Recoil killed my rings!

[Nuke Man]

Took the Tikka out to get some DOPE at various yardages this morning. All of a sudden my groups started opening up. It's an unbraked 300 win mag and I had already put 15 rounds downrange, so I figured it was me. Put it away and went to work with the AR. When I got home and started to clean it this is what I found. They are Warne Maxima rings.


So I'm thinking I am going to either A) mount a standard picatinny rail, or B) Try some Talley Lightweights that mount with the threaded holes on the action.

 

[mdmp5]

You need lugs for heavy recoil, not those half assed button-like lugs that stick in a hole on a weaver rail. The setup you have is more suited for a very low recoiling caliber or pellet gun. I would go with a picatinny rail and some decent rings.

 

[Bill Larson]

Not enough torque on ring screws......

 

[Nuke Man]

Not enough torque on ring screws......

Nope I checked the torque before going out this morning. 30 inch lbs.
That is what was recommended by Warne

 

[Nuke Man]

You need lugs for heavy recoil, not those half assed button-like lugs that stick in a hole on a weaver rail. The setup you have is more suited for a very low recoiling caliber or pellet gun. I would go with a picatinny rail and some decent rings.

These rings came recommended by quite a few people. I think I am going to go with a pic rail and some good rings.

 

[agbm]

Mount a standard picatinny rail and a nice set of rings and be done with it.

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

Mount a pic rail on top, then attach your rings to it. You will be much happier.

 

[Nuke Man]

So I've been looking at what's out there. I found a rail built by Mountain Tactical for Tikka Performance. Looks solid, and it utilizes the factory recoil lug machined into the receiver. The only thing I dislike about it and the EGW bases is that the base looks like it sticks out over the barrel about 3/4 of an inch or so. Anyone run into any problems with the Obj bell hitting it?

 

[bkw1911]

So I've been looking at what's out there. I found a rail built by Mountain Tactical for Tikka Performance. Looks solid, and it utilizes the factory recoil lug machined into the receiver. The only thing I dislike about it and the EGW bases is that the base looks like it sticks out over the barrel about 3/4 of an inch or so. Anyone run into any problems with the Obj bell hitting it?

Yeah its retarded tikka ships those rings on magnums. Yours is light on the damage side. I've seen dozens blow the scope completely off. The mountain tactical from tikka performance is probably your best bet. I use egw on my tikkas but I'm just shooting creedmoors. I don't know if I'd trust it for magnums. The mountain tactical utilizes the lug hole unlike the egw.

 

[PatrickChewing]

+1 for EGW rail

 

[mercracing]

Another +1 for EGW rails. If your worried about it hanging over the barrel, cut off the excess.

 

[Nuke Man]

Just scored a Mountain Tactical from a hide member! Glad I looked here before I hit the buy button! Now what rings am I going to go with......

 

[Redmanss]

Seekins rings... Lightweight, sleek profile, strong as hell.

 

[nashlaw]

I am with Redman. The Seekins are sleek and double tough.

 

[desert dog]

Warne maxima rings are good, just not the way Tikka expects you to mount them. Almost everyone with magnum rifles puts the Warnes (or any rings) on a weaver or pic rail so the cross-lugs hold them in place.

Some of my Africa big game magnums have Warne rings and rails, and you see more Warne rings and rails on African PH rifles than any other brand. So it is not the ring itself, but the style of mounting that is causing your problems. As others have said, get a rail on that badboy.

 

[4000fps]

EGW HD 20MOA. Best part about the EGW HD is even though it is a 20moa, it is still low in the back. Even though it hangs over the front of the receiver, my Nightforce 3.5-15x50 does not touch it.

 

[Nuke Man]

Going to try a set of Seekins courtesy of ncbowhnter! The only issue I see with the rail hanging over is my VX6 has a small length of tube between the turrets and obj bell. I think that the rail will get in the way. I will just cut it and Cerakote it to match the rest of the weapon. We'll see but ncbowhnter is sure making it easy on me! Just another positive example of the caliber of members on here!

 

[4000fps]

It just depends on ring height. My scope is sitting in TPS extra-lows. A low or medium would move your bell even further from the rail.

 

[sakobob]

what if the ring was turned 180 where the force would have been in to the meat of the ring and not the thin side?
and another 15'' pounds.

 

[308220]

I have a light recoil 308 with a Weaver pic rail and Vortex el cheapo 6 hole rings. Impossible to keep them tight. Scope slipped 3 different times. Ordered a decent set of Weaver 4 hole rings. Havent got to try them yet. Will tomorrow.

 

[Nuke Man]

what if the ring was turned 180 where the force would have been in to the meat of the ring and not the thin side?
and another 15'' pounds.

That was how I originally had them mounted. But I couldnt get reliable case ejection. The case was hitting the ring base and not ejecting. Unless I really worked the bolt hard. They probably would have held up better. Not sure though.

 

[Nuke Man]

With the new rail and a good set of rings I shouldn't have any more problems. I am just glad that it broke now and not next spring on my bear hunt!

 

[Aimsmall55]

Seekins rings... Lightweight, sleek profile, strong as hell.

+ 1 on seekins

 

[Nuke Man]

Mountain Tactical Gen 2 Elite rail and Seekins Precision rings. While she was down I installed an Atlas BT 15 pic rail on it too. Now I can run the Atlas! She's back and running like a champ!

 

[Nuke Man]

Really like the new rings. Stayed tight, put about 30 rds through it. I will never again buy vertically split rings! I like being able to torque the rings to the rail at 50 inch lbs! With the vertical you can't go over the scope tube specs.

 

[gewehr]

Recoil killed my rings!

Looks great

 

[ncbowhnter]

Looks really good and tight. Has the wife found out yet? haha