Rifle Scopes Preimier Reticle or S&B
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Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
mildot326,
the single turn turret offers 22 or 15 MILs in one revolution depending on which model you choose (22 MIL ST only available for the 3-15x model). The turret has a zero stop that you won't have to adjust, it just stops ~0.5 Mils below the marked zero on the turret, so you just sight in your rifle, zero the turret (no tools required using the LeverLock) and you're done.
The Double turn has 15 MILs of elevation in one revolution, but you can keep on turning into a second revolution, with an indicator button popping out at the base of the turret so there is a visual and tactile indication that you are on the second revolution. There also is a second set of numbers above the first row for the second revolution. Overall available elevation in this configuration (provided an appropriately canted base is used) is about 27 MILs. The DT turret also features a zero stop just like the ST version. If you choose the MTC feature, you can just dial all the way down until you hit the zero stop and dial back until the first heavy click and you're zeroed, while at the same time having the ability to dial a couple of clicks below zero for correcting minor shifts of POI without rezeroing the knobs.
There's avideo on youtube that describes the function of the DT turret and MTC far better than words:
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mildot326,
the single turn turret offers 22 or 15 MILs in one revolution depending on which model you choose (22 MIL ST only available for the 3-15x model). The turret has a zero stop that you won't have to adjust, it just stops ~0.5 Mils below the marked zero on the turret, so you just sight in your rifle, zero the turret (no tools required using the LeverLock) and you're done.
The Double turn has 15 MILs of elevation in one revolution, but you can keep on turning into a second revolution, with an indicator button popping out at the base of the turret so there is a visual and tactile indication that you are on the second revolution. There also is a second set of numbers above the first row for the second revolution. Overall available elevation in this configuration (provided an appropriately canted base is used) is about 27 MILs. The DT turret also features a zero stop just like the ST version. If you choose the MTC feature, you can just dial all the way down until you hit the zero stop and dial back until the first heavy click and you're zeroed, while at the same time having the ability to dial a couple of clicks below zero for correcting minor shifts of POI without rezeroing the knobs.
There's avideo on youtube that describes the function of the DT turret and MTC far better than words:
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Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thinking on "selling the farm" for one, or at least getting rid of the Leupold Mark 4. I'm kinda partial to the PR line?
Where can you view the reticules? </div></div>
You can see the reticle in the video below at 3:26 and the illumination at 4:23...
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Thanks,
Mason @ CST
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thinking on "selling the farm" for one, or at least getting rid of the Leupold Mark 4. I'm kinda partial to the PR line?
Where can you view the reticules? </div></div>
You can see the reticle in the video below at 3:26 and the illumination at 4:23...
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Thanks,
Mason @ CST
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm looking at the 5X25 model, I have a seller with one that is near new. Would that be too much scope for say my AICS build in .223? I also have a Savage 10FLP in .308 that it may go on as well.</div></div>
If it is what you want, slap it on and go! The AICS isn't going to be small or light no matter what you do. Use pict. rails on both rifles and it is fairly painless to transfer the scope between rifles.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm looking at the 5X25 model, I have a seller with one that is near new. Would that be too much scope for say my AICS build in .223? I also have a Savage 10FLP in .308 that it may go on as well.</div></div>
If it is what you want, slap it on and go! The AICS isn't going to be small or light no matter what you do. Use pict. rails on both rifles and it is fairly painless to transfer the scope between rifles.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
Thanks, I've read through alot of threads on scopes on this site.Thought about the S&B and the PRH, and the BORS system to use with my Leupold.I've used Leupold and Nightforce.This time the PRH is want I'm really looking for.Sticking with the Mildot reticle and the old math.I have a chance to get an 8X25 at a great price, I'm going for it!!
Thanks to all the troops who "chimed in".The feedback helps,along with the video links.
Thanks, I've read through alot of threads on scopes on this site.Thought about the S&B and the PRH, and the BORS system to use with my Leupold.I've used Leupold and Nightforce.This time the PRH is want I'm really looking for.Sticking with the Mildot reticle and the old math.I have a chance to get an 8X25 at a great price, I'm going for it!!
Thanks to all the troops who "chimed in".The feedback helps,along with the video links.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
For me the premier Is a once in a lifetime scope purchase bi don't know if I'll ever have 3k for a scope again in the future. So I move the damn thing to any gun I can. Makes the quick adjust zero well worth it to me.
For me the premier Is a once in a lifetime scope purchase bi don't know if I'll ever have 3k for a scope again in the future. So I move the damn thing to any gun I can. Makes the quick adjust zero well worth it to me.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooting4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For me the premier Is a once in a lifetime scope purchase bi don't know if I'll ever have 3k for a scope again in the future. So I move the damn thing to any gun I can. Makes the quick adjust zero well worth it to me. </div></div>
Those are my exact feelings as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooting4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For me the premier Is a once in a lifetime scope purchase bi don't know if I'll ever have 3k for a scope again in the future. So I move the damn thing to any gun I can. Makes the quick adjust zero well worth it to me. </div></div>
Those are my exact feelings as well.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
Nobody ever mentions this, but the Premier doesn't tunnel. The S&B does. I hate the tunneling, and its nice to not have the FOV get bigger the whole way down the magnification range.
Nobody ever mentions this, but the Premier doesn't tunnel. The S&B does. I hate the tunneling, and its nice to not have the FOV get bigger the whole way down the magnification range.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
The S&B are really nice scope but I like the PRH 5-25x56mm a little more. The PRH 3-15x would work great on a 223 and a 308.
Mike @ CST
The S&B are really nice scope but I like the PRH 5-25x56mm a little more. The PRH 3-15x would work great on a 223 and a 308.
Mike @ CST
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
I have the Premier 5-25x.
I don't own an S&B, but looking through them I don't feel like I'm giving up anything.
I have the Premier 5-25x.
I don't own an S&B, but looking through them I don't feel like I'm giving up anything.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
Nice set-up, what rings (and ring height) did you go with? Looks to me you could go a little lower (not to criticize), at least that's what I'd prefer for me.
Nice set-up, what rings (and ring height) did you go with? Looks to me you could go a little lower (not to criticize), at least that's what I'd prefer for me.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's a couple of new pics with some new glass,
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Awsome scope! I hope I get my scope soon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mildot326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's a couple of new pics with some new glass,
Awsome scope! I hope I get my scope soon.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
Not trying to hijack the thread but what exactly are the MTC adjustments? I have tried searching for an explanation but have not found anything yet.
Not trying to hijack the thread but what exactly are the MTC adjustments? I have tried searching for an explanation but have not found anything yet.
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
Not trying to sound any dumber that I already do but what does that mean?
Not trying to sound any dumber that I already do but what does that mean?
Re: Preimier Reticle or S&B
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maelstrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not trying to sound any dumber that I already do but what does that mean? </div></div> it means that every full mil you get a clunk "a heavier click" not just a click as you do on .1 mil clicks.its just a way to dial without looking at the turrets.so on my S&B if i wanted to dial 1 mil it would feel/sound as follows.click,click,click,click,click,click,click,click,click,clunk
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maelstrom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not trying to sound any dumber that I already do but what does that mean? </div></div> it means that every full mil you get a clunk "a heavier click" not just a click as you do on .1 mil clicks.its just a way to dial without looking at the turrets.so on my S&B if i wanted to dial 1 mil it would feel/sound as follows.click,click,click,click,click,click,click,click,click,clunk
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