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Rifle Scopes Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I have a Remington 700 SPS Tactical with a Buckmaster 3-9X40 BDC. Im thinking about purchasing a Mil Dot Buckmaster 6-18X40 because I love the Nikon quality and clarity and want more magnification. It also comes with target turrets and a shade. The only thing that worries me are the 1/8MOA Clicks. What are your opinions on this scope and why or why wouldnt you purchase it? It runs 309$ on MidwayUSA.
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Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

308shooter,

I guess it would depend on what you use your SPS Tactical for. I use my tactical style rifles for Tactical Comps and some hunting.

I would have no use for a scope that: Is SFP; has mixed MIL/MOA adjustments; uses 0.125" clicks; and has only 50 MOA of adjustment.

Rather for my uses, I like: FFP, MIL/MIL adjustments; 0.36" clicks; and has at least 65 MOA or more of adjustment.

I would think a scope as the Buckmaster 6-18x40mm could find a place on a rifle used for centerfire target shooting at modest known ranges or for a 22 target rimfire use. But utility much beyond those uses escapes me.

Putting it another way, you define your particular need or use, first, and then price out scopes that will meet those needs.

But you don't pick a scope on a price point, and then try to shoehorn it into fitting those needs.

IMHO and YMMV,

Bob
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

Thanks BobinNC. I will mainly be using it for target shooting, hopefully out to 1000yd but mostly 100-300yrds. I hope to get into hunting, so it will be used for that as well. There will be no law enforcement or tactical application unless we are invaded by China, LOL. What do u think?
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

It easily fits a use I have. I put that exact scope minus the mildot on a Remmy VSSF chambered in .223. Not crazy bout the 1/8 clicks but for range use it isn't a problem for me and is even prefered by some. The scope tracks very well, turrets are sharp and audible, typical Nikon clearity and holds zero. I've owned it for 4 or 5 years and am very happy with its performance.

okie
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I bought that scope as well. Its only at midway. MIl-dot, side focus and clear glass--tough to beat for $300. Currently it sits on top of my 22lr trainer. The 1/8 clicks are annoying but, they also help dial in a 22 caliber bullet at short ranges like 50yrds. Not sure of the internal adjustment but I use a 20MOA base and have no problem getting from 50 to 210 yards.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I run the 4.5-14 on my 300 win mag.

Enough elevation to 900 yards with a 20MOA base. Tracks better than I can shoot, and glass is clear enough (although I rate vx3 leupold better)

chris
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I had one just like that, and it was a great scope for the money. Only thing I didn't like was the 1/8 clicks, and it seemed like it had a narrow field of view. Had a hard time picking up running critters, even on its lowest power.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I have the 4.5-14x mildot model which is similar, and did a lot of checking on the very model you're looking at before snagging a Vortex Viper instead. The Buckmaster tracks very well, and the glass is decent for the price. Like the rest of the Buckmaster/Omega/TurkeyPro lines, it will develop a bit more tunnel vision than other brands of scopes, due to Nikon's design (a narrower field stop aperture I believe). The offset for this is that it has considerable depth of field, but a small apparent FOV.
The side parallax adjustment works very well.
The mil reticle is in the SFP as mentioned. You can only use it to range at 12x unless you want to factor the subtension changes into your ranging math.
You'll get both low, high profile and wide target turrets with the 6-18x, which is nice.
With its narrow FOV and higher power, its primary purpose is as a varmint rifle scope. With the 1/8 MOA clicks,it's optimal for hitting very small targets at medium ranges, rather than large targets at very long range like a true tactical scope. When shooting at a 3" wide prairie dog at 300yds, 1/4" MOA adjustments are just a bit on the coarse side (though certainly workable). For an 18" target at 1000yds on the other hand, 1/8 MOA clicks would be awful. You'd have to spin that turret like a roulette wheel.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

Who cares what size clicks it is?

Really that only matters if your shooting when it's pitch dark and have to COUNT clicks.

No body in real world long range shooting counts clicks. Look at the numbered scale. Make your scope correction by the scale.

if you need to go up 28 minutes, then turn the thing up 28 minutes, per the graduated turret scale. if you need to go up 28.25 minutes, go up 28 plus 2 little lines. Big deal. ?

Yes, you'll feel more tactile clicks than a guy that has a 1/4 moa turret but who cares? it's just a feeling and feelings are fickle or so my high school guidance counselor told me.

I'd far rather have finer clicks than I preferred than coarser clicks than I preferred.

The buckmaster series of scopes is a heck of a lot of scope for the money. I tell my guys I do gun work for "I'll work on it so long as it has a Buckmaster or better sitting in the rings."

Dollar for Dollar that's the best scope on the market.

Grab it and a sloped base and shoot man!

Have fun!
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I run farrel. Only $110 and I know its perfect. 20MOA steel, on a 300 win mag.

Defintely get a 20MOA base, if its too much, deal with it then, but the tradeoff with all nikons is the adjustment.

My nikon does not tunnel at all, and all the ones I have seen do not tunnel, however the FOV is pretty tiny, but its just another one of those tradeoffs you have to make if you want a cheap scope.

My nikon is very hard to see through at dusk, so much that I cant go higher than 4 power, so rabbits past 200m are safe.

If your willing to make a couple of small compromises, its worth 2x the money they charge for them, I got mine off ebay for $200 i think (non mildot) NIB, second hand. I'll probably buy another when I get sick of this falcon.

Chris
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

308,

If your budget turns you towards a N.Buckmaster, then same budget would probably be very pleased with a EGW 20moa pickle base for a Remmy 700. = $40. Yes, get the sloped one. You may not be able to zero @ 100 yards, but a long range rig should be zero'd no closer than 200 yds really anyway IMHO. You got a mil reticle, just hold under if you need to make 100 yd shots.

http://egw-guns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39_128&products_id=180

I have had two (on my Savage- both a 0 moa & a 20 moa, [but not at the same time]) and have nothing but perfect service out of both.

Tres
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I have 2 of the buck master 6x18x40's and love them. one is on a .308 bdc reticle and the other on a .300wm mil-dot.

I have shot my .308 out to 807 yards with a 0moa base and had just enough elevation to get their. I added a 20moa base and have plenty of elevation for over 1000 yard's now. I had the rifle 0 @ 100 yards adjusted to 807 shot it and adjusted it back to 100 and it shot dead on were i had it sighted in at before moving it.

Ive had the one on my .308 for over 2 years now with now problems. i just got one from midway in the mil-dot and put it on my .300wm that just blowed up on me the other day due to no flash hole in hornady ammo.

Plus the one i got from midway had a offer for a free mil-dot master.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kickinneon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just got one from midway in the mil-dot and put it on my .300wm that just blowed up on me the other day due to no flash hole in hornady ammo.
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Wholly shit? Pics?
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crnkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kickinneon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i just got one from midway in the mil-dot and put it on my .300wm that just blowed up on me the other day due to no flash hole in hornady ammo.
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Wholly shit? Pics? </div></div>

Here are some pics.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...914#Post2292914
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I'm running that optic on my 17 FB XP-100 prairie dog killer, and it's accounted for some 1st-shot PD's out to ~500 yds. in <10 mph winds evem with the lowly 25 Horn. HP. I run turret for elevation and reticle for windage at 18x where the mil becomes 2.4 IPHY between 1/2" dots (mrad is cald. for 12 in most Nikon otpics)--

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It's almost as much fun shooting PD's at 500 yds. on 1st-shots with a 17 doping wind with the mil-dot as it is 30 cals at 1000--and a lot cheaper.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

If you want to get to 1000yds with a 308W the scope may get you there with a 20moa base. For hunting and shooting 100-300 probably more than adequate and would serve you well. For competition even on a 22 trainer I would have to say a qualified no. There is a prepoderance of these exact scopes at our 22TSC match in Conover NC and EVERY competitor that uses this scope has lost their place in the adjustments during a match. A couple have sought my advice on how to prevent this problem, when presented with a solution they invariably balk at the notion that they bought the wrong scope for the application. Bob summed it up best, don't decide on a price and find a scope that fits that price range. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
The scope will likely be fine for your needs but it is not a serious 1000yd scope.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I have that scope on a Rem 700 5R 308 until I get another NF. Great scope but I can't get to 1000 yds with mine and I load 155gr. SMK's I need 36 moa and only have 32 with a NF 20 moa base. I have had it for 4 or 5 years and it still tracks well definitely worth the money, but the 6 moa per turn does suck.
 
Re: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 with 1/8MOA? HELP???

I was planning on using Spot On software to calculate the reticle bullet drop. But now that I know how to dial in the elevation I'll just us max magnification at long ranges and dial in the distance. Oh, The mil setting is at 12X