Rifle Scopes NF Reticle Focus

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Hi All,

Long time lurker first time poster who is very new to shooting.

Yesterday I received a new NightForce NXS 3.5-15x50 and got it mounted on my rifle. I then went through the process of making the reticle focus adjustments, as instructed, against a plain white wall. Yet now when I look at a target through the scope, either the target or the reticle is slightly blurry depending on where I focus. If I focus on the reticle it is clear but the target behind is slightly blurry, or if I focus on the target the reticle becomes slightly blurry. Yet both are never clear at the same time. Is this blur normal or should I focus the reticle some more such that both the target and reticle are both clear?

Also note that I have astigmatism and always wear corrective glasses. I wore them when making the adjustments and wear them when dry firing/shooting.

Thanks,
Brian
 
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You probably aren't going to get a perfectly clear image at 25 ft no matter how hard you try, it's simply a limitation of the scope's design. The minimum distance to get parallax free is about 50 meters and while turning the magnification down to its lowest setting can help with some targets closer than that there is a limit.

Wait...where'd his last reply go?
 
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one thing to keep in mind is that NF has very very fine threads on the eye piece focus. You really have to spend a lot of time to get it perfectly focused to your eye. Try it in a vise looking at the plain sky, no clouds or anything. Highest power and parralax at infinity. Screw eye piece all the way out then work it back in slowly while constantly looking away at a distant object with the naked eye to keep your eye from adapting to the out of focus reticle.
 
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Tigger Monkey that is a good catch. Upon further inspection it appears that I had the parallax set at the wrong setting when I originally did the reticle focus. I will redo the reticle focus again with the correct parallax settings and then see how things turn out!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You probably aren't going to get a perfectly clear image at 25 ft no matter how hard you try, it's simply a limitation of the scope's design. The minimum distance to get parallax free is about 50 meters and while turning the magnification down to its lowest setting can help with some targets closer than that there is a limit.

Wait...where'd his last reply go? </div></div>

I deleted it as I wanted to double check what I had posted was accurate! It was only up for about 1 minute, you guys respond very fast!

That is good to know about the 50 ft and the parallax. I will try and redo the focus as with the correct parallax settings. Then tomorrow, weather permitting, I will take it out to a range and then do the final adjustment.

BK
 
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One trick I use, for diopter setting, is to use a double layer of white paper towels. Rubber band them over your scope, shine a flash light into it, and voila. You can really nail the diopter this way.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: netranger6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One trick I use, for diopter setting, is to use a double layer of white paper towels. Rubber band them over your scope, shine a flash light into it, and voila. You can really nail the diopter this way.</div></div>

Great tip. Thanks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DamnYuppie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi All,

Long time lurker first time poster who is very new to shooting.

Yesterday I received a new NightForce NXS 3.5-15x50 and got it mounted on my rifle. I then went through the process of making the reticle focus adjustments, as instructed, against a plain white wall. Yet now when I look at a target through the scope, either the target or the reticle is slightly blurry depending on where I focus. If I focus on the reticle it is clear but the target behind is slightly blurry, or if I focus on the target the reticle becomes slightly blurry. Yet both are never clear at the same time. Is this blur normal or should I focus the reticle some more such that both the target and reticle are both clear?

Also note that I have astigmatism and always wear corrective glasses. I wore them when making the adjustments and wear them when dry firing/shooting.

Thanks,
Brian </div></div>
Hi Brian,

Welcome to Sniper's Hide'. Adjusting the Ocular Lens (aka the <span style="font-style: italic">"Diopter", or "eyepiece"</span>), on a firearm scope is the first thing that should be done after the scope has been mounted and leveled. Unfortunately, the Nightforce Owner's Manual does a poor job of detailing the correct procedure. Instructing people to <span style="font-style: italic">"look through the riflescope eyepiece at a light colored background such as a white wall..."</span> isn't the best way to focus the ocular / diopter / eyepiece.

Why? Because the best way to adjust the reticle is to adjust it <span style="font-style: italic">without distraction</span> to the eye, and the best way to eliminate any distraction is to have nothing else in the view except the reticle. This is why the Ocular should be adjusted while viewing the reticle against a cloudless sky (or at least a clear area of the sky). A blank wall is "OK", but clear sky is best because the reticle will be the only visible object within view.

Below is <span style="font-weight: bold">the</span> correct procedure for Diopter (Ocular/Eyepiece) adjustment for both fixed and variable power scopes. The procedure is the same regardless of scope manufacturer, or whether the objective/parallax focus is on the objective ring or is a side focus type.

<span style="font-weight: bold">NOTE:</span> If the scope is a fixed power unit skip steps 1 and 2 as they do not apply.

(1) Turn the magnification ring to maximum (highest power).

(2) Turn the Parallax focus to "Infinity" (the symbol for Infinity looks like a figure eight). <span style="font-weight: bold">NOTE:</span> Most non-side focus scopes use a ring on the objective bell to adjust parallax, and the distances are usually numbered. Side focus parallax adjustment knobs may or may not have distances marked.

(3) Turn the ocular bell/eyepiece all the way in.

(4) Aim the scope at a cloudless section of the sky (you don't want anything except sky in the view, or else your eye will naturally attempt to focus on the object in the view beyond the reticle.

(5) Look at something nearby, but not too close, then look through the scope at the reticle. If the reticle is out-of-focus turn it a bit to begin to focusing the reticle, but look away from the scope. <span style="font-weight: bold">Never look at the reticle for more than a couple of seconds when adjusting the eyepiece</span> (if you look at the reticle for more than a second or two your eye will naturally begin to adjust to bring the reticle into focus - and you don't want this to happen. <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">You want to be able to look through the scope and see a sharply focused reticle immediately with your eye relaxed</span></span>. This cannot be achieved by continuously looking through the scope and turning the eyepiece into focus in one continous motion because your eye will have already begun to adjust.

<span style="font-style: italic">Remember, look away every few seconds and make small adjustments to dial-in the Ocular/Eyepiece focus.</span> Once you have achieved this, you should not adjust the eyepiece at all, <span style="font-style: italic">except to maintain sharp reticle focus</span> as your vision changes over time <span style="font-style: italic">(it always does).</span> You may want to put a pen mark on the eyepiece indexed to the index dot on the scope tube - if the tube doesn't have an index mark use a pencil. That way, if someone else shoots your rifle and adjusts the Ocular you know where to return the adjustment to.

However, if you still cannot achieve simultaneous reticle and image focus after following the above directions for Eyepiece/Ocular Focus, it is <span style="font-style: italic">possible</span> that there is a problem with the scope. That said, it should be noted that <span style="font-style: italic">setting the diopter at the extreme end of it's adjustment range in either direction can affect the image focus.</span>


Keith
 
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Aries64 thanks for the detailed response. I redid the diopter adjustments yesterday against a wall and it seems to be much better. I will, however, attempt the method you describe once I get a clear day hear, stupid rain!

Thanks,
Brian
 
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Success! I finally got a clear day here and was able to focus the diopter against a clear blue sky. It was much clearer and easier to see as opposed to when I had done it on the white wall.

I also was able to sight in at some ranged objects and both the reticle and target were crystal clear. I am very pleased with the results and am loving the NightForce now
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Thanks for all the great feedback, it was very helpful and much appreciated!

Brian