use another. I don't see where I give up anything to the mil system as long as the turrets match up.
That kool-aid must have tasted pretty good to me. I have 2 NP-R1's that I like and would not hesitate to use another. I don't see where I give up anything to the mil system as long as the turrets match up.
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