Preemptive EMP work signed

[Gunfighter14e2]

Executive Order on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Purpose. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) has the potential to disrupt, degrade, and damage technology and critical infrastructure systems...

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[W54/XM-388]

It would be interesting to see if they get anything actually done or it just stays in the talking & reports stage.
Seems long past due given our enemies.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Thank fucking god. Wasn't bad enough in 2012 a fucking solar storm almost turned this country's electronic infrastructure into a pile of molten steel and copper. Imagine transformers exploding, lines cooking off, people outside getting literally microwaved alive, and all unshielded electronics are fucking useless. You can't call for help, you can't use any electronics other than that which were either shielded or use vacuum tubes in the case of such an event. We would be fucked, capital F fucked. Right now any country doesn't even have to land a nuke on our soil, they could detonate it a mile over our territory and the EMP alone would fuck us worse than ever before.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Right now any country doesn't even have to land a nuke on our soil, they could detonate it a mile over our territory and the EMP alone would fuck us worse than ever before.

No, a mile up is technically going to be a full on fireball people melting machine. You won't even generate much of an EMP.

For Max effect first a nuke is "tuned" for gamma production. Then it would be detonated 100-300km up in the atmosphere. Center one over the Appalachians, one over the Rockies, should get the whole burrito.

 

[ArmyJerry]

You know what is impervious to EMP’s,,,,Ammo, that’s what...BMA

 

[Rocketvapor]

What's the wavelength of your typical metallic AR?

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

No, a mile up is technically going to be a full on fireball people melting machine. You won't even generate much of an EMP.

For Max effect first a nuke is "tuned" for gamma production. Then it would be detonated 100-300km up in the atmosphere. Center one over the Appalachians, one over the Rockies, should get the whole burrito.

Thanks for the correction. I have a cocktail party depth of knowledge on nukes, and I just mentioned them for the comparative detriment. My buddy's dad works for NASA and he's always raving about the 2012 solar storm, so while literally gleaned from a cocktail party setting, my education on that front is a bit more significant. It's the shit nightmares are made of, basically.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

It's the shit nightmares are made of, basically.

What scars me is the man portable EMP field directables that can target just one office in a whole building. I see these as being more worry some than any Nuke, as we know the game after one gets popped. Just think want could be done with a MP/EMP direct-able device. Contrary to some beliefs it does not take much to build a low yield EMP device, everything can be had from GayBay an any 2 bit auto parts store or junk yard. One thats direct-able is something else but with enough time an money, I'm guessing a outstanding 4th year EE student could do it after a few T&E's.

 

[AIAW]

What's the wavelength of your typical metallic AR?

Roughly about 100 MHz!

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

It's pretty expensive to make one that's powerful. The copper and power source being the biggest expenses.

That said, I may or may not have, at one time or never, fashioned a small device that released an EMP pulse and would fry things as large as home computers when put up against the case and activated. If that were so, it would have been very cheap to do as you said.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Roughly about 100 MHz!

Actually I asked the wrong question. It's not wavelength but the kilovolts per meter that will be developed in your rifle. Or between your safe door and the body of the safe.
Once welded shut the contents will be pretty safe.

and for you tin foil hat guys, little blobs of melted aluminum is going to hurt.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

="Cheyenne Bodie, post: 7636978, member: 130246"] it would have been very cheap to do as you said.

Cheap only depends on bang for your endgame, buck.

 

[Rocketvapor]

We'll be safe, at last.
This will be let by the President's technical family members advisors and overseen by the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

No more lost sleep.

 

[AIAW]

Actually I asked the wrong question. It's not wavelength but the kilovolts per meter that will be developed in your rifle. Or between your safe door and the body of the safe.
Once welded shut the contents will be pretty safe.

and for you tin foil hat guys, little blobs of melted aluminum is going to hurt.

Yeah, should be. EMP shielding generally only needs to be relatively thin (spacecraft/satellite use is the best example).

Here is the old 2008 EMP Threat Assessment: http://www.futurescience.com/emp/A2473-EMP-Commission.pdf

Includes scenarios and remediation recommendations.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Actually I asked the wrong question. It's not wavelength but the kilovolts per meter that will be developed in your rifle. Or between your safe door and the body of the safe.
Once welded shut the contents will be pretty safe.

There is tape made for HVAC systems that works perfect for this, but remember any opening a full wave form can pass threw needs to be sealed also. I found this by accident when I was seeking a way to increase the ground plane of a fiberglass camper shell. I had to weave a 16 gage bare copper wire under the tape as after 3 over lapping strips the ohm reading would increase to 0.02 Just one strip will do a safe or metal garbage can, just remember do not ground the cage an everything you want to protect has to be isolated from the protective metal shell, or copper cage.
Tactic's may play out here as well, just because one was popped,.... does not mean another one a dozen more may not be waiting in the wings,...

 

[ArmyJerry]

Wait a month

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Wait a month

For electric or como, I'm good with waiting as long as it takes, the sheep ain't that way,...

 

[Nik H]

Executive Order on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Purpose. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) has the potential to disrupt, degrade, and damage technology and critical infrastructure systems...

www.whitehouse.gov

Nice EO but it is lip service. Hardening our infrastructure "critical infrastructure" would require a tear down and rebuild of most systems. It would take years of not a decade or more.

Not saying it isn't possible or necessary but it would make the Apollo program look small

 

[W54/XM-388]

Tactic's may play out here as well, just because one was popped,.... does not mean another one a dozen more may not be waiting in the wings,...

Especially if the Communist types are doing a false flag event, or are piggybacking on some "natural" event to make things actually bad.

I could see them setting off other things later on if they pick up too many RF or power signatures from places that have a backup plan for a single event.

 

[Nik H]

You know what is impervious to EMP’s,,,,Ammo, that’s what...BMA

Yes sir!

 

[Nik H]

I'm guessing a outstanding 4th year EE student could do it after a few T&E's.

An outstanding 3rd year could do it...

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

An outstanding 3rd year could do it...

A direct-able w/o touching any other office? A general device is within the ability's of local hillbilly's around here,...

 

[Nik H]

A direct-able w/o touching any other office? A general device is within the ability's of local hillbilly's around here,...

Direct-able EMP is an interesting concept. Can't say I have ever thought about it. It would have all sorts of great possibilities.

 

[ArmyJerry]

It already exists

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

It's easier to direct, omnidirectional requires more power.

 

[Nik H]

It already exists

In the Matrix

 

[jff_stvns]

It would be bad very bad, but it just might be the cleansing that America so desperately needs, or not.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Direct-able EMP is an interesting concept. Can't say I have ever thought about it. It would have all sorts of great possibilities.

A handfull of nation states have had these for about 7-8 years.

 

[Rocketvapor]

When I worked at the NASA 'Rocket Factory' we conducted many EMP and lightning strike tests.

 

[footsteps]

Storage of your SHTF electronics in a homemade Faraday Cage is you're best bet to stay ahead of the EMP. 2way radios Ham Radio equipment automotive parts for non computer controlled cars. And a Faraday cage can be made to protect your garage lots of good info on you tube. Also how to test your homemade cages.... If the signal from a 2way radio can't get out the EMP waves can't get in. My2C

 

[uffduh]

It would be bad very bad, but it just might be the cleansing that America so desperately needs, or not.

SH branded Faraday cages for devices to access said forum. 100% agree with you otherwise.

 

[Strykervet]

I remember in a math or physics class we discussed this, it could have been an MIT or Cambridge UK seminar though (I got to learn a lot of really cool cutting edge shit there, met Sami Assaf who is not only hot but she proved there's no such thing as "random" but that randomness exists in degrees).

Anyway, one idea on tap for a small directional EMP has to do with boosting a frequency using an shaped charge. Basically blowing up a speaker, but more complex and the math involved in getting it right has to be perfectly applied, the perfect amount and shape of explosive placed the proper distance from the ouput source to name a few. The idea is to use the explosive to compress the frequency output of the "speaker". On paper it works for sure, as to whether it's been done yet, I don't know.

But a directional one would have a lot more use IMO making it possible to target specific points and it won't have a range measured in miles but more like feet or yards depending on size. Once the science is done and a prototype tested, they could be mass produced for next to nothing (but since tax dollars are involved each one will be millions of dollars I'm sure).

Supposedly we lost 16 advanced nuclear weapon designs, ones nobody knows about but that did include improved neutron bomb capabilities among others, when Los Alamos burned in the late 90's. A Chinese national stole a hard drive and we lost it all. I'm sure an EMP weapons was included.

An EMP did some damage in Hawaii in the (60's?) when a nuke was setoff 250 miles above the Pacific (that's about 150 miles past the space station and it would've destroyed pretty much any satellite around).