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Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

frankythefly

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Just was looking today and came across a tikka t3 sporter has a laminated stock that looks similar to the TRG, threaded barrel on the 20" models. Only gripe is the color, and the magazine release location.

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Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could just buy the tactical version, ditch the stock

and toss this on it

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2328828&gonew=1#UNREAD</div></div>

Getting a tactical version would be a waste of money. Better option would be. Buy tikka lite and you can use the extra money to put it into the whiskey-3 stock.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Feel-da-fury</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could just buy the tactical version, ditch the stock

and toss this on it

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2328828&gonew=1#UNREAD</div></div>

Getting a tactical version would be a waste of money. Better option would be. Buy tikka lite and you can use the extra money to put it into the whiskey-3 stock. </div></div>

Did you even click on the link? It IS to the Whiskey Chassis.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

Sako cleverly offset the downside of the two lug Tikka action by making the bolt throw only 70 degrees instead of 90. So it's only 10 degrees more than the TRG.

A T3 in a W3C could save you 1k more or less, depending. You would then have access to different calibers. However, you wouldn't get the TRG trigger (although you can upgrade to a TRG trigger on your T3) and you wouldn't get the nice Sako double stack magazine. The TRG would be slightly lighter as well due to it's all polyurethane furniture.

Justin
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

The tikka sporter weighs 10% less than a TRG, but has a single stack magazine (5rds for .308). the Mag release is still a button in front of the mag in which you would have to sort of manipulate with the stock surrounding it. These sporter rifles in the past have been know to shoot 1/2 MOA out of the box and for about 1/3 of the price of a TRG.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

Im a lucky owner of a original Tikka Master Sporter in .308. The master sporter is the real deal. Im shooting a 168gr SMK and I think 42.0 gr Varget and a 210m and it easily a 1 hole gun at 100 yards. Ive shot sub 1" groups at 200 yards with it.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marku</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im a lucky owner of a original Tikka Master Sporter in .308. The master sporter is the real deal. Im shooting a 168gr SMK and I think 42.0 gr Varget and a 210m <span style="color: #FF0000">and it easily a 1 hole gun at 100 yards</span>. Ive shot sub 1" groups at 200 yards with it. </div></div>

cough..cough
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

It's very colorful that's for sure. Anyone know if these are going to be brought into the US and at what cost? Somehow since the tactical is about $1500 I seriously doubt this one is going to be 1/3 of a TRG.... that would be $800.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">cough..cough</div></div>

Please elaborate??
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

You are all missing the most important point with the tikka.
The caliber, as they make it in 6,5x55.
Almost 338 trakectory with half powdercharge and mild recoil.....

Håkan
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marku</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">cough..cough</div></div>

Please elaborate?? </div></div>
I'm not certain, but I think you have been called out, by making a statement like that your gonna have to post a handful of your one hole targets to save face,,,, just saying.
SScott
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Massoud</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sako cleverly offset the downside of the two lug Tikka action by making the bolt throw only 70 degrees instead of 90. So it's only 10 degrees more than the TRG.

A T3 in a W3C could save you 1k more or less, depending. You would then have access to different calibers. However, you wouldn't get the TRG trigger (although you can upgrade to a TRG trigger on your T3) and you wouldn't get the nice Sako double stack magazine. The TRG would be slightly lighter as well due to it's all polyurethane furniture.

Justin

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What does the trigger upgrade cost?
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ToddM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A TRG trigger runs about $425, listed at brownells. </div></div> Damn must be one hell of a trigger!
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you would be better off getting a cg jackson trigger for the tikka
</div></div>

And if you of someone else have a CG 2-stage trigger for the t3 to sell please PM me
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/ Johan
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ToddM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A TRG trigger runs about $425, listed at brownells. </div></div>

When one adds everything together, one might as well save up for a holy grail. Frequently used TRG turn up with accessories in 2300-2500 range. Lack of caliber choice is certainly downside for TRG
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

What's wrong with the stock trigger? I have the original M595 Master Sporter and the trigger is nothing short of perfect. Did they screw up the trigger when they went to the T-3?

I wouldn't say "one hole groups" are easy, but they happen fairly often.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

I think (hope) that price is artificially high. The T3 lite is listed at 1050 and it sells for 519 here. Hopefully these sporters come in well under 1500, otherwise they will be in Sako 85 Varmint territory.

The TRG trigger is better in several ways in my opinion. It is adjustable for position for example, and also it is a two stage trigger, and the bottom mounted safety selector. This is subjective of course. The Tikka trigger has remained the same from the 595 to the T3 as far as I can tell.
Justin
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

Has anyone had opportunity to handle and dissemble this rifle? If it's a T3 design, the recoil lug is aluminum and an obvious weak point. T3 is, like all Tikka, super accurate, but I have heard heavy users shot out the aluminum lug and needed to replace it with steel lug. Has Tikka addressed this issue in the expensive sporter line?

 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

I have testfired it in .308 and I have friends who have it in 6,5x55.
As far as I can recall it has the standard alu recoillug, but I have a hard to to see that as a problem as the recoillug only is a something like a 1/4" metal plate.
So really anyone can switch it out to something else.

I really like the sporter, it has the stock of the TRG but the weight of a hunting rifle and the accuracy of a customgun.

I use to write firearmsreviews hunting mags here, and I have over the years tested loads of guns, and not many times of the years have I felt that I really wanted the gun, but the T3 sporter is certainly one of those.

Just as much as I really felt that Benelli R1 not is for me.............

Håkan
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

The price of nearly $3000 is in Australia, and yes, our dollar is slightly higher than the US. However, shooting in this country is reserved for evil men who go around killing babies and skinning animals alive to feed their satanic bloodlust whilst planning Australia's version of 9/11.... well at least if you listen to our media that is.

T3 Lite's retail for around the MSRP/RRP here, as there is little competition amongst firearms shops. However, in the US it's different. So you may find one dirt cheap. However, i would reccomend buying a stock T3 Varmint, putting it in a Whiskey3/Roedale/Manners stock of your choice, and you would still be paying significantly less than a TRG, as well as having a greater range of calibre choices.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

Håkan- So you've handled both TRG22 and Tikka sporter rifles. I'm trying to decide between a TRG 22 .260 and a Tikka sporter in .260. Either barrel will be 20" because the rifle will be used to hunt with as well as be a range gun. The TRG would be about .6kg heavier. This is sure not an objective question but which would you pick for this?
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

I just took delivery of a Tikka T3 Sporter in 6.5x55 yesterday. I loaded up some ammo and am headed to the range tomorrow. My initial observations are mostly positive but I am a little disappointed in the plastic trigger guard and plastic magazine for the price. The trigger easily adjusted to under 2 lbs but I set it at 2lbs even. There is an Anschutz rail under the forend. The stock didn't come with enough spacers for me but I am 6'7" so I made some more. The screw that holds the cheek piece setting is missing (not the tension screw). I mounted a S&B 12-50 on a EGW 20moa rail and I am anxious to shoot it.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

If I should go for the 260 and didnt care about the money the obvious choise is the TRG if you can live with the extra weight.
I have a Tikka Varmint in 6,5x55 and that was my obvious choise as I cant get TRG in that caliber....

Both guns shoots equally well and I like both of them.

Håkan

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: graywolf.260</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Håkan- So you've handled both TRG22 and Tikka sporter rifles. I'm trying to decide between a TRG 22 .260 and a Tikka sporter in .260. Either barrel will be 20" because the rifle will be used to hunt with as well as be a range gun. The TRG would be about .6kg heavier. This is sure not an objective question but which would you pick for this? </div></div>
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

For those of us in the US with no access to T3 varmint (or other Tikka/SAKO heavy barreled 6.5x55), converting a M695 looks like a viable option. McMillan makes A3-5 stock for Tikka 695 ($700). If one takes into account of base rifle ($500), a heavy barrel and installation ($600) and the cost of McM stock, for about $2000, you can end up with a Tikka M695 (6.5x55) in a McM stock.
It seems a better deal than the T3 sporter at $1700. That said, I am still considering the Sporter because it save a lot of hassles and wait time for customization

I just don't want to re-barrel my T3 Lite already in 6.5x55 because it just ruins a good gun in order to get another

Any thoughts?
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

I handled the sporter before I left my old job. The stock feels like my master sporter but the bottom metal is the t3 bottom metal which I really don't like. Getting to the mag can be a hassle.

There have been a bunch of master sporters for sale here on the hide.

Pm me if you have anymore questions.

Also, we had an engineer from Sako that came in the shop and he had some really exciting things in the works for the Tikka as well as the Sako lines.
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

There is a couple of people in the US that have bought Sporters in 6,5x55 from Eurooptics recently.
So I have a hard time to see the advantage by working on the old Tikkas as there is an spareparts issue on those.

Håkan
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

Just got back from the range with my new Tikka T3 Sporter in 6.5x55. I loaded Sierra 142's in new Lapua brass, no case prep just load them up. Seat bullets .020 off the lands. Here are 4 shot groups at 100 yards for powder charges varying by .5 grains of H4831SC. These are the first shots out of the gun after 2 sighters to get it on at 100. I think it did pretty good.
TikkaT3Sportergroups.jpg

TikkaT3Sporter.jpg
 
Re: Poor mans Sako TRG... Tikka Sporter?

I think the action is identical and the barrels are all made on the same machines. This barrel is about 24" long and .865" diameter at the muzzle.