I ordered 400 rounds of Southwest 175gr FC brass. The same stuff in the last group buy Southwest offered.
Today was a great day to try it out. 80 degrees and light winds, so I snuck off this morning and got some range time in.
Keep in mind I am working on shooting prone and my form is not the best as you can see in the targets.
I bought these for a class I am attending next weekend with Vapor Trail Tactical on the reports there was not any difference in accuracy from the Southwest Match 175 (w/Winchester brass). I will be using my Gap 10 in the class. The match 175's shoot great and surpass the FGMM 175's and shoot with the 168's at 100 yds. The FGMM 168's shoot the best at 100 for me and my rifle.
Rifle: Gap 10 18" fluted barrel
Optics: S&B 4-16x42 P3
Harris Bipod
Prone on concrete
100yds
Middle diamond is FGMM 168 checking zero. First shots of the day.
Top Left: 3 shot group FGMM 168's. My form is lacking!
Top Right: 5 shot group with the SW 175's. Low left. I leave the scope alone. I notice 3 shots touching and 2 flyers. Might have been me.
Bottom Left: 4 shot group with SW 175's. HMMM, a little tighter group.
At this point a meet a fellow at the range that is set up with a crono (I don't have one). He lets me use it to crono the SW 175's and the FGMM 168's. The bottom right are the 5 shots through the crono. I was not trying hard to group them as I really did not want to hold him up.
Crono results. Southwest Ammo 175 SMK in FC brass.
2539
2594
2534
2608
2576
AVG: 2570
Extreme Spread: 74 FT/S MV
The three shots in the low left diamond off the grid are the crono shots from the FGMM168's.
2467
2485
2502
AVG: 2485
Extreme spread: 35 FT/S MV
I know, 3 shots with the FGMM and 5 with the SW. Like I said I was trying not to hold the man up.
This was the first target of the day. The morning temp was probably around 55-60 degrees. It was 81 when I left the range.
Second Target
So, my first target was less than stellar. I need to work on my form. Above is the second target of the day. I decide to get down to business. I split the target with FGMM 168's on the right and SW 175's on the left.
My first group was the low right target with 168's. Not good, I know this ammo shoots great but my form was out.
Second group was top right with 168's. I got my shit together and WOW, best group I've ever shot! 5 rounds one black dot down there.
Bottom left: SW 175's. 5 shot group off the grid. It's ok but I was expecting better from this ammo.
Top Left: That looks like shit, maybe my form again!
Middle big diamond: Lets finish off this last box and go home! That is an 8 shot group in the center. I think to my self, thats not to bad.
Low left in the diamond: I adjust the scope three clicks up and right 3 clicks. I start shooting this group. 8 rounds in the first mag and 4 in the second for a total of 12 rounds. The last four I was trying not to make the hole any bigger, I didn't.
In my opinion, the SW 175's loaded in FC brass does not shoot as well as the SW 175's loaded in Winchester brass. The Win brass loads just seem to shot well with little effort. Maybe it's me. But, if I know ammo will shoot and I have confidence in it I can usually get my form to be as good as the gear. This ammo just does not give me a lot of confidence.
What say you, was it me or do you see some variance in the ammo?
Today was a great day to try it out. 80 degrees and light winds, so I snuck off this morning and got some range time in.
Keep in mind I am working on shooting prone and my form is not the best as you can see in the targets.
I bought these for a class I am attending next weekend with Vapor Trail Tactical on the reports there was not any difference in accuracy from the Southwest Match 175 (w/Winchester brass). I will be using my Gap 10 in the class. The match 175's shoot great and surpass the FGMM 175's and shoot with the 168's at 100 yds. The FGMM 168's shoot the best at 100 for me and my rifle.
Rifle: Gap 10 18" fluted barrel
Optics: S&B 4-16x42 P3
Harris Bipod
Prone on concrete
100yds
Middle diamond is FGMM 168 checking zero. First shots of the day.
Top Left: 3 shot group FGMM 168's. My form is lacking!
Top Right: 5 shot group with the SW 175's. Low left. I leave the scope alone. I notice 3 shots touching and 2 flyers. Might have been me.
Bottom Left: 4 shot group with SW 175's. HMMM, a little tighter group.
At this point a meet a fellow at the range that is set up with a crono (I don't have one). He lets me use it to crono the SW 175's and the FGMM 168's. The bottom right are the 5 shots through the crono. I was not trying hard to group them as I really did not want to hold him up.
Crono results. Southwest Ammo 175 SMK in FC brass.
2539
2594
2534
2608
2576
AVG: 2570
Extreme Spread: 74 FT/S MV
The three shots in the low left diamond off the grid are the crono shots from the FGMM168's.
2467
2485
2502
AVG: 2485
Extreme spread: 35 FT/S MV
I know, 3 shots with the FGMM and 5 with the SW. Like I said I was trying not to hold the man up.
This was the first target of the day. The morning temp was probably around 55-60 degrees. It was 81 when I left the range.
Second Target
So, my first target was less than stellar. I need to work on my form. Above is the second target of the day. I decide to get down to business. I split the target with FGMM 168's on the right and SW 175's on the left.
My first group was the low right target with 168's. Not good, I know this ammo shoots great but my form was out.
Second group was top right with 168's. I got my shit together and WOW, best group I've ever shot! 5 rounds one black dot down there.
Bottom left: SW 175's. 5 shot group off the grid. It's ok but I was expecting better from this ammo.
Top Left: That looks like shit, maybe my form again!
Middle big diamond: Lets finish off this last box and go home! That is an 8 shot group in the center. I think to my self, thats not to bad.
Low left in the diamond: I adjust the scope three clicks up and right 3 clicks. I start shooting this group. 8 rounds in the first mag and 4 in the second for a total of 12 rounds. The last four I was trying not to make the hole any bigger, I didn't.
In my opinion, the SW 175's loaded in FC brass does not shoot as well as the SW 175's loaded in Winchester brass. The Win brass loads just seem to shot well with little effort. Maybe it's me. But, if I know ammo will shoot and I have confidence in it I can usually get my form to be as good as the gear. This ammo just does not give me a lot of confidence.
What say you, was it me or do you see some variance in the ammo?
