Rifle Scopes NF Turrents in MIL

[ah141nj]

Finally looking to buy a Nightforce scope. After reading countless threads on MOA vs MIL reticles, want to go with the MIL.

Does NF come equipped with MIL hash mark turrents when buying a scope with a Mil Dot reticle?

 

[71firebird400]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

You can get them either way (MOA or Mil). If this is an SFP scope, I'd recommend the MLR over the Mil-Dot. If it's an F1 (FFP) then look at the MLR2.

 

[vman]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

Yes you can buy MOA turrets (or mil) and have a different reticle. This makes no sense and makes the reticle useless.

You need to specify at the time of purchase or ordering what turret types and reticle you want.

If your going mil get the MLR or Mil Dot.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

WTF is a turrent?

 

[frankythefly]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

A cigar, or in this case he refers to turret

But back to the topic I would go for the F1 in MLR2, Also be advised that some secret NF scope is coming close to being unveiled and maybe wait for that to come out.

 

[Fieldman_.308]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes you can buy MOA turrets (or mil) and have a different reticle. This makes no sense and makes the reticle useless.

You need to specify at the time of purchase or ordering what turret types and reticle you want.

If your going mil get the MLR or Mil Dot. </div></div>

I don't think it makes it useless, but it does make it a bigger pain to range your targets, or to "hold over". I do agree with mil reticle with mil turrets or moa reticle with moa turrets. Makes ranging your engagements a lot simpler. You can use a mil reticle with an moa turret as long as you don't mind converting one to the other. YIKES!

 

[TonyAngel]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

Unless I've missed the bus, having a mil reticle and moa turrets or vice versa does not affect the difficulty in ranging or holdovers. It just makes it a bit more of a PITA when you have to convert so that you can dial in.

 

[wfjames22]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fieldman_.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think it makes it useless, but it does make it a bigger pain to range your targets, or to "hold over". I do agree with mil reticle with mil turrets or moa reticle with moa turrets. Makes ranging your engagements a lot simpler. You can use a mil reticle with an moa turret as long as you don't mind converting one to the other. YIKES! </div></div>

How do your turret values affect hold over or ranging targets?

More like YIKES, I dont know WTF Im talking about. Another useless post, surely you will have some threads in the WTS areas before long.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

The reticle not matching the adjustments does not make the reticle useless, nor does it make you holdovers any harder if you have an understanding of the relationship.

-print dope in mil/moa
-hold what you see for corrections
-log what you see in data book and adjust dope in both later

no "yikes" necessary, people were getting shit done with mil/moa scopes for a long time before anyone in the us did mil/mil.

Granted it isn't ideal, but I'm getting tired of folks acting like a quality mil/moa scope is junk. Trust me, a good mid-level mil/moa scope will knock the shit out of a cheap mil/mil scope any day.

And no matter what ANYONE says-folks with mil/mil that have shot for any time still convert in their head, consciously or not. Try estimating the speed of a mover without going to a linear conversion.

For the best possible results, gain a working understanding of all the information you can.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fieldman_.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but it does <span style="color: #3366FF">make it a bigger pain to range your targets</span>, or to "hold over".
I do agree with mil reticle with mil turrets or moa reticle with moa turrets. <span style="color: #3333FF">Makes ranging your engagements a lot simpler.</span> You can use a mil reticle with an moa turret as long as you don't mind converting one to the other. YIKES! </div></div>
and really-FNG from OK-<span style="font-style: italic">what the hell does matching turrets and adjustments have to do with ranging at all?? </span>

 

[Fieldman_.308]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

Hey guys,I'm not claiming to be a f*cking sniper here and with my limited knowledge I could be wrong for sure. If I am wrong then please redirect me. Don't be fricken pricks. I thought that if you use your mil reticle to range targets and you have a mil/mil scope it takes one less calculation outf between ranging and dial in. I actually stated that I thought mil/moa scopes were NOT useless, but that you would have to convert after ranging to make the appropriate dial in. Sorry If I'm not clarifying it correctly. Please let me know if I'm wrong. I am still really new to this, but I'm trying to learn. Back to the original post, for me, I like the mil/mil because it makes it easier for me. Sorry guys for the retardation.

 

[steve123]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ah141nj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally looking to buy a Nightforce scope. After reading countless threads on MOA vs MIL reticles, want to go with the MIL.

Does NF come equipped with MIL hash mark turrents when buying a scope with a Mil Dot reticle?

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I'll help you with your "turrent" torment dilemma.

My advice...Get a NF F1 with 10mil knobs(high speed},ZS and mil reticle with MLR2 or H-58.I just bought one here a few weeks ago with the H-58 reticle.Some of my other stuff went up for sale because I'd like another one.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: NF Turrents in MIL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fieldman_.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I thought that if you use your mil reticle to range targets and you have a mil/mil scope it takes one less calculation outf between ranging and dial in. </div></div>

-Ranging gives you distance.
-Look at DOPE sheet (in whatever measurements your turrets are) to match distance to adjustment needed
-Dial needed elevation (alternatively-hold over in reticle, this is why you have DOPE in both if you have a mil/moa scope)
-Fire using proper recoil management to see your impact
-If a miss, hold what you saw and reengage
-If a miss, note conditions and where round went in your data book

I appreciate you aren't a f@cking sniper, and neither are the majority of the 40,000+ members on this forum (including myself).
If you are new and don't have a full grasp on the concepts you may wish to post as such, ie-"I'm no expert but it seems to me from what I understand so far the..." (just a suggestion-works in a lot of areas of life as well).

I may have been a dick (not the first time), but I am more than happy to share what little knowledge I do have. With the list of gear in your signature I figured you might know what ranging is and how it applies to your shooting.

To the original poster and topic: I agree 100% with steve123. The high speed mil turrets would be the way to go with a mil reticle in a Nightforce.