Outlier Backdraft - any thoughts?

[Maurygold]

I am considering an outlier barrel with the backdraft suppressor. I am guessing no one has tried one, given I only see them on YouTube (and they are nearly all shills). The barrel is roughly $500 and comes with $400 credit for their base model suppressor, which you can upgrade, which is a crazy good deal considering most of my suppressors alone are $1200+ . Does anyone have any experience?

I am undecided on having them prefit it, but I have a deep hate for barrel nuts. I am hesitant, though, to spend more money on a system with lower expectations for a shoulder chamber job on their blank that may almost double the cost. My chamber job on the carbon from Alex Wheeler was more expensive than the entire barrel and suppressor from outlier.

This is going on a 700 action I am doing nothing with currently, and only want it for a cheap alternative for a true hunting rifle, sub 200 yards in 300 Win Mag, and I will upgrade suppressor to the longest model. I may shoot it farther, but I will not pick this up over the other custom guns I have for my 3-4x per month long range shooting (attached so you don't have to call me cheap, or think this will be my 1k yard gun)

Does anyone else have thoughts on this and/ or considering it? I normally am extremely suspicious of cheap gun parts (again, see picture), but for some reason, this one has me intrigued. https://getoutlier.com/products/308-7-62mm-backdraft-cf-barrel

 

[xdeano]

I actually just ordered a 6mm blank backdraft barrel last week. I'm awaiting delivery. I'll be chambering it in 6GT. It's the short 20" one so it might be kind of interesting.

I don't know if you've watched the slow-mo video yet but it's pretty intriguing.



I'll report back when I get the barrel in hand and get it chucked up in the lathe, chambered and shot.

xdeano

 

[Maurygold]

Ive decided it’s too good to be true and I’m holding off.

Mountains mullets America posted a video of one he got in and it struggled to shoot a 1 moa group - that’s not for me.

 

[XP1K]

I actually just ordered a 6mm blank backdraft barrel last week. I'm awaiting delivery. I'll be chambering it in 6GT. It's the short 20" one so it might be kind of interesting.

I don't know if you've watched the slow-mo video yet but it's pretty intriguing.



I'll report back when I get the barrel in hand and get it chucked up in the lathe, chambered and shot.

xdeano

Do keep us posted. I picked up a 22" blank nib second hand off LRH. While it does shoot better than their guarantee of 1 moa, there's always an "outlier" in the group. And its slow. Ran into pressure pretty quick. Mine is chambered in 6 dasher.

The old standby of 32gr of varget is a no go. It's on the ragged edge with 90-95gr pills around 2750. 108's top out around 2650.

Granted, this is my first experience with a dasher and I'm only basing my opinion on one other dasher I chambered for a friend of mine on a 21" proof. He's consistently 100 fps faster than me with the same loads.

Piet from impact shooting is shooting 87's at 2900 from an 18" dasher.

To the OP @Maurygold, I was going to recommend you pass. Sounds like you already made your decision though.

 

[The_Steward]

I watched about thirty seconds of that mountain mullets review video. Without thinking about it in depth, I don't know why you'd want to put more heat back into your barrel like that.

 

[Maurygold]

I watched about thirty seconds of that mountain mullets review video. Without thinking about it in depth, I don't know why you'd want to put more heat back into your barrel like that.

That’s a fair point. There’s not really any advantage that I can think of and my suppressor getting hot has never been a concern (once it’s got a cover on it)

They don’t seem to claim increased cooling or rigidity from the cylindrical boring like the open ended design of the tacom (that guy is full of shit anyways)

 

[Judd]

I too have been on the fence. I’m intrigued due to the reflex cans definitely have a different tone and to my ear the AB reflex cans are some of the quietest out. Seems to me it’s just a bigger reflex. I have a buddy who knows them and he’s trying to get a demo or a day I can get to the range to try it first hand.

I’m not thinking comp, I’m thinking for a hunting gun too.

 

[xdeano]

I too have been on the fence. I’m intrigued due to the reflex cans definitely have a different tone and to my ear the AB reflex cans are some of the quietest out. Seems to me it’s just a bigger reflex. I have a buddy who knows them and he’s trying to get a demo or a day I can get to the range to try it first hand.

I’m not thinking comp, I’m thinking for a hunting gun too.

Ive got a couple of AB cans. They make a HUB mount for the Raptor and im thinking I'll pick one up for this barrel just to see how quiet it is. The AB cans are incredible with the reflex. Ive got a 375 cheytac can from AB thats the same dia as the 223 can, more baffles and a larger reflex, but man does it pull the life out of the room. It works very
well.

Hope this helps.
Deano

 

[Kickin45]

I ordered one last year at this same sale.
I was told 30 days till delivery.
At 90 days I started messaging them. No responses. Ever!
At 6 months, I contacted my CC company and reversed the charges.

Guess what. The next day, Outlier emailed me and said “too bad you canceled your payment, your barrel was just finished and was going to be shipping out tomorrow”

Apparently they think I was born yesterday.
My opinion, I’d stay away. But hey, I’m only 1 experience.

 

[hermosabeach]

I know almost zero on cans. I do recall getting an eye full of smoke in my eyes from a supressed mp5.

Even the mag was full of smoke when removed from the smg.

I'm wondering how gas / powder is driven back into the bore from a regular can.

For a hunting rifle, 2 moa is plenty of accuracy- work on your stalking and get in under 250 for your shot.