Re: Officially hunting pit bulls...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luvtolean</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there many other reasons dogs bite than fear or kill? Yes, of course, but my blanket statement is relatively correct. A cocker will bite your ankle and run like hell, a pitt will try to tear your ankle off, and it's much less likely to trigger to bite you for different reasons, a pit bull wants to harm what it bites, a cocker wants to let it know not to mess with it.
Anyone who has had their dog, or seen another, go predatory sees and knows the difference.
We agree, pit bulls were selectively bred and culled to have a particular style of bite, that bite was bred because it's more likely to seriously injure or kill another living thing, the dog across the ring. Unfortunately that applies when they bite other people's pets and children too which is why pitts really are different.
Yes, of course pit bulls were also selectively bred not to bite humans, you don't want your fighting dog turning on the handler rather than the other dog in the ring. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that pit bulls kill more humans than all other breeds combined, or that children are the size of a pit bull. It just means they harm and kill less humans than they could've been bred to.
Pit bull enthusiasts like to deny these realities because they are worried they're going to lose their breed. But it does not help the cause to deny that a pit bull is different, and yes, more dangerous than some other breeds.
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You are 100% wrong that Pitbull bite with intent to inflict serious injury of death every time... you are wrong plain and simple.
The Pit is different. They are different because of attributes and their INTENSE desire to please their owners. This is why they fight. The selective breeding is to get the attributes (speed, strength, explosiveness, agility, drive, gameness, tolerance to discomfort, they don't like to lose).
A normal Pit is just a super athletic dog.
An abused Pit who has been taught to be mean is more dangerous then other dogs, yup, they are scary.
Take look at the 60+ dogs on this list published by the United Kennel Club. This is a list of "Super Dogs".
"A Super Dog is an unofficial title given to the dogs who earn a title in each of the following five UKC all-breed events; conformation, obedience, agility, rally obedience and weight pull (working events must be open to all breeds)."
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/WebPages/DogSuperdog
35 out of 66 are Bully's.
A well cared for, socialized Pitbull is basically a well mannered ATHLETE. The dog version of an Olympian.
They are not predisposed to killing anything, no more then any other canine.
Pits and Rotties account for most dog related deaths, only because of their physical attributes.
The reason that there are more deaths from Pits is simple. Numbers, there are more Pits and Pit-mixes then any other breed right now. Sadly, the reason people want them is because of how they look. 50-80lbs of muscle is pretty intimidating. There are MANY more Pits then there are responsible owners.
Here's another website for you to look over. http://www.dogcentral.info/worlds-aggressive-dog-breeds/ Toy Poodles and Chihuahuas are MUCH more aggressive but never make the news or even get reported simply because you can usually patch the damage with some antibiotic cream and a band aid.
Statistics are based around reporting... if it doesn't get reported...
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Now, luvtolean, I'm done TRYING to educate you. Re-reading your first paragraph above I can tell you are OBVIOUSLY and expert... maybe you can have your own TV show.
Bottom line, if you go looking for bad press about Pit's you will find it... but, if you go looking for good press you will find plenty of that too.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luvtolean</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there many other reasons dogs bite than fear or kill? Yes, of course, but my blanket statement is relatively correct. A cocker will bite your ankle and run like hell, a pitt will try to tear your ankle off, and it's much less likely to trigger to bite you for different reasons, a pit bull wants to harm what it bites, a cocker wants to let it know not to mess with it.
Anyone who has had their dog, or seen another, go predatory sees and knows the difference.
We agree, pit bulls were selectively bred and culled to have a particular style of bite, that bite was bred because it's more likely to seriously injure or kill another living thing, the dog across the ring. Unfortunately that applies when they bite other people's pets and children too which is why pitts really are different.
Yes, of course pit bulls were also selectively bred not to bite humans, you don't want your fighting dog turning on the handler rather than the other dog in the ring. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that pit bulls kill more humans than all other breeds combined, or that children are the size of a pit bull. It just means they harm and kill less humans than they could've been bred to.
Pit bull enthusiasts like to deny these realities because they are worried they're going to lose their breed. But it does not help the cause to deny that a pit bull is different, and yes, more dangerous than some other breeds.
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You are 100% wrong that Pitbull bite with intent to inflict serious injury of death every time... you are wrong plain and simple.
The Pit is different. They are different because of attributes and their INTENSE desire to please their owners. This is why they fight. The selective breeding is to get the attributes (speed, strength, explosiveness, agility, drive, gameness, tolerance to discomfort, they don't like to lose).
A normal Pit is just a super athletic dog.
An abused Pit who has been taught to be mean is more dangerous then other dogs, yup, they are scary.
Take look at the 60+ dogs on this list published by the United Kennel Club. This is a list of "Super Dogs".
"A Super Dog is an unofficial title given to the dogs who earn a title in each of the following five UKC all-breed events; conformation, obedience, agility, rally obedience and weight pull (working events must be open to all breeds)."
http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/WebPages/DogSuperdog
35 out of 66 are Bully's.
A well cared for, socialized Pitbull is basically a well mannered ATHLETE. The dog version of an Olympian.
They are not predisposed to killing anything, no more then any other canine.
Pits and Rotties account for most dog related deaths, only because of their physical attributes.
The reason that there are more deaths from Pits is simple. Numbers, there are more Pits and Pit-mixes then any other breed right now. Sadly, the reason people want them is because of how they look. 50-80lbs of muscle is pretty intimidating. There are MANY more Pits then there are responsible owners.
Here's another website for you to look over. http://www.dogcentral.info/worlds-aggressive-dog-breeds/ Toy Poodles and Chihuahuas are MUCH more aggressive but never make the news or even get reported simply because you can usually patch the damage with some antibiotic cream and a band aid.
Statistics are based around reporting... if it doesn't get reported...
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Now, luvtolean, I'm done TRYING to educate you. Re-reading your first paragraph above I can tell you are OBVIOUSLY and expert... maybe you can have your own TV show.
Bottom line, if you go looking for bad press about Pit's you will find it... but, if you go looking for good press you will find plenty of that too.
