So I have a Ruckus action on order. They guarantee tolerances, but for some reason they dont provide the information needed to get a prefit ordered from a local smith. Im wondering what information is needed to get a prefit made?
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That's correct. My buddy just called Defiance, and they sent him the print. I'd upload it, but I don't have a copy since I switched computers.Have your smith email or call them or just have them measure your action.
Needing to measure the action completely defeats the purpose of pre-fits. They shot me down cold when I asked for a print 2 months ago. Hopefully they've changed that policy now.Have your smith email or call them or just have them measure your action.
That’s why you should get your smith to call.Needing to measure the action completely defeats the purpose of pre-fits. They shot me down cold when I asked for a print 2 months ago. Hopefully they've changed that policy now.
I've threaded 3-400 prefits in the last 2 yrs, granted just part time. If that's not good enough, oh well.That’s why you should get your smith to call.
Maybe you didn’t inspire confidence to them.
Well without a print or an action to measure it not much of a pre fit is it.I've threaded 3-400 prefits in the last 2 yrs, granted just part time. If that's not good enough, oh well.
They told me that they hadn't released a print to any of the "big" barrel makers, but instead had chose to send out loaner actions so the individuals could take their own measurements, which they also offered to send me.
The "just have your Smith measure the action" comment makes me think that most people are just ignorant as to how far the pre-fit game has come in the last few years and the new possibilities that go along with that option.
I'm no gunsmith or machinist, but one would think you would want the print with the +/- tolerance. If a guy were to measure an action that was on the high or low side of the tolerance, I would think the potential for issues with fitment would be higher. The ability to measure 100 actions would likely allow you to please the statisticians and have a relatively good handle on both ends of the dimensional tolerances.
If they are truly doing business in this regard, it does not inspire a lot of confidence as a consumer.
Ok, I dont pretend to be a gunsmith or a machinist. I let the professionals do their job, and I do mine.
But what does guaranteeing tolerances do for the consumer if the smith still has to get the specs off of their action in hand? Marketing? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to educate myself.
If companies like Proof are able to manufacture prefits for these actions due to tightly controlled tolerances on the action, then what is stopping others like my smith? Believe me, Id love to grab a proof prefit, but unfortunately that isn't exactly the most financially feasible and with COVID halting everything at the border for months, I would love to be able to send some specs to a manufacturer, and have them spin me up a prefit. Also, shipping a $2100 (Canadian) action across the country twice with a completely inept shipping service like Canada Post is why I wanted to go the prefit route. If that's not doable, that's fine, and really isn't a slight against Defiance. They produce phenomenal actions, and I wouldn't have placed an order for one if I thought they were trying to screw me or had an inferior product. I had plenty of choices, but I chose them for a reason.
I'm just genuinely curious what the tolerance guarantee is for, if not prefits.