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DeauxJoe

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Ok so I posted here last week about the Rem 700 a guy gave me to settle a debt. Well took it out today. I sold the SEALs scope on it, I inspected in further and I couldn't even see shapes or figures beyond 18x. SO I put a Bushnell 3-9x40 I had on my .22. Well here are the results.

FIrst Pics of the Rifle.


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THe Ammo I used. 130 Gr Soft Point



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Results! From 100 yrds

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So I would still like to put some nice glass on top of it. I am really leaning towards the Vortex Viper PST. I would like to go a little cheaper, but I want to get something I will be happy with the first time.
 
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The rifle isn't bad. Look like a factory rifle that had a muzzle brake added on and the stuck in that stock. I would also replace that. I still own one of those stocks and while it is an upgrade from a cheap factory remmy stock it certainly isn't ideal.

Other then that I'd say have fun shooting the barrel out then replace it with a high quality barrel that is chambered for a different cartridge.
 
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I really wouldn't know what to change too. I would just like something with readily available match ammo.

P.s. Thanks for the info, I will stick to 5 shot groups.
 
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Well right now you have a long action with a .473 bolt face. Without modifying the bolt or replacing it, you can rebarrel to any long or short action cartridge with that head diameter. Short action cartridges such as the .308 can benefit from a long action if you plan on using the long VLD bullets. Right now there aren't many long action factory loads in that head size.
 
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Yes, you could rebarrel to .308. The M24 is a .308 built on a long action. I believe they have a spacer within the magazine to prevent feeding problems. That is an issue you may run into using standard length short action cartridges in a long action magazine. Not impossible to solve if it becomes a problem. Consult a good smith about what you're planning on doing with this rifle before ordering a barrel. A long action really isn't ideal for a .308 unless you plan on reloading rounds that are too long to function through a short action magazine. If you are, then it's a plus.
 
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Edit, was thinking of 7-08. stupid me.

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.280 Remington is a cartridge based off the 30-06 cartridge (7.62x63mm), except with a smaller projectile. The advantage of a .208 would be a flatter trajectory and longer range than the .308.
However, the .280 is nowhere near as common a cartridge as the .308 or it's parent .30-06. I don't know what the ammo situation is like for you guys in the US, but finding ammo for .280 in australia would be hard outside of the bigger gun shops.

the .308 is a dererive of the 30-06, it's the commercial name for the 7.62x51mm cartridge used today by the military in thier M40 sniper rifles. It's smaller than the .280 in length, but has a larger projectile, so it's trajectory is nowhere near as flat. However, the .308 is still an easy cartridge to work with.
The advantages of a .308 is mainly in it's cheap price and availabilty of ammo. It's arguably the most popular larger centrefire rifle, and i'd say 99% of shooters on the Hide that shoot rifles own or have owned a .308 in their life.

if you're new to the shooting game, or aren't going to shoot too often, the .308 will be the prime choice for you. Cheaper ammo, and the high-quality stuff will be much easier to find. the .280 is a fine cartridge, but may not be ideal for the level of shooting you want to undertake. and considering you stated you only want to shoot to 500yd max, then the .308 will do you more than fine (even out to 800yd)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remoah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Edit, was thinking of 7-08. stupid me.

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.280 Remington is a cartridge based off the 30-06 cartridge (7.62x63mm), except with a smaller projectile. The advantage of a .208 would be a flatter trajectory and longer range than the .308.
However, the .280 is nowhere near as common a cartridge as the .308 or it's parent .30-06. I don't know what the ammo situation is like for you guys in the US, but finding ammo for .280 in australia would be hard outside of the bigger gun shops.

the .308 is a dererive of the 30-06, it's the commercial name for the 7.62x51mm cartridge used today by the military in thier M40 sniper rifles. It's smaller than the .280 in length, but has a larger projectile, so it's trajectory is nowhere near as flat. However, the .308 is still an easy cartridge to work with.
The advantages of a .308 is mainly in it's cheap price and availabilty of ammo. It's arguably the most popular larger centrefire rifle, and i'd say 99% of shooters on the Hide that shoot rifles own or have owned a .308 in their life.

if you're new to the shooting game, or aren't going to shoot too often, the .308 will be the prime choice for you. Cheaper ammo, and the high-quality stuff will be much easier to find. the .280 is a fine cartridge, but may not be ideal for the level of shooting you want to undertake. and considering you stated you only want to shoot to 500yd max, then the .308 will do you more than fine (even out to 800yd) </div></div>

Wow some great info there thank you. I saw in your sig you shoot a Bushnell Tact. how do you like it it? I was one of the scopes I was thinking about.

My local gun smith want about 1k for a new barrel. That seems hight to me but maybe I just dont know what I am talking about. How much should I spend for a job like that? where should I look?
 
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1K just to rebarrel is probably a bit high. Do you reload at all or intend to reload? Other than the 30-06, I'm not aware of any long action .473 case head cartridge that has factory match loads available. If you do reload, you were advised in your previous post that the .270 could be handloaded and made to perform well at the ranges you stated you shoot at. The problem with the .270 is that it has always been looked at as a hunting cartridge and there is a very limited selection of match bullets available compared to .284 and and .308 bullets. If you plan on sticking with factory ammo, I would trade that rifle for something in .308 rather then rebarreling and then possibly dealing with feeding issues.
 
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That .270 would make a very nice hunting rifle. I would sell off that choate, put it in a nice monte carlo type stock with some nice glass. You will be able to reach out and touch some deer and antelope and have something to be proud about. Also if you plan to sell it, you may get more money if it "looks" like a hunting rifle. Heck there are plenty of LA stock popping up in the sale thread.

Also you know it shoots decent with factory 270 as is. If you do not reload who know how it will shoot when you are done.

Just dont want to see you go down that rebarrel path and dump more money than to pick up a decent used .308. Nothin like spending 1k to make a $500 rifle.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badshot308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1K just to rebarrel is probably a bit high. Do you reload at all or intend to reload? Other than the 30-06, I'm not aware of any long action .473 case head cartridge that has factory match loads available. If you do reload, you were advised in your previous post that the .270 could be handloaded and made to perform well at the ranges you stated you shoot at. The problem with the .270 is that it has always been looked at as a hunting cartridge and there is a very limited selection of match bullets available compared to .284 and and .308 bullets. If you plan on sticking with factory ammo, I would trade that rifle for something in .308 rather then rebarreling and then possibly dealing with feeding issues. </div></div>

No sir, I don't plan on reloading. I honestly don't think I will rebarrel this rifle it was just nice to know. I think I will just shoot what I have for now, if I really like it and want to get into shooting at long distances I will just figure out how to get the most out of selling it and move on from there. I like the Rem 700 VTR in .308. Or an sps tact. So I may end up with one of those.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That .270 would make a very nice hunting rifle. I would sell off that choate, put it in a nice monte carlo type stock with some nice glass. You will be able to reach out and touch some deer and antelope and have something to be proud about. Also if you plan to sell it, you may get more money if it "looks" like a hunting rifle. Heck there are plenty of LA stock popping up in the sale thread.

Also you know it shoots decent with factory 270 as is. If you do not reload who know how it will shoot when you are done.

Just dont want to see you go down that rebarrel path and dump more money than to pick up a decent used .308. Nothin like spending 1k to make a $500 rifle. </div></div>

QFT and thats exactly what I don't want to do. My thoughts were to put some nice glass on top of it and shoot it for a while, If I decide I need more than I will sell the rifle and keep the glass for whatever comes next.
 
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That's actually a good plan. Just try some of the various factory loads and see what it likes best. Fire several five shot groups to get a good indication of the accuracy of each load. It's got a sporter weight barrel so it will heat up fast and may start walking rounds as it does so. If that happens, just let it cool between shots or groups. The rifle may surprise you and be accurate enough for your purpose. If not, switch to plan B and get a rifle more purpose built as a precision rig.
 
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Is there a post here that will walk shooters through their start into shooting? For example I have heard that I am supposed to clean it every 5-6 shots. Is that true?
 
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If the barrel is getting very hot to the touch or the groups are starting to open up, let it cool down. Every barrel is a law onto itself as to how hot it will get before groups open up or start shifting around. 100 yards is a good range to shoot the groups at. Far enough away to evaluate the accuracy but not so far away that shooter error or environmental conditions become magnified.
 
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Well you can sign up for the online training. Snipers Hide also has some free videos posted on Youtube to give you some pointers and get you started. As far as cleaning every 5-6 shots, do not. Excessive and/or incorrect cleaning will damage a barrel far more than just shooting it. Here's a video on cleaning a barrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3Tpfcpmsk&feature=player_embedded The main thing is to prevent damage to the crown and the throat of the barrel. A good bore guide such as a Lucas bore guide will keep the cleaning rod centered in the bore and minimize contact between the cleaning rod and the throat. As the video shows, be careful when pulling jags back through the muzzle. If you are used to using the multiple section rods, don't. They never align perfectly. As far as how often to clean, just go back several pages and you'll find one or more threads on the topic. It's hotly debated, along with barrel break in procedures. It' isn't necessary to clean every time you shoot unless you're storing it away for an extended period of time and rusting will be an issue. If you're going to be shooting it quite often, don't clean the bore until you see the accuracy begin to degrade.
 
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You have been super helpful, Thank you. That video just taught me a few things I didnt even know. lol I will go out a shoot a few groups and we will see how this goes. Thanks again.
 
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Sorry about the late reply mate!

The Bushnell 4200 is a great scope. Very Clear, very robust, and a good amount of travel, my ONLY issue is the scope caps don't 100% line up. But that isn't too much of a bad thing considering the scope itself is excellent.

However, if youre gonna dump all that money on a scope i'd suggest the Vortex Viper PST 6-24x, from what i hear it's a very good scope, the only reason i don't have one is because they weren't available when i bought the bushnell and they still aren't available in Australia

Good Luck!