Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

[bohem]

**New questions down below on post #4**

I'm about to pull the trigger on a SS Rem 7 in 7mm RSAUM. How does the action differ and should I be wary of anything as far as design issues go?

My plan is to shoot out the RSAUM barrel and put on a 7/300 WSM after the RSAUM factory tube is toast.

Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving guys.

 

[Walsh]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

The Model 7 reciver according to Remington is .5" SHORTER than the '700 reciver, other than that though, I belive they are idenical.

 

[Kells81]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

The model 7 in fact is shorter, the front of the action is the same as any other remington 700. The rear bridge is smaller than a 700 hence the 1/2" savings. I have both and would say the model 7's make great hunting guns, light compact and really effective. the downside is there is no DBM if your into that and stocks are a little more limited than the 700. Same trigger etc. A 7 with an LTR barrel and McM HTG/edge would be a killer combo.

here is the topside of a 7 I sold on the hide last year.

Here is the topside of a Rem 700 SA, you can see the diff int he bridge.

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

Thanks guys. I decided to snag the rifle, I'm looking for a solid hunting rifle that's got serious snot and doesn't weigh too much.

A friend has the Whitetail Classic in 300 WSM and he loves it. I have handled it and think it's a really nice rifle, so this seemed like the obvious step in ballistics. 180gr will do anything I want to for killing power, if I need more than that I can shoot something like a heavily loaded 30-06 instead.

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

I ordered the rifle and I'm trying to figure out what to do with the stock. It hasn't come in yet, but from handling Rem factory stocks in the past I know that POS is only going to annoy me.

I'm trying to find something on Stocky's website and the only thing they seem to have is the B&C Carbelite, which is an 8-12 week lead time.

It's a RH action adn I'm a LH shooter, so I need a "unihanded" type stock.

Has anyone tried to stiffen up the Rem stocks by laying a carbon fiber tube or something in the foregrip with epoxy?

 

[Kells81]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

HS makes a stock for the 7, if I remember right it is unahandle style.

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

Thanks Poke.

 

[Armed Ferret]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

Nothing wrong with a Seven in 7SAUM:

I'd recommend a Mickey Classic to help with "unihanded" ergos, balance, and just plain good looks.

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

Nice rifle you have there. I snagged a Rem laminated factory stock yesterday, we'll see how that works out for me.

I am a sucker for a really nice piece of wood on a rifle, if I decide to go to the plastic I'll try out that McM classic instead.

 

[Armed Ferret]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

McMillan stocks aren't plastic. You'd do well to learn about the process before talking shit about them on the internet.

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">McMillan stocks aren't plastic. You'd do well to learn about the process before talking shit about them on the internet. </div></div>

First, let's not confuse slang for shit talking, McM stocks are excellent pieces of equipment.

Secondly, they don't have the feel of wood, they don't look like wood. This means that they do not tickle everyone's fancy if the owner/shooter happen to like wood. That was all that I was getting at. Period.

Finally...

All of the McM stocks are actually a type of plastic. It's called a Fiber Reinforced Polymer, and it also has a sandwhich type construction filler to add stiffness without making the weight balloon. It's built around something called a Thermoset polymer resin, it's a plastic. There's 2 types of polymers, thermoplastics and thermosets. Both are actually correctly termed as a polymer and also known as plastic. Go read about engineering terms and how composite structures are made and you'll understand that the "shit talking" that I did was actually quite correct.

Technically, a laminated wood stock is a composite as well. It is composed of more than 1 material, namely a fibrous structural filler with a resinous binder to carry load between the plies and to stabilize the fibers axially from localized buckling/crippling and to share the load to other fibers surrounding the load input.

FWIW, I build airplane from CFRP for a living and I've hand built more things from fiberglass and carbon fiber composites than you would imagine, including ballistic armor. Don't start lecturing me about composite construction and manufacturing techniques, I live it 70-80 hours a week.

 

[ARCOREY]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

PM sent.

 

[patches]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">McMillan stocks aren't plastic. You'd do well to learn about the process before talking shit about them on the internet. </div></div>

First, let's not confuse slang for shit talking, McM stocks are excellent pieces of equipment.

Secondly, they don't have the feel of wood, they don't look like wood. This means that they do not tickle everyone's fancy if the owner/shooter happen to like wood. That was all that I was getting at. Period.

Finally...

All of the McM stocks are actually a type of plastic. It's called a Fiber Reinforced Polymer, and it also has a sandwhich type construction filler to add stiffness without making the weight balloon. It's built around something called a Thermoset polymer resin, it's a plastic. There's 2 types of polymers, thermoplastics and thermosets. Both are actually correctly termed as a polymer and also known as plastic. Go read about engineering terms and how composite structures are made and you'll understand that the "shit talking" that I did was actually quite correct.

Technically, a laminated wood stock is a composite as well. It is composed of more than 1 material, namely a fibrous structural filler with a resinous binder to carry load between the plies and to stabilize the fibers axially from localized buckling/crippling and to share the load to other fibers surrounding the load input.

FWIW, I build airplane from CFRP for a living and I've hand built more things from fiberglass and carbon fiber composites than you would imagine, including ballistic armor. Don't start lecturing me about composite construction and manufacturing techniques, I live it 70-80 hours a week. </div></div>

And there you have it folks....

 

[BoomStix]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

So what you're saying is, a McM is a high dollar composition of melted down trash bags? Lol, or did I misinterpret that?

 

[Armed Ferret]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

I'm a bit confused. What you're saying is that laminated layers of fiberglass cloth and an epoxy resin is actually plastic?

http://www.mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-stocks-faq.php

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 1. What materials is a stock made of?
Each fiberglass stock is made of multi-layers of eight-ounce woven fiberglass cloth, laminated under pressure with epoxy resin. The stock is filled with solid fiberglass in the receiver area and epoxy and glass beads in the forend. Our EDGE ultralight stocks are made with 100% graphite cloth instead of fiberglass, for less weight and greater strength</div></div>

 

[BoomStix]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

What kind of epoxy is it? A propylene based epoxide possibly? Don't get me wrong I agree that McM is a great product but I think I understand what bohem is trying to say. It's simply a technicality. Calling something "plastic" is not neccesarilly talking "shit".

 

[bohem]

Re: Rem 7 vs. Rem 700

Ferret-

The resin used is a polymer. Polymers are generally referred to as "plastic" hence the "plastic" term.

BoomStix's last post hit it on the head.