Rifle Scopes Quality of Horus scopes?

[a1188323]

Been on their website and their scopes seem pretty well priced. Im looking for a couple of horus'ed scopes for the team, and these seem like a lot of bang for the buck. But I dont know anyone that has one and searching on here yielded no results. Anyone have any experiences with these optics? Worth the purchase or should I look elsewhere?

Also, any other recommendations for an optic with a horus? Im trying to get a couple of decent scopes for under 3k, if possible

 

[Lowlight]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

Horus scopes are very low quality... most people pick Horus reticles in better scopes if that is truly the direction they want to go.

Not to mention Horus themselves have horrendous customer service and with their brand of scopes you most certainly may use it.

I have chip that hasn't worked since I got it and they have never once answered a call or email about it.

If your price point is $3k, I would stick to something else not to mention a different reticle... after you use the Horus for a while, most people want to lose it for less. In low light, wooded areas, certain urban locations you can lose the lines and impact behind a line -- although some designs are better than others.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

I'm not here to bust your balls, but the rules require you to fill out your profile.

Horus products - I own their hardware/software package that died on me and I don't get any customer support for it. I've owned almost a dozen scopes now, had several where the reticle came lose and spinned around like a clock. No of the glass is above mediocre at best. I like their reticles and because I learned their system, I can make their scopes work for me as intended. However, after 5 years of using their scopes and NOT getting customer support, I stongly recommend people to stay away from their products. If you have to have the reticle, buy a US Optics scope with the Horus Vision reticle option.

 

[ORD]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

In addition to filing out your profile, another key thing to pick up with the site is the use of the search engine for numerous responses to questions like, for example, "Quality of Horus Scopes?"

Here you go:

Sniper's Hide Google Search Engine

There are several threads of good reading on the quality of the Horus scopes, pi$$ poor quality of their warranty and CS, usefulness of their reticles, etc.

 

[a1188323]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

filled out a profile, was unaware it was required. Also, just because something is out there, doesnt mean I know the exact terminology to pull it up on a search engine. LIke I said, I tried to search, found nothing.

 

[Lindy]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">filled out a profile, was unaware it was required.</div></div>

Actually, it's <span style="font-weight: bold">not</span> required - unless you're selling something, and you also need 100 substantive posts to do that.

But it's a good idea to fill out your profile. If you have a question about something, and people know where you are, you'll often get an offer to meet up with a local, who can show you the gear or technique you have a question about.

Back to the original question - Horus scopes are of low quality, have a poor and very limited warranty, and are often impossible to get service on. Personally, I'll set myself on fire before doing business with them <span style="text-decoration: underline">again</span>.

 

[ORD]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a1188323</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LIke I said, I tried to search, found nothing. </div></div>

Really?

Because I just tried it for s#!Ts and giggles and when all I type into the search engine is something like Horus scopes or Horus reticles, I get multiple returns on the scopes themselves (Are they any good? Any feedback? etc.), the reticles, etc. Oh well...maybe I'm just lucky, but you might try it again using the google engine I linked you to.

If not, then let me just mirror LL and Lindy's comments...

The Horus scopes themselves suffer from quality issues and often do not hold up. That lack of quality is made more problematic because the Horus warranty (a whopping 1yr) and customer service might as well be non-existent. They are just not a company that seems to want to stand behind their products or take care of customers. If you really think you want to try out a Horus reticle, then do yourself a favor and at least buy one in a USO, S&B, etc. that will hold up to some use/abuse, will be warrantied and looked after by a company that knows how to handle customers, and a scope that you can at least get a good bit of your money back out of if you decide the reticle isn't for you.

Its your money...do as you will, but you have been cautioned now by several people with first-hand experience with Horus products, that have seen the inadequacies of their scopes and the lack of support, that are trying to assist you before you get yourself into an epic FAIL!

 

[BCP]

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Everything I've heard about Horus has been "stay the hell away". Unless this is money that has been budgeted specifically to teach people on the horus system I'd say get something else, 3k could buy a lot of mai tai's.

 

[a1188323]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a1188323</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LIke I said, I tried to search, found nothing. </div></div>

Really?

Because I just tried it for s#!Ts and giggles and when all I type into the search engine is something like Horus scopes or Horus reticles, I get multiple returns on the scopes themselves (Are they any good? Any feedback? etc.), the reticles, etc. Oh well...maybe I'm just lucky, but you might try it again using the google engine I linked you to.

If not, then let me just mirror LL and Lindy's comments...

The Horus scopes themselves suffer from quality issues and often do not hold up. That lack of quality is made more problematic because the Horus warranty (a whopping 1yr) and customer service might as well be non-existent. They are just not a company that seems to want to stand behind their products or take care of customers. If you really think you want to try out a Horus reticle, then do yourself a favor and at least buy one in a USO, S&B, etc. that will hold up to some use/abuse, will be warrantied and looked after by a company that knows how to handle customers, and a scope that you can at least get a good bit of your money back out of if you decide the reticle isn't for you.

Its your money...do as you will, but you have been cautioned now by several people with first-hand experience with Horus products, that have seen the inadequacies of their scopes and the lack of support, that are trying to assist you before you get yourself into an epic FAIL! </div></div>

I get it, Im not a retard

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

I really think it's hit or miss. I have a 5-20 Falcon with a H37 on my personal M24 and my spotter for the int sniper comp shot a 5-20 Falcon on his 16" OBR. I also know of 3 scopes that out of the box didn't last a week. It's a crap shoot. I also agree with poor parallax adjustment, and once zeroed I dare not touch the elevation or windage knobs. But if you get one that works than it is a good scope for the money.
Everyone here likes the 1.5-8 power blackbird with the H58 on their 5.56 guns. Mostly 16" OBR lites. They seem to hold up pretty well. and are really accurate.
While the scope itself leaves something to be desired, I am a huge fan of the reticle and the Atrag ballistic program. And no I promise I'm not a horus salesman, or getting kickbacks.

 

[BCP]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a1188323</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I get it, Im not a retard </div></div>

Well, if you still want one check with leupold in regards to a mil discount on one. The Leupold models with the horus reticle are all 2k+ but with mil discount who knows they might actually be reasonable.

Edit: Nightforce is supposed to offer one as well but I have no idea how much it is...

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

I think S&B offers a 200$ discount for Mil, LE. So it'll only run you about 3,000$ then.
NF is offering the H58 in their FFP F1 3.5-15. I think they will be available in JAN or FEB. I used one in OCT and really like id.

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

I have one of the FFP 6.5-20 Leupold w/H58 on a XM2010 and it is pretty darn good. Only shot it out to 800 meters, but it tracks well, glass is good and the parallax adj is crisp and clear. Don't know the cost. Has a locking elevation turret and a screw on cap over the windage knob. I like it.

 

[BCP]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.J. McQuade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't know the cost.</div></div>

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=215815

Looks like it's an additional 700$ for the reticle

 

[aggiesig]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

cool reticles, crappy scopes.

you can get some of their reticles in some other manufacturers scopes which would be where I'd put my money if I were dead set on it.

In the end you will probably want to drop the reticle too they are very busy, and very dark...

 

[CTone03]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

I have a Horus Hawk scope and have to say that they're alright. The warranty is the biggest concern, and if you asked me if I would buy another one I would definitely say . . .no. For the warranty reason.

As for the scope, you won't be dialing on dope, so there's not as much to go wrong mechanically speaking. I wanted the reticle, but didn't want to spend $1k to find out if they were OK. I've had the Hawk for about two years now, and it's done everything I've asked it to without issue. The reticle just works; if you want to just worry about shooting without fiddling with knobs, the reticle is super simple. Find the load that you want to shoot, chrono it, and make a drop chart with JBM Ballistics and you're pretty much set. I wouldn't trust mine to hard work OCONUS, but I do trust it to do anything here in the USA that I ask it to.

Some may bitch about the glass, but I find it to be above average; not S&B/Premier/high end territory at all, but on a clear day I could resolve .270 shot holes at 350 yards on cardboard without fanfare. As for toughness and lifetime durability, I could not say. Mine rides from the safe to the range in a padded case, and it has not lost zero in the two years I've been shooting with it. I find no fault in the Horus scope that I have, except that Horus could care less about backing their optics. That tells me a lot.

I am in the process of transferring mine to a family member to go on a 7mm Mag where it will see limited duty, and I think it will serve well there. I have confidence in the scope, but I want to learn how to better dial on my dope, so I have a non-HD SS scope on order right now. It's a matter of preference.

That is what I know as an owner of a Horus scope. They're simple and effective to use. I would recommend the Hawk for range work and hunting, but would not suggest using them when lives are on the line. For that I would order the Horus reticle from a scope maker that gives a damn about what they create with their hands. I hope this gives you some insight, and feel free to ask me anything at all with my limited experience from this company.

 

[Scimitar]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

Let you dog lick the glass of your current scope and you get a good picture. Turrets movements like a Barska.

 

[Graham]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

If you have 3K you have enough money to buy one good scope. Why would anyone who is fortunate enought to be able to drop 3-large on a scope elect to buy multiple pieces of crap instead?

 

[fdkay]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

If you are trying to outfit several people with a quality scope and have a limit of 3k, get 3 Bushnell 3-12 FFP tactical scopes and decent quality mounting hardware.

 

[cyrekzz]

Re: Quality of Horus scopes?

yeah - if you're looking for a couple of scopes under 3k - Leupold, Nightforce, even SWFA SS, or Bushness 3-12 FFP. You looking for first focal plane or you don't care? Matching your click vals and reticle? since you mentioned the 3-12x - that bushnell seems to hold up to abuse as per Lowlights review

I had a horus hawk too, found it ok for 100 - 400 yds - after that, the picture gets a little blurry even though the reticle is clear.