Remington 5R barrels

[Rlandry]

Two part question here.. Is there a distinct advantage to Remington's 5R barrels other than they are made from stainless steel, over the carbon steel as far as accuracy or durability? if that actually is an advantage.
Secondly, if I were to obtain one of these, the barrel length would probably be 20 or 24 inches, I would have to check. What would I experience in the way of accuray or velocity loss by cutting it back to 18" or 16"? I'm specifically looking at .223 Rem, and it would pretty much be a 100 and 200 yard bench gun since I don't get a lot of invites to go prairie dog or hog hunting. One can always hope.. LOL I'm looking at this for the faster twist to shoot heavier bullers as I have a 700 with a stainless 1:12 twist barrel and it's a tack driver.
I have a 700 .308 20" rifle(carbon steel) so I'm good there.

 

[Supersubes]

If you already have tac driving 12 twist, and you’re shooting at 100-200 yds, what would be the purpose of the fast twist/heavy bullet combo?


5r vs standard means nothing. Velocity loss will be 20-25 fps per inch of barrel.

 

[Rlandry]

No specific purpose other than I would like to have one to shoot the heavier bullets.

 

[wade2big]

No specific purpose other than I would like to have one to shoot the heavier bullets.

Seems like a waste. For these ranges you wont notice a difference.

I’m wastful as well. ?

The only thing I can say about Remington 5R barrels is that i havent seen one not shoot well and I have shot/witnessed a few.

 

[fdkay]

Can't comment on the 5r .223 tubes. I had a 5r mil spec .308 that was stupid accurate and very easy to clean.
If the twist rate isn't 1-8 or faster I wouldn't mess with it.

 

[Rlandry]

The twist rate for the .223 is 1:9

 

[Supersubes]

Remington doesn’t give a shit about you, and doesn’t deserve your money.

Since you have a shotable table rifles now, why not save some clams and buy a custom action, like a Bighorn Origin. Then you can go the prefit route in the future barrels. Definitely save you money in the long run, and you’ll have a nicer gun.

 

[wade2big]

Remington doesn’t give a shit about you, and doesn’t deserve your money.

Since you have a shotable table rifles now, why not save some clams and buy a custom action, like a Bighorn Origin. Then you can go the prefit route in the future barrels. Definitely save you money in the long run, and you’ll have a nicer gun.

No company gives a damn about anyone. They do what they do to make money. Some have different ways of going about that but I assure you the end game is the same. Charities don’t give a shit either. The people running them get paid. End goal is the same.

Bighorn could care less. So could I.
I do think what you advised is a wise decision though. The first part was crap.

 

[Supersubes]

No company gives a damn about anyone. They do what they do to make money. Some have different ways of going about that but I assure you the end game is the same. Charities don’t give a shit either. The people running them get paid. End goal is the same.

Bighorn could care less. So could I.
I do think what you advised is a wise decision though. The first part was crap.

After 25 plus years of doing nothing to improve their products, they continue to charge high prices, and the product quality gets shittier. I just chambered a 6 creed barrel for a 1963 Remington 700, which I think is the second year of production. It started out as a rack grade 700 ADL in .243. This action is night and day nicer than the last dozen remmy’s I’ve owned. Like Leupold, they sit on their hands and live off a reputation they stopped earning a long time ago. Yet they still charge high prices, despite other companies making nicer rifles, with more features, for less money.

Bighorn is an example in the opposite scenario. They put out a really nice custom in the Origin, and at a price that’s way beyond it’s available competitors at the moment. How can this be. If they stick to the Remington model, it should be crap, and cost 1200 bucks.

 

[wade2big]

After 25 plus years of doing nothing to improve their products, they continue to charge high prices, and the product quality gets shittier. I just chambered a 6 creed barrel for a 1963 Remington 700, which I think is the second year of production. It started out as a rack grade 700 ADL in .243. This action is night and day nicer than the last dozen remmy’s I’ve owned. Like Leupold, they sit on their hands and live off a reputation they stopped earning a long time ago. Yet they still charge high prices, despite other companies making nicer rifles, with more features, for less money.

Bighorn is an example in the opposite scenario. They put out a really nice custom in the Origin, and at a price that’s way beyond it’s available competitors at the moment. How can this be. If they stick to the Remington model, it should be crap, and cost 1200 bucks.

To be fair you can buy a carbon 700 action and trigger for $300 and a stainless for $350. A bighorn is almost three times the money and no trigger. I dont see where you are getting that Remington is overcharging. All mine are great rifles and i wouldnt hesitate to purchase another. There are factory options that may offer a slightly larger bang for the buck but that would be debatable as well do to most other factory options costing more upfront than a Remington 700 5R for example.

Im no fanboy as I enjoy my Tikkas and customs as well but I do think the whole Remington thing is highly exaggerated.

 

[Supersubes]

A Tikka would be a far better rifle than the Remington. Concerning complete rifles, are they not virtually the same cost? Would anybody doubt that the Tikka is executed better than a current Remington? Remington still can’t figure out how to reliably position their bolt handles on the bolt body for proper primary extraction, and it’s designed into the parts already! Turns out in 1963 they could. Laughably bad quality control from them these days.

I wasn’t making a cost comparison between Remington and Bighorn. I told him to save his money, and buy something nice.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Tikka

 

[Smithcollector]

I bought a R700 5R 223 about 10 years ago. It has a 1:9 twist 24" barrel. Took about 300-400 rounds to settle down, but will now shoot 69SMKs into around 1/2 minute, maybe a little better if I'm having a good day. The trigger was typically not great and got replaced. Mine is now in an XLR Element chassis. It's a great rifle, in my opinion with better fit and finish than the regular 700s. That being said, I think there are better options available today.

 

[DaleGribble82]

Remington is exactly like Leupold, sitting on their hands. Don’t even have a Remington firearm in the arsenal anymore, and the only Leupolds I have are two MK4s. As for the 5R barrels absolutely haven’t seen one that wasn’t a shooter, but Remington has gone downhill over the last two decades and fast at that.

 

[DaleGribble82]

After 25 plus years of doing nothing to improve their products, they continue to charge high prices, and the product quality gets shittier. I just chambered a 6 creed barrel for a 1963 Remington 700, which I think is the second year of production. It started out as a rack grade 700 ADL in .243. This action is night and day nicer than the last dozen remmy’s I’ve owned. Like Leupold, they sit on their hands and live off a reputation they stopped earning a long time ago. Yet they still charge high prices, despite other companies making nicer rifles, with more features, for less money.

Bighorn is an example in the opposite scenario. They put out a really nice custom in the Origin, and at a price that’s way beyond it’s available competitors at the moment. How can this be. If they stick to the Remington model, it should be crap, and cost 1200 bucks.

I’ll second that.