No Concentration Camps Here

I absolutely cannot imagine what they must have endured.

There are some good books you can read by those that lived through it.
They will give you a very good clear idea of what it was like. And it may surprise you also how life and humanity can go on despite all the horror surrounding you.
 
All the camps best guess, killed btw 15 and 20 million.
Historically, Roma, Poles, Homosexuals, mentals, Russian POWs, and Jews.
Jews were 90% of the deaths, according to the best governmental figures, estimates, guesstimates, whatever.

The somewhere above post conflicts with this group of accepted figures.

Stalin is credited with 20 million, Mao is credited with 45 million.

All communist countries credited with a combined 110 million. Said post conflicts with these accepted numbers.

PolPot, our next most recognizable murderer was credited with 1.5 to 2.5 million. Somehow, those facts fail to compute with said post.

The judge in charging the jury, said, "If you find the testimony from the witness to be false, you may discard that part, or in good conscience, you may discard all that testimony."

In good conscience, just sayin...

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And just for the record, Polish Jews put up a hell of a fight, and the Polish Brigades formed organized fighting units with other countries to fight in WW2, those are FACTS, so, perhaps the facts disagree again, with that somewhere above statement.
 
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All the camps best guess, killed btw 15 and 20 million.
Historically, Roma, Poles, Homosexuals, mentals, Russian POWs, and Jews.
Jews were 90% of the deaths, according to the best governmental figures, estimates, guesstimates, whatever.

The somewhere above post conflicts with this group of accepted figures.

Stalin is credited with 20 million, Mao is credited with 45 million.

All communist countries credited with a combined 110 million. Said post conflicts with these accepted numbers.

PolPot, our next most recognizable murderer was credited with 1.5 to 2.5 million. Somehow, those facts fail to compute with said post.

The judge in charging the jury, said, "If you find the testimony from the witness to be false, you may discard that part, or in good conscience, you may discard all that testimony."

In good conscience, just sayin...

ymmv
vr

And just for the record, Polish Jews put up a hell of a fight, and the Polish Brigades formed organized fighting units with other countries to fight in WW2, those are FACTS, so, perhaps the facts disagree again, with that somewhere above statement.


20th century deaths by totalitarian governments...More than the death tolls of the Plague of Justinian, the Black Death, and the Plague of London combined...
 
And I been to a few camps in Germany.
My grandfather survived them (and he honestly never talked much about it) but he brought his wife to America (legally) busted his ass the rest of his life and made something of himself....enough to give my father a better life.....and ultimately, me too.
 
Old friend of the family. Old man. Alway sent us passover wine and called dad on Christmas. (Dad was not a Jew) Had the camp tattoo. He was in a camp in Poland .I dont know which one but it was "liberated" by the Russians. This old man, Frank was his name, talked to my dad about his experiences. He had nothing good to say about the Russians either. Eventually he escaped the Russians after surviving the Nazi's and made it to the US. The first thing he did after he started working again was have two diamonds set into his molars so if he had to start over he didn't have to start from nothing again. He's long dead now but I remember his eyes. My dad had him make a ring, which I have now and wear on occasion. Every time I put it on I can see that old mans eyes.
 
MY first job as a kid was cleaning the dough boards and mixers at a bagel store, all the bakers were union bakers from Brooklyn, all jews, most all had tatooed prison numbers from the camps. Jersey jews are a much different animal than the stereotype most people have in their mind.

On my way to Germany in the army, I stopped by to see the owner and his family at the store and we went to a Jewish restaurant called Jackie Coopers where I also worked as a dish washer when I was 14. The owner there the family and about 10 people I worked with at both stores had a huge dinner for me impromptu. They were all sad I was going to Germany, they were all virulent anti communists, the old men veterans, told me if the balloon went up to just kill everyone and look out for me and my squad. Same advice from my own family. I miss the Jersey I grew up in.
 
Growing up in the late 50's and 60's, my dad had a business acquaintance that I think was a Pole or Slav, I don't remember which. Actually, now that I think about it, I believe he was Czech. He had been in one of the camps, don't know if I was ever told which. He was the nicest guy you would ever meet. I remember seeing his number tat on his wrist/forearm and wondering "what that was". I had never been exposed to anything like that and I was so young, I was just beginning to realize the horrors of WWII.

He didn't wave his tat around, but he wasn't shy or ashamed of the sight of it either.

It was there for all to view, but was only observed by those that cared to see.
 
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