I am shooting my CZ 452 in 22lr at 300 yards now and want to go farther. I am out of elevation in my scope and am now using mils to get as far as I am. I am using 35 MOA and 2.5 or so mils to make hits at this distance. I need a scope with more elevation. What are my options to shoot past 300 yards?
Past 300 Yards
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Re: Past 300 Yards
you could get a differnt base like a 40moa base but might have to be brought to a gunsmith to be tapped for a different base rather than the factory CZ rail for their rings. other wise you get get a us optics or nightforce,S&B,ect. usully have a signifiacant amount of elvation usully between 80-120moa in the higher end scopes.
you could get a differnt base like a 40moa base but might have to be brought to a gunsmith to be tapped for a different base rather than the factory CZ rail for their rings. other wise you get get a us optics or nightforce,S&B,ect. usully have a signifiacant amount of elvation usully between 80-120moa in the higher end scopes.
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What scope are you currently running? My Savage 21" bbl w/ 20 MOA base + SWFA SuperSniper 10x42mm get me out to 300 yards w/o any mil holdovers using subsonics.
What scope are you using?
What scope are you currently running? My Savage 21" bbl w/ 20 MOA base + SWFA SuperSniper 10x42mm get me out to 300 yards w/o any mil holdovers using subsonics.
What scope are you using?
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I am running a Hawke Sidewinder tactical 30 4.4-14x42 with a DIP 20MOA base and Seekins Rings.
I am running a Hawke Sidewinder tactical 30 4.4-14x42 with a DIP 20MOA base and Seekins Rings.
Re: Past 300 Yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am shooting my CZ 452 in 22lr at 300 yards now and want to go farther. I am out of elevation in my scope and am now using mils to get as far as I am. I am using 35 MOA and 2.5 or so mils to make hits at this distance. I need a scope with more elevation. What are my options to shoot past 300 yards?</div></div>
i'm not sure if you are already running a MOA base, if not get one.
if you are already running one, el cheapo method: shim the back of your present base with a piece of soda can, trimmed to fit nicely underneath.
add burris moa rings to the moa base.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am shooting my CZ 452 in 22lr at 300 yards now and want to go farther. I am out of elevation in my scope and am now using mils to get as far as I am. I am using 35 MOA and 2.5 or so mils to make hits at this distance. I need a scope with more elevation. What are my options to shoot past 300 yards?</div></div>
i'm not sure if you are already running a MOA base, if not get one.
if you are already running one, el cheapo method: shim the back of your present base with a piece of soda can, trimmed to fit nicely underneath.
add burris moa rings to the moa base.
Re: Past 300 Yards
243Varminter, What kind of ammo are you using and what results do you get at 300 yards? Group size or size of a steel target if that is what you are shooting at.
My gunclub has a 300 yard metal buffalo silhouette fun shoot from a bench with sandbags once every Tuesday evening that I am going to do this spring. I am looking for any kind of long range .22 information from persons who are actually shooting this distance and beyond. I know my rifle will have it's own preformance and ammo preference.
Thanks for your help.
243Varminter, What kind of ammo are you using and what results do you get at 300 yards? Group size or size of a steel target if that is what you are shooting at.
My gunclub has a 300 yard metal buffalo silhouette fun shoot from a bench with sandbags once every Tuesday evening that I am going to do this spring. I am looking for any kind of long range .22 information from persons who are actually shooting this distance and beyond. I know my rifle will have it's own preformance and ammo preference.
Thanks for your help.
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I was using Wolf Match Target but at 300 yards I had to go to CCI Mini Mags. I am using a 6 inch steel plate for this distance and the best I have done so far was 4 hits out of 5 shots. I can't seem to get 5 hits in a row. I have ordered a MGM IPSC target and would like to reach 400 yards but I may have to get a different scope with more elevation since I already have the 20MOA base. The wind has to be just right for this type of accuracy for me though. If it is blowing much at all I might as well forget it and go home.
I was using Wolf Match Target but at 300 yards I had to go to CCI Mini Mags. I am using a 6 inch steel plate for this distance and the best I have done so far was 4 hits out of 5 shots. I can't seem to get 5 hits in a row. I have ordered a MGM IPSC target and would like to reach 400 yards but I may have to get a different scope with more elevation since I already have the 20MOA base. The wind has to be just right for this type of accuracy for me though. If it is blowing much at all I might as well forget it and go home.
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That is still pretty darn good to get 4 out of 5 hits at 300 yards on 6 inch steel with a 22LR. I'll have to try that with my new Izmash 7-2 Biathlon Basic when I get it. thanks, Dale
That is still pretty darn good to get 4 out of 5 hits at 300 yards on 6 inch steel with a 22LR. I'll have to try that with my new Izmash 7-2 Biathlon Basic when I get it. thanks, Dale
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I shot again today. Wind was gusting at least 10 mph with what looked like at least two different crosswinds. I basically just wasted a bunch of ammo. I turned my scope out of focus to see the vapor trail. When it hit the second crosswind the bullet would just fly off out of control. It reminded me of a bottle rocket taking off.
I shot again today. Wind was gusting at least 10 mph with what looked like at least two different crosswinds. I basically just wasted a bunch of ammo. I turned my scope out of focus to see the vapor trail. When it hit the second crosswind the bullet would just fly off out of control. It reminded me of a bottle rocket taking off.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Micah Hughes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you could get a differnt base like a 40moa base but might have to be brought to a gunsmith to be tapped for a different base rather than the factory CZ rail for their rings. other wise you get get a us optics or nightforce,S&B,ect. usully have a signifiacant amount of elvation usully between 80-120moa in the higher end scopes.</div></div>
+1
i shot my CZ452 varmint out to 200y today w/ a SWFA 10x42 without a 20 MOA base and was no where near running out of internal adjustment.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Micah Hughes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you could get a differnt base like a 40moa base but might have to be brought to a gunsmith to be tapped for a different base rather than the factory CZ rail for their rings. other wise you get get a us optics or nightforce,S&B,ect. usully have a signifiacant amount of elvation usully between 80-120moa in the higher end scopes.</div></div>
+1
i shot my CZ452 varmint out to 200y today w/ a SWFA 10x42 without a 20 MOA base and was no where near running out of internal adjustment.
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A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap
A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am shooting my CZ 452 in 22lr at 300 yards now and want to go farther. I am out of elevation in my scope and am now using mils to get as far as I am. I am using 35 MOA and 2.5 or so mils to make hits at this distance. I need a scope with more elevation. What are my options to shoot past 300 yards? </div></div>
This is what I use on my 22.I don't even need a angled base.It's got 74 IPHY available on the reticle and about 60 on the turrets.Yes I holdover for most of my shooting.
http://secure.horusvision.com/predator.php
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am shooting my CZ 452 in 22lr at 300 yards now and want to go farther. I am out of elevation in my scope and am now using mils to get as far as I am. I am using 35 MOA and 2.5 or so mils to make hits at this distance. I need a scope with more elevation. What are my options to shoot past 300 yards? </div></div>
This is what I use on my 22.I don't even need a angled base.It's got 74 IPHY available on the reticle and about 60 on the turrets.Yes I holdover for most of my shooting.
http://secure.horusvision.com/predator.php
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap</div></div>
i dont like how high the scope has to ride using this mount system.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap</div></div>
i dont like how high the scope has to ride using this mount system.
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Thanks for the replies. I was out to about 365 this weekend. The results are not to good so far because I could not tell where my rounds were going but I am still determined to reach 400 yards.
Thanks for the replies. I was out to about 365 this weekend. The results are not to good so far because I could not tell where my rounds were going but I am still determined to reach 400 yards.
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I would also like to attempt 300 and 400 this year. How much elevation are you using out to 365? This is going to play a role in what optic I get for it. Thanks
I would also like to attempt 300 and 400 this year. How much elevation are you using out to 365? This is going to play a role in what optic I get for it. Thanks
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dantrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap</div></div>
i dont like how high the scope has to ride using this mount system. </div></div>
Scope height don't matter in the scheme of things for shooting long distances but maybe for coolness appeal it may not be for everyone.
Topstrap
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dantrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A tad expensive but can get up to 110moa on just the mount alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp8V3h9fpM
Topstrap</div></div>
i dont like how high the scope has to ride using this mount system. </div></div>
Scope height don't matter in the scheme of things for shooting long distances but maybe for coolness appeal it may not be for everyone.
Topstrap
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I did a bunch of extended range RF shooting; but since the original novelty wore off, I only do it on rare occasions, to hone and confirm skills.
I did what Top Predator is recommending above, and found that once I had it, I didn't need to change.
My advice is to start with the shims, and stick with them until you have been at it awhile. If you still plan on doing a lot of extreme range RF shooting, go for the base. Otherwise, if you end up like me, maybe you can save the bucks.
Greg
I did a bunch of extended range RF shooting; but since the original novelty wore off, I only do it on rare occasions, to hone and confirm skills.
I did what Top Predator is recommending above, and found that once I had it, I didn't need to change.
My advice is to start with the shims, and stick with them until you have been at it awhile. If you still plan on doing a lot of extreme range RF shooting, go for the base. Otherwise, if you end up like me, maybe you can save the bucks.
Greg
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the replies. I was out to about 365 this weekend. The results are not to good so far because I could not tell where my rounds were going but I am still determined to reach 400 yards. </div></div>
I want to get to 400 yds, but after 300 with pretty good luck that 350 is kicking my ass!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 243Varminter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the replies. I was out to about 365 this weekend. The results are not to good so far because I could not tell where my rounds were going but I am still determined to reach 400 yards. </div></div>
I want to get to 400 yds, but after 300 with pretty good luck that 350 is kicking my ass!
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The Winequah Gun Club 300 yard .22 LR metal buffalo sihouette fun league is going to start soon. Just to give you an idea of the target size, the standing buffalo outline will fit on a 8.5 by 11 inch standard piece of paper stock. I am going through round selection for my Cooper TRP-1 to see what the rifle really likes for long range work. The Burris insert rings give me the 20 MOA boost I need for the distance along with a Leupold Vari X III 6.5x20 scope.
The Winequah Gun Club 300 yard .22 LR metal buffalo sihouette fun league is going to start soon. Just to give you an idea of the target size, the standing buffalo outline will fit on a 8.5 by 11 inch standard piece of paper stock. I am going through round selection for my Cooper TRP-1 to see what the rifle really likes for long range work. The Burris insert rings give me the 20 MOA boost I need for the distance along with a Leupold Vari X III 6.5x20 scope.
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Yesterday I made a first round hit at 328 yards on a IPSC target. A friend from work was over so I was able to prove that I was not just running my mouth about shooting a 22 at 300 plus yards. I am using 45 MOA plus about 4.5 mils. This seems alot for the distance since there have been people on here saying that 42 MOA would make it to 300. Is there something wrong with my scope?
Yesterday I made a first round hit at 328 yards on a IPSC target. A friend from work was over so I was able to prove that I was not just running my mouth about shooting a 22 at 300 plus yards. I am using 45 MOA plus about 4.5 mils. This seems alot for the distance since there have been people on here saying that 42 MOA would make it to 300. Is there something wrong with my scope?
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Savage Mk 2 TR, EGW 20 MOA base, NF 3.5x15x50 NPR1 Wolf Match Target:
We use from 46 to 54 MOA to get to 320-340y depending on wind and DA. We shoot a variety of steel targets from 6in down to 2.5in. Point of aim and proper form, are CRITICAL for consistent hits at that range.
Savage Mk 2 TR, EGW 20 MOA base, NF 3.5x15x50 NPR1 Wolf Match Target:
We use from 46 to 54 MOA to get to 320-340y depending on wind and DA. We shoot a variety of steel targets from 6in down to 2.5in. Point of aim and proper form, are CRITICAL for consistent hits at that range.
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Contact DIP, they asked me how much when I asked if they would make me a higher MOA rail for my 140 MOA Millett LRS-1.
Contact DIP, they asked me how much when I asked if they would make me a higher MOA rail for my 140 MOA Millett LRS-1.
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