F T/R Competition Range Session - Progress Report

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I went to the range this afternoon and shot the following 10 shot strings by firing 10 rounds at a target center then driving down to recover the target and placing a new one. Distance was 530 yards:

90-2X with 3-8’s
93-2X with 1-8
95-4X with 2-8’s
96-2X

I shot better except there would be a lull in the wind, which I do not see, and that is when I sent the 8’s. The wind was left to right and all of my 8's were to the left. Somehow I need to learn how to see the wind in the mirage such that I am not shooting blindly through the wind.

Progress.
 
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it is usually the wind in between me and the target that likes to kick my butt....try backing the parallex off to half the distance between you and the target to spot changes as well
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SNAFUBAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is usually the wind in between me and the target that likes to kick my butt....try backing the parallex off to half the distance between you and the target to spot changes as well </div></div>

Thank you SNAFU
 
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My NF parallax is on the objective so I don't play with it while I'm shooting to see mirage. Wind at the target doesn't effect the bullet, it's already there, I use a spotter and focus about 1/2 way to the target then aim the scope at something out at target distance that lets you see the movement. On our range I use the big number boards in front of the targets.

Mirage will show changes before the flags will.
Mirage lays flat at about 12MPH so above that you need something else, but a less than that it is useful, but then again the clouds can roll in and it vanishes.

You'll have to shoot and learn what the mirage means to your rifle. There are exceptions to all rules, that said, one rule is don't shoot into a boil. Usually a boil means that conditions are about to change, so by the time you get out of the scope, into the rifle and sling one down there is a pretty good chance it didn't go down the middle. Just be aware that a wind at or away from you can look like a boil.

I can't look at the mirage yet and know what I need to dial, but I can look and see if it is moving like it was last time I shot, and if it is faster/slower then I need to either dial something or I need to hold off. I prefer to dial.



I have this discussion with the sling shooters pretty regularly. Shooting sling is harder to master, but scoring high is harder in TR because wind reading is so important. One MPH of full value wind is a point. On the other hand, if we were shooting on the HP targets everyone would be shooting clean and matches would be decided on X count.

A note on flags that I just figured out. All of the wind velocity vs flag positions that are shown in the range books seem to be based on the old cotton flags. They were heavier and responded less. I've finally figured out that the new nylon flags stand out about 2x as much as what is shown in anything I've seen in print so cut the values shown in your range book in half.
 
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One problem with a shoot 10 and then go look practice is that you tend to get the shots on paper faster than you can in a match. Even with good target service you are going to shoot over 15 minutes or so for 20 shots, maybe more and the longer you go the more the wind can (and will) change.
 
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We held our monthly 500 yard match (shot at 530 yards) yesterday on MR-65 targets. I learned a lot. You could see the mirage well and the wind was blowing 10-15 mph and switching, full value. It is the first time I could clearly see the mirage and use it to make wind calls.

I shot a 93-2x (out of 100) which was enough for 3rd in F/TR and ranked 5th best out of both divisions (TR and Open). I had two bad wind calls resulting in two 8's but still managed a 93. The field had a total of 30 shooters.

This was my first match score over 90 and it was a great day and great fun.

<span style="font-style: italic">The road goes on forever and the party never ends.</span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: b_4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We held our monthly 500 yard match (shot at 530 yards) yesterday on MR-65 targets. I learned a lot. You could see the mirage well and the wind was blowing 10-15 mph and switching, full value. It is the first time I could clearly see the mirage and use it to make wind calls.

I shot a 93-2x (out of 100) which was enough for 3rd in F/TR and ranked 5th best out of both divisions (TR and Open). I had two bad wind calls resulting in two 8's but still managed a 93. The field had a total of 30 shooters.

This was my first match score over 90 and it was a great day and great fun.

<span style="font-style: italic">The road goes on forever and the party never ends.</span> </div></div>

Good shooting. It is so damned easy to get to that 8 ring isn't it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is so damned easy to get to that 8 ring isn't it.</div></div>

It is easier for some of us! LOL the 8 ring is the bane of my existence.