Suppressors P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
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Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
They both perform well . I use an SWR HEMS2 . I have a SIG 220 Tactical TB (threaded from the factory) , and SA TRP Operator , with a Jarvis barrel . To me , they both sound the same ... Its up to you , if you like single- or double-action . I've shot 1911s for fun for 30 years , but no doubt there are a lot of choices out there now . There are no 1911s threaded from the factory that I'm aware of , yet , besides SIG , there's FN and H&K , and possibly Beretta , Taurus , and Smith and Wesson ... For barrels , there's Jarvis , Storm Lake , Fire Dragon , and custom threading ...
They both perform well . I use an SWR HEMS2 . I have a SIG 220 Tactical TB (threaded from the factory) , and SA TRP Operator , with a Jarvis barrel . To me , they both sound the same ... Its up to you , if you like single- or double-action . I've shot 1911s for fun for 30 years , but no doubt there are a lot of choices out there now . There are no 1911s threaded from the factory that I'm aware of , yet , besides SIG , there's FN and H&K , and possibly Beretta , Taurus , and Smith and Wesson ... For barrels , there's Jarvis , Storm Lake , Fire Dragon , and custom threading ...
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
I agree the sound performance is about the same. I have a P220 with a Jarvis barrel and two 1911s - SA and a Kimber - with Jarvis barrels. They all perform and sound the same with an Osprey.
I agree the sound performance is about the same. I have a P220 with a Jarvis barrel and two 1911s - SA and a Kimber - with Jarvis barrels. They all perform and sound the same with an Osprey.
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dragoon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...There are no 1911s threaded from the factory that I'm aware of , yet ... </div></div>
It's almost $2900 and not sure if it's considered factory or full custom, but Nighthawk Tactical does offer a threaded 1911 that they call the Advanced Armament Corperation pistol.
http://www.nighthawktactical.com/Advanced-Armament-Pistol.html
JMC
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dragoon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...There are no 1911s threaded from the factory that I'm aware of , yet ... </div></div>
It's almost $2900 and not sure if it's considered factory or full custom, but Nighthawk Tactical does offer a threaded 1911 that they call the Advanced Armament Corperation pistol.
http://www.nighthawktactical.com/Advanced-Armament-Pistol.html
JMC
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't the 220 more of a compact model? The 226 being full size...
I guess you'd have to ask yourself if you want SA suppressed or SA/DA suppressed...or buy both!
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The P220 and P226 are both full size models, there is a P220 compact model as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't the 220 more of a compact model? The 226 being full size...
I guess you'd have to ask yourself if you want SA suppressed or SA/DA suppressed...or buy both!
The P220 and P226 are both full size models, there is a P220 compact model as well.
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
Noise should be equal...being closed breech/barrel without the gap of revolvers. Balance might be better with the heavier frame of the 1911. JMHO
Noise should be equal...being closed breech/barrel without the gap of revolvers. Balance might be better with the heavier frame of the 1911. JMHO
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
I would think they are the same. Different thread patterns. But a Polymer framed pistol should be quieter than a steel/metal framed pistol, Well at least from the operators standpoint.
I would think they are the same. Different thread patterns. But a Polymer framed pistol should be quieter than a steel/metal framed pistol, Well at least from the operators standpoint.
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Noise should be equal...being closed breech/barrel without the gap of revolvers. Balance might be better with the heavier frame of the 1911. JMHO </div></div>
If you assume all pistols with sound suppressors sound equal because they have a close breech, you haven't shot a lot of suppressed handguns because that isn't the case. Barrel length and lock time can make a big difference to the sound at the shooter's location.
Also, the Osprey is fairly light-weight with its balance point more toward the rear of the suppressor. And the P220 isn't exactly a light-weight pistol. That particular suppressor on those two hosts balance and feel pretty close.
Osprey on my P220:
Sights on both platforms are right at the top or just slightly over the suppressor body.
Index the suppressor with the cam lock on the rear.
One of my 1911s:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Noise should be equal...being closed breech/barrel without the gap of revolvers. Balance might be better with the heavier frame of the 1911. JMHO </div></div>
If you assume all pistols with sound suppressors sound equal because they have a close breech, you haven't shot a lot of suppressed handguns because that isn't the case. Barrel length and lock time can make a big difference to the sound at the shooter's location.
Also, the Osprey is fairly light-weight with its balance point more toward the rear of the suppressor. And the P220 isn't exactly a light-weight pistol. That particular suppressor on those two hosts balance and feel pretty close.
Osprey on my P220:
Sights on both platforms are right at the top or just slightly over the suppressor body.
Index the suppressor with the cam lock on the rear.
One of my 1911s:
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Calibur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think they are the same. Different thread patterns. But a Polymer framed pistol should be quieter than a steel/metal framed pistol, Well at least from the operators standpoint. </div></div>
Both platforms are available with .578x28 threads.
Why would you think a polymer framed pistol would be quieter?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Calibur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think they are the same. Different thread patterns. But a Polymer framed pistol should be quieter than a steel/metal framed pistol, Well at least from the operators standpoint. </div></div>
Both platforms are available with .578x28 threads.
Why would you think a polymer framed pistol would be quieter?
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
I agree , if you're the shooter . There's less metallic sound as it cycles . I've noticed this with a Walther P-22 versus the Walther PPK and TPH , as well as the H&K USP Tactical vs. steel frame .45s , and the H&K USP SD vs. SIG 226 and Browning HP . But , I think the ejection-port noise is still loud enough to counter any advantage ...
I agree , if you're the shooter . There's less metallic sound as it cycles . I've noticed this with a Walther P-22 versus the Walther PPK and TPH , as well as the H&K USP Tactical vs. steel frame .45s , and the H&K USP SD vs. SIG 226 and Browning HP . But , I think the ejection-port noise is still loud enough to counter any advantage ...
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
I vote for the 1911 (I also use an SWR HEMS-2 with mine).
I vote for the 1911 (I also use an SWR HEMS-2 with mine).
Re: P220 vs 1911. Better platform for supression?
i was torn between a 1911 and a 220
i went with a sig p220r elite single action only. thumbreak saftey and nice factory trigger.
sig makes a 220 that is "suppressor ready" it has a threaded barrel and raised sights.
one thhing to remember is the sig pictured above has a stainless frame not the standard aluminum.
as for the question about the difffrences between a 220 and 226, the only significant diffrence is a 220 is a 45 the 226 is a 9mm they use the same holster.
i was torn between a 1911 and a 220
i went with a sig p220r elite single action only. thumbreak saftey and nice factory trigger.
sig makes a 220 that is "suppressor ready" it has a threaded barrel and raised sights.
one thhing to remember is the sig pictured above has a stainless frame not the standard aluminum.
as for the question about the difffrences between a 220 and 226, the only significant diffrence is a 220 is a 45 the 226 is a 9mm they use the same holster.
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