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#7
BytorJr said:
You sir, have a much higher opinion of them than I. ;)
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That would depend on my opinion of politicians, they're one step below my ex wife and I would dance a jig if took a long walk off a short dock into lawyer, er, I mean shark infested waters.

It's not my opinion that's so low, it's my expectations that are so high. Journalist is supposed to be an admirable career, I mean shit, even Clark Kent was made out to be a reporter. They've turned to scum, ruined by cable television and the loose regulations on them versus network broadcasts, and all have chased CNN into the abyss of agenda driven ratings and brainless pundits spouting their chosen party line. Now the MSM is as accurate as the penny novels of the 1800s, yet people believe their bullshit knowing it's 98% agenda driven, and for some reason get butt hurt when their favored network steps slightly outside of the party lines.

Long story short, FNC = CNN = MSNBC = Al Jazeera = RT. They're all full of shit and only serve their masters. Don't be a chump.
 
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#13
Conaso said:
Latest tweet, Fox News gets thrown off the MAGA bus.
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have not even turned on FOX news since election night. OAN or Newsmax instead. They decided to betray their base, largely due to their news director, arnon mishkin, slimey as they come. understand that daytime viewership has tanked. thanks to the us patriot on that.
 
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#16
Conaso said:
Yeah, how's that working out?
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  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

pretty damn good so it seems
 
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#17
BOOM!!!!
Looks pretty good to me too!!

But... Muh feewings, he tweteeded, he said mean things. He didn't drain the swamp!!

^^^^^^The rantings of the low info population

mcameron said:
  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

pretty damn good so it seems
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#21
Research every accolade from Trump's website and post the facts, not copy/paste from a pro-Trump political ad. Start with the Veterans' Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014. Was it improved, yes; should Trump get credit, yes. But not for the ** 2014** Act itself. Next, look at the China Tariffs - who paid for those tariffs, China, no (except for lost sales); the American consumer pays for all tariffs to level the field for American products. Was Trump correct about China's unfair trade practices and theft of military secrets and intellectual property, was the trade deficit reduced? YES! Was President Trump wrong about America's immigration policy - no, but where did he get the funds, Mexico - no.

Don't make a promise you can't keep, otherwise, you sound like a Democrat. Cut the B.S.

Was Trump the best candidate in 2015? YES! Was Trump the best candidate in 2020? YES! But, IMO, his rhetoric and TWEETS were inappropriate for a world leader. Comments while sitting at a bar having drinks - no. Was the basis of his comments wrong - rarely. EVERYTHING he says, or does, has an impact, he can never be always 100% right or wrong, or please everyone all the time. If he's wrong he/we should admit it, don't exagerate, don't lie - be better than the opposition.

Don't assume because I criticize something pro-Trump that I'm anti-Trump. If the emperor has no clothes - don't be afraid to constructively criticize. Otherwise, how will President Trump benefit if we act as sycophants and vilify the opposition. He deserves better.

"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." – John Morley, 1st Viscount Morley of Blackburn.

We have to win over the moderates through polite conversation that Trump's/our philosophy is best for the country. Trump's proponents/those right of the fence don't need convincing.

And quit the 2000-style voter fraud allegations unless you can provide evidence, send it to the Trump Reelection people. Otherwise, we sound like the Democrats. Let's get ready for 2024.
 
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#22
Conaso said:
And quit the 2000-style voter fraud allegations unless you can provide evidence, send it to the Trump Reelection people. Otherwise, we sound like the Democrats. Let's get ready for 2024.
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there is evidence.....lots of it actually.....if you watched something other than CNN youd know this.....fuck there is a massive thread on it all in the pit as we speak.


also, you claimed Trump wasnt running the country like a "politician".....just what exactly have "politicians" accomplished in the last 50 yrs thats note worthy?

fuck, trump running the country like a business has done more good in 3.5 yrs than "politicians" have done in the past 5 decades.
 
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#24
Wait just a damn minute here. I was told by a reliable source that he inherited this economy.
mcameron said:
  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

pretty damn good so it seems
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#25
Rthur said:
Go ahead, tell us who your guy is...
Ya know you want to.


R
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I voted for the least crooked candidate(s). Now, do you want me to sew a purple star on my clothes because I don't agree 100% with your world view?

Or, is a forum not for discussion but one for "true believers" to praise each other and crucify those not of the "faith."

Does not the same thing occur on Biden-leaning forums? (Clueless) Joe "Shotgun" Biden is on video promising to put Beto O’Rourke in charge of gun control but later, on video, lies about his gun control philosophy and threatens a man to "step outside." What a "wuss."

I think we should stop beating each other up, have respectful discourse, and determine what we can do to get back the House, win the Presidency, and increase the number of Republicans in the Senate
 
#27
Conaso said:
... as long as they tell your truth?
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Conaso said:
I voted for the least crooked candidate(s). Now, do you want me to sew a purple star on my clothes because I don't agree 100% with your world view?

Or, is a forum not for discussion but one for "true believers" to praise each other and crucify those not of the "faith."

Does not the same thing occur on Biden-leaning forums? (Clueless) Joe "Shotgun" Biden is on video promising to put Beto O’Rourke in charge of gun control but later, on video, lies about his gun control philosophy and threatens a man to "step outside." What a "wuss."

I think we should stop beating each other up, have respectful discourse, and determine what we can do to get back the House, win the Presidency, and increase the number of Republicans in the Senate
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If you look closely you've attacked nothing I posted.
Here you go:
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R
 
#28
Conaso said:
I believe Trump's problem as President is that he's not a politician, bureaucrat, or diplomat and attempts to run the country like a corporation.
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Personally I'm tired of the playing nice with our idealogical enemies. We are still the big guy at the table. I'm glad Trump acts like it when negotiating for my children's future.
 
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#29
Rthur said:
If you look closely you've attacked nothing I posted.
Here you go:
View attachment 7470718

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If you perceived I was "attacking" then I apologize, that was not my intent. But I attempted to point out what I believe were two items, at a minimum, that were somewhat disingenuous. If you can indicate where I am wrong, then I stand corrected. I do believe most accomplishments were accurate, but that requires more research. I believe no matter how accurate my rebuttals, it would not dissuade others from trouncing me. I am surprised responses from some were not vitrolic and/or vulgar.

If 80% of my discussion was inaccurate or exaggerated would that not weaken my whole argument? Does the opposition lie, exaggerate, spread rumors, make up nicknames, etc. - YES. But I believe we are above that.

I believe the Democrats just "got out the vote." Are the Democrat apparatchik more intelligent than Trump and Republicans that evidence cannot be found? More people voted than ever before. That's good - too many people don't give a crap. "Stop the count, stop the vote" - doesn't anyone realize not counting ballots after 8pm, 3 November marginalizes the military who are, I believe, more pro-Republican? Trump said he was more pro-military than anyone else, ever. And I believe also not IAW the law in most states.

Did people not so much vote for a candidate than vote against their opponent. We have to persuade them otherwise rather than beat them into the ground.

You guys can keep "beating a dead horse," I'm going to see what I can do from now until 2024 to put Republicans back in power. Hopefully, they will accomplish great things and not waste efforts like they did in the Bush and Obama years.
 
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