Hello guys I’m new to this forum and hate to start it of with a vs thread. I’m looking for a really good optic to run on my ar 15. I’m stuck between the Nightforce Atacr 1-8 and the new upcoming Schmidt and Bender 1-8 dual cc. Both seem to be awsome I’m mainly looking for something I can reach out 300-400 yards and can also use to train for some CQB drills. I’m not the best at anything but now I have the chance to get me a good optic and I don’t want to regret it after. Thanks in advance.
Rifle Scopes Nightforce Atacr 1-8 vs Schmidt and Bender PM II ShortDot Dual CC 1-8
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While I don’t have the Atacr, I do have the NXS 1-8 and I’m quite happy with it. Not that I’m much help but if the Atacr is better glass or features, I don’t think you can go wrong.
That’s what I’m actually looking at now. I kind of like the reticle from Nightforce more as the one from Schmidt I feel I might have a hard time seeing through it.
I have used the 1-4 cqb for years, some bitch about the reticle, I really like it. The 8x - I’d think the extra mag would help to alleviate those criticisms?
so the Schmidt comes with a mil dot reticle and I feel it’s hard to pick up the hash marks or dots whatever they are called
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I gotta be honest, I am sure that 8x is all that and a bag of chips, but I am not sure I could do it over the 4x. I have them on a gp 12.5 and 16. To me they are outstanding for GP from room distance to @ 500 or so. While it isn't easy to fractionalize the stadia at a distance, it is certainly possible, up close the dot is aim point bright and has plenty of room in the eye box. They aren't all that bad behind a pvs30 either. Maybe it is just me, but if I want more than than 4x / that distance / ability to resolve / precision - I want a different rifle / optic.
ps - I would not want a plain Jane Mil Dot myself.
YMMV
ps - I would not want a plain Jane Mil Dot myself.
YMMV
S&B vs ATACR........though choice I wouldn't want to part with the 3-27 or 7-35.
The S&B has been elusive in coming to market. When it does, the price is pretty steep. The ATACR, in my opinion, meanwhile, has proven itself to own the 1-8x space. I have handled both, and the NF has a far larger eye box, making two-eye open point and shoot as easy as an Aimpoint red dot. I like the dual reticle of the S&B, but at low magnifications, it might not be as needed.
Like both, but my vote is with the ATACR.
Like both, but my vote is with the ATACR.
@Michael_Lucero there's some great LPVO's in that price range and we'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons of them at 916-670-1103 
Post up a review and some pictures when you get it. From what I’ve been reading you made a great choice. I’m considering one of these down the road a bit.
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