Remington 5R vs Bargera B14 ridge
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I’d go with a Remmy. The Bergara B14 in 6.5 I owned had a twisted factory stock and a sloppy action. I know a lot praise them but I wasn’t impressed one bit
If you're going to send the Remmy in to LRI to have the action trued, get a decent barrel installed, side mounted bolt release and AR15 style extractor installed go with the Remmy, after that if you're getting it for hunting you'll be good to go; if you're getting it for precision shooting ditch the Remmy stock and get a chassis, or if you want to invest further into bedding and a DBM get a Manners, or McMillan, or a Foundation stock.
If you want a rifle with a decent barrel, side mounted bolt stop, and sliding plate extractor out of the box get the Bergara. I used to get Remingtons exclusively for most of my life but there came a time when I was fed up with their shoddy manufacturing and QC and having to chase good money hand over fist after bad spent money to fix what should have been done at the factory, and to get the upgrades that would make the rifle closer to what others provide straight out of their shop.
Don't get me wrong the Remington is a great rifle, after all it is being copied, and trued and upgraded by shops around the world with its footprint but the manufacturing has taken a nose dive. I'd go with the Bergara, if you end up not liking the stock you can always drop it in a KRG Bravo chassis for $349.
Depending on your budget, you might even consider a build based on a Bighorn Origin, PROOF Research steel pre-fit barrel, TriggerTech Special, in a KRG Bravo and I'm sure you would end up enjoying the result. It all depends on your budget, intended use, and how soon you want to get it finished in hand. The advantage of a build is that you can take your time to acquire all the parts you need and want and get exactly the rifle you want, even if you could not afford to drop that much cash at one time. If you want to get to shooting right away on a limited budget though get the Bergara.
If you want a rifle with a decent barrel, side mounted bolt stop, and sliding plate extractor out of the box get the Bergara. I used to get Remingtons exclusively for most of my life but there came a time when I was fed up with their shoddy manufacturing and QC and having to chase good money hand over fist after bad spent money to fix what should have been done at the factory, and to get the upgrades that would make the rifle closer to what others provide straight out of their shop.
Don't get me wrong the Remington is a great rifle, after all it is being copied, and trued and upgraded by shops around the world with its footprint but the manufacturing has taken a nose dive. I'd go with the Bergara, if you end up not liking the stock you can always drop it in a KRG Bravo chassis for $349.
Depending on your budget, you might even consider a build based on a Bighorn Origin, PROOF Research steel pre-fit barrel, TriggerTech Special, in a KRG Bravo and I'm sure you would end up enjoying the result. It all depends on your budget, intended use, and how soon you want to get it finished in hand. The advantage of a build is that you can take your time to acquire all the parts you need and want and get exactly the rifle you want, even if you could not afford to drop that much cash at one time. If you want to get to shooting right away on a limited budget though get the Bergara.
The last 3 Bergaras I handled in the gun shop had extremely sloppy actions. Just as much if not more than a factory 700.
however, they are the same footprint, so whatever you need/want to do to one, you can do to the other. Bergara does have excellent barrels.
mid get whichever one is cheaper.
however, they are the same footprint, so whatever you need/want to do to one, you can do to the other. Bergara does have excellent barrels.
mid get whichever one is cheaper.
I own several Bergaras, not one of those actions is "sloppy", I have had several Remington actions that were better used as paper weights until I had them trued for good money, sending them back and forth and without adding a new barrel which affects accuracy more than the action they would have still been nowhere close to what I expect out of a rifle. Having all that done they were very respectable but still not anywhere near any of the builds.
The only good Remington 700 I have ever handled was an old Remington 700. The one the gara that I own shoots and performs very well. I have handled several in the stores that I didn't find any problems with. That said get a Savage.
OP, whatever you get, don't buy a Savage. No matter what you do you can't polish that turd. The amount of money you'll waste on Savage is enough for a nice custom action.
Bergara is a nice rifle, so is Remington in their price range. The difference in the two is the barrel where it meets the bolt. Bergara has a radius and to my knowledge nobody makes a prefit for them. So factor in about $700 to replace the barrel. I think the Bergara comes with a better stock from the factory.
Remington is a standard recessed bolt and you have many options for barrels. The stock isn't great, but there are very nice inexpensive options there too.
Bergara is a nice rifle, so is Remington in their price range. The difference in the two is the barrel where it meets the bolt. Bergara has a radius and to my knowledge nobody makes a prefit for them. So factor in about $700 to replace the barrel. I think the Bergara comes with a better stock from the factory.
Remington is a standard recessed bolt and you have many options for barrels. The stock isn't great, but there are very nice inexpensive options there too.
The Remington 700 5r rifles are dang good rifles. Most people that bash them have never even shot one. I have not had a Remington to date that wouldn’t shoot sub moa.
I do not, and never have owned a Remington center fire rifle. Bought a Bergara and I am impressed with the rifle.
Like all gun companies owned by non-shooting enthusiast firms, Remingtons quality has slipped greatly over the past few decades.
It doesn't mean that their rifles won't shoot. I bought a 200th anniversary ADL in .243 from a Wal-Mart clearance priced at something like $350. I swear that the "bolt jeweling" is spray paint, and the rest of the finish is horrible...but it is legitimately sub-MOA. I'd just be embarrassed to show it off to somebody. Oh, and the X-Mark Pro crap trigger was fully adjustable from 3lbs 11oz to 3lbs 14oz. Yep, three ounces of adjustment built in right there.
Bought a 5R in 2007 that was freakishly accurate, but only liked a dirty bore. Cleaning the barrel took it from a 1/2 MOA gun to a 1 MOA rifle for about 20 shots.
I guess it still go Remington if you plan on monkeying with it after the purchase. Barbara if you intend to leave stock.
It doesn't mean that their rifles won't shoot. I bought a 200th anniversary ADL in .243 from a Wal-Mart clearance priced at something like $350. I swear that the "bolt jeweling" is spray paint, and the rest of the finish is horrible...but it is legitimately sub-MOA. I'd just be embarrassed to show it off to somebody. Oh, and the X-Mark Pro crap trigger was fully adjustable from 3lbs 11oz to 3lbs 14oz. Yep, three ounces of adjustment built in right there.
Bought a 5R in 2007 that was freakishly accurate, but only liked a dirty bore. Cleaning the barrel took it from a 1/2 MOA gun to a 1 MOA rifle for about 20 shots.
I guess it still go Remington if you plan on monkeying with it after the purchase. Barbara if you intend to leave stock.
I had a remington 5R mil-spec (they have two 5R models).
It was easily the most accurate rifle I have ever owned. I actually "upgraded" with a Schneider 5p barrel that doesn't shoot as well as the factory tube.
The mil-spec barrel is hammer forged, apparently with the same mandrel etc... that they do the M24 barrels are done on.
It was easily the most accurate rifle I have ever owned. I actually "upgraded" with a Schneider 5p barrel that doesn't shoot as well as the factory tube.
The mil-spec barrel is hammer forged, apparently with the same mandrel etc... that they do the M24 barrels are done on.
