Rifle Scopes Optic suggestions/mounting needed for tiny face.

[PanicBarbie]

Hey guys, I am putting together my pistol AR and am having trouble selecting an appropriate optic for my gun. I have a super small face/stature and have always ran into optic height problems because of this. Usually I attach some sort of cheek riser that raises up about an inch but since I have an sb tactical pdw brace I was looking into very low mounted optics instead. Being that it will be mounted so low, i know back up irons are out of the question, which im alright with. I would basically need an optic to sit right on top of the rail and something that doesnt have a ton of eye relief since I have a short LOP. You guys have any suggestions for a magnified optic for shooting under 500yds that sits further back on the rail?

 

[Onewolf42]

The correct optic for an AR "pistol" is.... iron sights. Sorry not the answer you want.

 

[Neurotic]

Could use a pistol sized red dot with a picatinny rail adapter rather than the co-witness height AR adapters.

For magnification, the SWFA Ultralite (2.5-10) is small and with shorter than normal eye relief. I have mine mounted far enough back that picatinny rings could be used.

 

[Dthomas3523]

Use a jaw weld instead of cheek weld.

Since it’s an light recoiling gas gun, you won’t suffer from jaw weld or even having your face slightly off the stock.

 

[Pbgt]

Beetlejuice? that you?

 

[PanicBarbie]

Beetlejuice? that you?

If you mean i have a shrunken head then yes lol

 

[PanicBarbie]

Could use a pistol sized red dot with a picatinny rail adapter rather than the co-witness height AR adapters.

For magnification, the SWFA Ultralite (2.5-10) is small and with shorter than normal eye relief. I have mine mounted far enough back that picatinny rings could be used.

Huh, I might look into that. I had a 10x SWFA once and loved it. It was a heavy girl but it was range toy.

 

[Daleteam6]

The correct optic for an AR "pistol" is.... iron sights. Sorry not the answer you want.

This. I have an binary pistol build and went with iron sites because it’s just a fun range toy.

Honestly though optic wise probably doesn’t matter as much as mount height. You’re probably going to want to run something super low, and as long as your optic doesn’t have a huge objective lens you’ll be alright. You might run out of lower adjustment but you won’t really be shooting far with a pistol so it doesn’t matter as much

 

[10ring'r]

Find a Bushnell TRS-25, with Hi-Rise. Experiment with the mount installed, then without. I have one mounted on an AR pistol, and it works, it's cheap, and the damn thing is durable. Mines been dropped twice, once by a stranger, once by me, on concrete and it maintained zero both times. Have about 2500rnds. thru it and have owned it for 4-5 years(two different guns/uppers) and still going. Mac

 

[Davesnothere]

PA Cyclops 1x prism

 

[OldSalty2]

Find a Bushnell TRS-25, with Hi-Rise. Experiment with the mount installed, then without. I have one mounted on an AR pistol, and it works, it's cheap, and the damn thing is durable. Mines been dropped twice, once by a stranger, once by me, on concrete and it maintained zero both times. Have about 2500rnds. thru it and have owned it for 4-5 years(two different guns/uppers) and still going. Mac

Agree with this and the post above about adjusting your weld. About the lowest you are going to get will be a red dot flush mounted (without cowitness mount) or a pistol red dot (think trijicon rmr, leupold deltapoint pro, etc).

You can get the trs25 mentioned above for less that 90 bucks and will allow you a cost effective way to experiment and see if a red dot meets your requirements. As mentioned, they are remarkably sturdy for the cost.

500yrds while doable with a red dot, isnt probably the best option all things considered. Which in this case, using a lpvo in the 1-4, 1-6 or 1-10 will get you out to 500yrd and beyond and have more forgiving eye relief that higher powered optics. Plus allow flexibility up close.

I have an trijicon 1-4 accupower on one of my rifles and have no issue making hits out to 500yrd on full size idpa targets. The eye relief and sight picture is very forgiving. Ymmv.

 

[PanicBarbie]

Agree with this and the post above about adjusting your weld. About the lowest you are going to get will be a red dot flush mounted (without cowitness mount) or a pistol red dot (think trijicon rmr, leupold deltapoint pro, etc).

You can get the trs25 mentioned above for less that 90 bucks and will allow you a cost effective way to experiment and see if a red dot meets your requirements. As mentioned, they are remarkably sturdy for the cost.

500yrds while doable with a red dot, isnt probably the best option all things considered. Which in this case, using a lpvo in the 1-4, 1-6 or 1-10 will get you out to 500yrd and beyond and have more forgiving eye relief that higher powered optics. Plus allow flexibility up close.

I have an trijicon 1-4 accupower on one of my rifles and have no issue making hits out to 500yrd on full size idpa targets. The eye relief and sight picture is very forgiving. Ymmv.

I just realized I put 500 yds down. 300 and under is what I meant to say. Yeah I think im coming to terms with the jaw weld. I think im going with an eotech xps2 since im not sure if im going to be shooting left handed or right handed (astigmatism in my left eye, left eye dominant, right hand dominant). You guys have been very helpful!

 

[10ring'r]

Agree with this and the post above about adjusting your weld. About the lowest you are going to get will be a red dot flush mounted (without cowitness mount) or a pistol red dot (think trijicon rmr, leupold deltapoint pro, etc).

You can get the trs25 mentioned above for less that 90 bucks and will allow you a cost effective way to experiment and see if a red dot meets your requirements. As mentioned, they are remarkably sturdy for the cost.

500yrds while doable with a red dot, isnt probably the best option all things considered. Which in this case, using a lpvo in the 1-4, 1-6 or 1-10 will get you out to 500yrd and beyond and have more forgiving eye relief that higher powered optics. Plus allow flexibility up close.

I have an trijicon 1-4 accupower on one of my rifles and have no issue making hits out to 500yrd on full size idpa targets. The eye relief and sight picture is very forgiving. Ymmv.

Absolutely correct. If your choice of weapon, is an AR pistol, 300yds. is a doable range (I can hit a 10-12" plate, at 300yds., maybe 40-50% of the time (I suck, I know) and that's only if I "cheek" the weapon, using my co-witnessed RDS. I only use my 10.5 pistol, for 25 to 200yd. stuff. IF I want to be more "accurate", I'll use my 16" upper'd gun w/ 1x6 on it.
Mac