I've used them in a 30-20 and 22 Hornet T/C's . Probably more to your question , I've run several tests in a 20" AR and with several different powders , the 7 1/2's 90% of the time shot tighter 5 shot groups at 100 & 300 Yds when tested against 205M's, CCI 400 & 450's.