Can you elaborate on where and when this was.
Once again, a war zone is definitely safer than anywhere a cop has a gun out. See thread posted a few days ago on cops.
Once again, a war zone is definitely safer than anywhere a cop has a gun out. See thread posted a few days ago on cops.
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot........Over
Seriously...WTF
Did the zombie plague start already and the government is keeping it hush hush? And that was Patient Zero who had managed to get out of the research facility? If it is, then fine. If he is not one of the undead legions that eats brains and takes multiple rounds + sledgehammers to put down, then there is some explainin' to do.
Seriously...WTF
Did the zombie plague start already and the government is keeping it hush hush? And that was Patient Zero who had managed to get out of the research facility? If it is, then fine. If he is not one of the undead legions that eats brains and takes multiple rounds + sledgehammers to put down, then there is some explainin' to do.
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Bad shoot, apparently. Jury awarded the mother 360k.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...lled-by-Orange-County-Sheriffs-504726332.html
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oc-sheriff-shooting-court-20171101-story.html
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...lled-by-Orange-County-Sheriffs-504726332.html
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oc-sheriff-shooting-court-20171101-story.html
Can't wait to see how this plays out . Maybe it's the new CPR ( Continous Pouncing Riverdance ) .
Should be charged and convicted on whatever a private citizen would get for pulling that shit.
Even if a homeowner shoots dead an armed perp who had already broken in, if he shoots him again and that next GSW is confirmed in postmortem exams, that homeowner is going to be facing HELL in court.
There was a discussion on TFL's Tactics & Training sub-board regarding firing 'anchor' shots into a criminal that is already down and shooting fleeing perps from behind......There were some ninjas who said that they saw no problem with shooting a downed and unarmed intruder and the rest of the board basically told them that they are just asking for surprise buttsex from Bubba...
Just awful. Makes you wonder if it's always been this bad and now we just see it more because of the times we live in, or if we have decayed that much as a society.
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According to folks that have been cops longer than I've been alive, it wasn't always like this (around TX, anyway).
Anyone else notice almost all the questionable police shootings are in democrat run shitholes?
I swear that a few weeks ago I read that LEO hit percentage is around 16%. Article said that NYPD had 176 shots fired in 2018 with 27 hits.
Trying to find info now, everything so far is 2015ish. Which is about the same stats, just looking for most recent data.
Trying to find info now, everything so far is 2015ish. Which is about the same stats, just looking for most recent data.
Not surprising. When I went to the academy, firearms was 40 hours. Most of that was classroom safety training geared toward people who'd never held a gun before.
Actual range training was static shooting no further than 25 yards.
Requalification was shooting 50 rounds with most being shot at 10 yards or less, all static shooting.
I doubt it's changed much since then.
"Higgins won the Sheriff's Department Medal of Honor and the district attorney's office ruled his actions were justified."
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ornia-deputy-used-excessive-force-in-shooting
Lolwut
"“I thought it was a movie. It was surreal. And then training kicked in,” Higgins said in an April 2014 article in the Orange County Register. "
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/...ting-a-suspect-and-then-stomping-on-his-head/
The training. Lol. SHEEP DOGS!
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ornia-deputy-used-excessive-force-in-shooting
Lolwut
"“I thought it was a movie. It was surreal. And then training kicked in,” Higgins said in an April 2014 article in the Orange County Register. "
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/...ting-a-suspect-and-then-stomping-on-his-head/
The training. Lol. SHEEP DOGS!
There's a point where you go from justifiably reasonable force to stop a threat to life to abuse of a corpse. I'd say that he passed it, by any measure. Wearing a badge doesn't change that spot in continuum of force. If anything, he should have been more critically aware of his actions, no matter how agitated. It isn't a blanket indictment of police officers, but rather an observation in a single case.
IMO the officer was in a total panic. The way he danced around after the shoot tells me he was completely in the red zone and full monkey brain.
Yeah, he definitely has the "tickle factor" in full force (adrenaline overriding normal logic, restricted peripheral vision, fight or flight function in full control).
One academy at which I taught used a qualification course that was 10 yards and closer. It irritated the brass when the instructors (who thought 10 yards maximum with 80% score was far to lenient and gave too much liability exposure) called it the Ray Charles qualification course.
Initially, the course was set up so that any score of 80% would pass. When instructors pointed out that students could completely miss the target with 20% of their rounds fired, the course was changed to 80% with all rounds accounted for on the target. I still thought that at 10 yards the course was too lenient.
My agency eventually adopted a qualification that required 80% score, 100% of shots accounted for on the target, with no alibi shots, and the course was to be fired cold...in other words, there was no warm up or practice shooting before attempting to qualify...just like in a shooting..you don't get to warm up first. And with the no alibi shots, if you couldn't fix a malfunction in time, too bad. As officers were granted enormous latitude in choosing their own weapon system, there was no one to blame for a pistol that doesn't work, other than the person who bought it. So it was inherent on the officers to choose a reliable system, not just some turd of a gun that doesn't operate reliably. As I pointed out to new officers: "Would you accept a parachute that worked most of the time, or a car where the brakes worked MOST OF THE TIME?" Of course not..so do the same with the firearm you hope will save your life.
Initially, the course was set up so that any score of 80% would pass. When instructors pointed out that students could completely miss the target with 20% of their rounds fired, the course was changed to 80% with all rounds accounted for on the target. I still thought that at 10 yards the course was too lenient.
My agency eventually adopted a qualification that required 80% score, 100% of shots accounted for on the target, with no alibi shots, and the course was to be fired cold...in other words, there was no warm up or practice shooting before attempting to qualify...just like in a shooting..you don't get to warm up first. And with the no alibi shots, if you couldn't fix a malfunction in time, too bad. As officers were granted enormous latitude in choosing their own weapon system, there was no one to blame for a pistol that doesn't work, other than the person who bought it. So it was inherent on the officers to choose a reliable system, not just some turd of a gun that doesn't operate reliably. As I pointed out to new officers: "Would you accept a parachute that worked most of the time, or a car where the brakes worked MOST OF THE TIME?" Of course not..so do the same with the firearm you hope will save your life.
Yeah, and they wanna US to disarm. Not. Happening.
This man is afraid of his shadow and shouldn't be carrying a firearm. His training. What training?
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