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Redding die issue

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Gunny Sergeant
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Ran into an issue while re sizing some 308 brass last night. The brass (second fired Lapua) required a TON of pressure to get the die (Redding S-type bushing FL die) to cam over. Once it did, the brass extracted easily, but I still added more lube. Adding more lube made no difference. I inspected the brass, and noticed that the die was shaving off a small bit of the case. The shaving was very thin buy was almost the full diameter of the case.

The brass looked normal except for the "sizing marks" extended further down the case than normal, and not completely round. The shaving was causing this mark.

I checked that the fit of the die was snug (it was) and checked the decapping rod assembly to make sure it wasn't bent (it wasn't.)

I finished the job off with a Redding body die, which required normal effort and shaved no brass, and then neck sized with the same size bushing in a neck die, which went as normal as well. This leads me to believe something is wrong with my FL die, as conceptually the redding body die should have the same dimensions as the redding FL die.

A few things of note- I have resized thousands of pieces of brass with this die, including brass from this lot. This is the first time FL sizing brass from this rifle- my new to me DTA SRS. The virgin brass I only ran through an expander ball then chamfered/deburred as normal. After the first firing, I only cleaned, neck sized, and cleaned the primer pockets.

Another item of note- I noticed that the die was getting caked with lube, so I cleaned it out with a paper towel with lighter fluid on it. I did spray some lube in it before using, however.

Finally- the brass shavings didn't amount to much mass. I couldn't get a reading on my Chargemaster, even when putting two shavings from two pieces of brass in, and the resolution of the scale is to the hundredth of a gram. The shaved brass doesn't appear to be deformed or missing anything, leading me to believe that the shaving is very thin.

Any ideas? Hone the "feed edge" of the die maybe?

I know I should test some other brass fired from another rifle, that is the next step.

Thanks,

-Bob
 
Re: Redding die issue

you wrote
"leads me to believe something is wrong with my FL die, as conceptually the redding body die should have the same dimensions as the redding FL die."

yup i agree , i would probably just send the die back to redding , you might play around for awhile and get no where ,and ending up sending the die to redding anyways, haha ask me how i know
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I wonder why it took a dump all of a sudden ?
 
Re: Redding die issue

I use the same Redding S-type die. The one time this happened was when my roommate didn't tumble long & the inner case necks were a bit cruddy. Also, the expander ball was a little dirty. Sprayed & wiped down the expander ball and re-tumbled brass--no issues after.

My suggestion is to run a piece of fired brass through the die without the decapper and see if it runs normal.

Also, I swapped out for a carbide expander ball since and it's a marked improvement.
 
Re: Redding die issue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamstur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use the same Redding S-type die. The one time this happened was when my roommate didn't tumble long & the inner case necks were a bit cruddy. Also, the expander ball was a little dirty. Sprayed & wiped down the expander ball and re-tumbled brass--no issues after.

My suggestion is to run a piece of fired brass through the die without the decapper and see if it runs normal.

Also, I swapped out for a carbide expander ball since and it's a marked improvement. </div></div>Thanks, I'll give that a try. I haven't tried anything yet, it's just been sitting.
 
Re: Redding die issue

There are only two broad possibilities, one is there is something wrong with the brass and the other is the die.

Before you blame the die, make sure it is not the first. You can do this by using the die on brass from rifles (as you have already suggested) you used to reload from with no problem and measuring and comparing fired brass from this new rifle and those from the old ones.

The fact that you say “This is the first time FL sizing brass from this rifle- my new to me DTA SRS” makes me suspect the rifle chamber.