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I was just in their shop yesterday, and Jay was showing it to me. It looked good and felt good. I did like the flared mag well vs the normal straight wall.
I talked with Joe next door at exodus rifles about them as well. He stated that he has been using a lot of them in his builds.
Thanks,
Jay
I talked with Joe next door at exodus rifles about them as well. He stated that he has been using a lot of them in his builds.
Thanks,
Jay
I have replaced all my Hawkins Bottom Metal with OTM. I like the flare, mag release, and finishing much better. Also allows the use of ARC, AICS, MDT, Magpul, and AW magazines with ease.
I did notice the release was pretty stiff. But it is a good fit and finish. I’m liking it so far.
@NodakBarbarian Does it fit the m5 hawkins dbm inlet on the centurion?
Yes. OTM and Hawkins are interchangeable.
Yes, but mine won’t feed AW mags.
Wondering how others are faring since I see a few pix in here. Looks like the mag catch in mine presents the mag too low. Pressing up on the mags I have no issues feeding.
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OTM advertises with dbm will not run aw mags. What's your secret? I wonder if they'll come out with a longer mag latch for keeping the mag higher in the actionI have replaced all my Hawkins Bottom Metal with OTM. I like the flare, mag release, and finishing much better. Also allows the use of ARC, AICS, MDT, Magpul, and AW magazines with ease.
Strange. Mine work fine with AW mags. No modifications needed. lol
I could be a fluke though... wife says I am.
Well F it, I'm getting one for my bra build. That thing looks Gucci as F. Love the gloss finish vs the matte of Hawkins/Badger
Worst case scenario you can take a few mm off the AW mags. The magwell flare alone makes it worth it.
Doubt it. The fella at OTM is happy with his product offering as-is.
Well I'll just have to run aics mags with kits in my new 6bra build then. My smith has an aw mag with hrd kit. I'll try it and see of it works. Wonder if a guy could braze a lil material to the catch on the mag body and file it down to keep the aw riding high against action.
An aics with primal rights kit has been absolute money in my dasher. If you can’t run aw then it’s not like the other options are crap. Just an inch longer.
And yes you can weld and file, that’s what people have had to do to mag catches that weren’t perfect for their individual set up for a long time.
That said, working on it to fit one situation may mean it won’t work for any others going forward. I had to file a mag catch to get mags to fit into my rem700 but when I swapped to other actions it was then too low. Just realize that each situation is it’s own.
I wouldn't do anything to the bottom metal mag latch, I'd modify a mag or two if need be. I may even try to getting some mdt 6br mags. I just have so many dang different mags already. Accurate, mdt, arc, pmag
Works great with AICS mag kit/ mdt br mags. Also has a really nice comfortable "pocket" for your trigger finger to rest in when indexed straight. Mag well feeds the mag in smoother and is much more forgiving lining it up than any other bottom metal I've used. Also the "flat" below the trigger offers a really nice spot to index your middle finger if you setup your grip that way.
that’s a really nice dbm. I wish they could offer a flush style hunter that would be compatible with the Hawkins 4 rounds AICS magazine. I love that magwell flare.
If you are asking for a flared, m5 inlet, flush fit-it doesn't look physically possible.
And that length is?
No clue, had spare sets to use.
Got my barreled action last week and was finally able to get a few sent down range yesterday. I was having trouble feeding the last round out mdt and AI mags. Seems they are sitting a hair to low. Is there a way to tune the mag catch on the magazine or the otm bottom metal? Or tune the mag spring or something? I’m still new to all this so where should I start. Other than that I really like the look, the flared mag well and the mag release on this otm.
No, but if you call Joe he will help you troubleshoot. His advice will likely be to open up the mag feed lips to present the round higher and ditch the MDT mags, but it could be a number of things.
When you say Joe, the otm shop?
If the other rounds feed fine, I would suggest this:
Take apart the magazines and stretch the springs using a clamp with the jaws in reverse. A 12 inch clamp works fine.
This is what I use when I install magazine extensions, to make the spring longer:
12" Large Trigger Clamp | DEWALT
The 12-inch large bar clamp is versatile and easy to use. Its reinforced nylon body and heat-treated steel bar are strong and durable. With 300-pounds of clamping force, 3-1/4" throat depth, quick ...
www.dewalt.com I’ve cut G10 and put in the bottom of magazines to increase spring tension. Typically it doesn't take much height or thickness so you dont lose any capacity. I havent had much luck stretching springs; especially in Rem 700 BDL hinged floorplates.If the other rounds feed fine, I would suggest this:
Take apart the magazines and stretch the springs using a clamp with the jaws in reverse. A 12 inch clamp works fine.
This is what I use when I install magazine extensions, to make the spring longer:
12" Large Trigger Clamp | DEWALT
The 12-inch large bar clamp is versatile and easy to use. Its reinforced nylon body and heat-treated steel bar are strong and durable. With 300-pounds of clamping force, 3-1/4" throat depth, quick ...
The issue is this is not possible when you have magazine extensions. The best way to increase magazine length is the reverse clamp method. Area419, for example, requires you to stretch springs 1.5 inches from base and mention it as such in their directions.
The website says it’s not compatible with AW magazines. Do you just need a longer mag latch?I have replaced all my Hawkins Bottom Metal with OTM. I like the flare, mag release, and finishing much better. Also allows the use of ARC, AICS, MDT, Magpul, and AW magazines with ease.
Yes, which they did not make last year when I checked into them.
Definitely didn’t function with AWs when I still had one in my Foundation. Joe has no interest in AW mags.
