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Respectable Accuracy

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What do you think is decent accuracy from a stock ruger 10/22 with iron sights at 25 yards/meters/paces?

I've been really working on my accuracy lately and I was getting some pretty consistent groups with the ruger outfitted with tech sights while shooting at game cards. A "no-BS" assessment of my shooting abilities is two shots about 3 millimeters away from each other, with the third shot about a quarter inch away from the previous. This was taken off an empty school backpack that was kind of hard to get a consistent rest on.

So how do you think I'm doing? How does this compare with most of your shooting? Any tips for me? Other than rehearsing the basics and more practice of course.
 
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Try the short range Rimfire comps in this thread. There is a 4 position match in there that can be shot at 25yds, although most shoot it at 50 with optics. Print the targets, go shoot, and post your scores, see how they stack up.
 
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I would suggest moving out to 50 Yards/Meters and shooting 5-shot groups instead of 3-shot groups.

But, like DFOOSKING said, you should figure out what your needs are.

A person who only hunts with his rifles doesn't <span style="font-style: italic">need</span> any high degree of accuracy unless he plans to shoot at fairly long distances. A 2MOA shooter/rifle/ammo combo can easily take a deer out to 300 yards and I believe the majority of deer are taken within 300 but I could be wrong of course...

A competition shooter may shoot stages that require first round hits so he would train for first round hits in addition to his regular shooting regimen.

An F-Class shooter would want the highest degree of accuracy to make his group as small as possible.

I do know what you're asking though. If I were you, I would start shooting 5-shot groups at 50 yards/meters first. Once you have a solid idea of how good you shoot, make a goal for yourself to strive after. Make it reasonable, and attainable. And then when you meet that achievement, make another goal for yourself and start working towards that. Only you can decide what to strive for. If you can keep it under 0.5" @ 50 yards/meters with irons, then I would tip my imaginary hat to you. I think that's a reasonable goal to make, but that may seem stupid difficult to some guys, while others may feel that's not good enough for them.

My own personal goal is to clean the 100 yard TQ4. I'm no where near close to making that goal, but, having something to work towards makes shooting so much more entertaining. After I meet my goal, I will move on to the 200 yard comp.

And speaking of which, we have friendly rimfire competitions here at Sniper's Hide that I HIGHLY encourage you to participate it. We don't have hardly any irons shooters but there is a category for those of you who do. Someday I’ll have a set on my own rifle, but that looks like it'll be a while. Anyways, take a look and I HIGHLY encourage you to give a few of them a try. We can always use more participants!

I hope this helps!

Respectfully,
Dylan
 
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+1 for what dfoosking said.

I use optics on my 10/22 and when I first started out, I was tickled pink at 1" groups at 30-40yds. I then read this forum and am determined to do better. Once I got consistent .4-.5" groups at 50, I wanted to do better. Now I'm getting sub-moa groups (.8-.9") consistently. What's next you ask? I gotta find a 200yd range and start over. This time by reading wind better.

My biggest hurdle in shooting is adrenaline and nerves. It doesn't matter if it is my 22, 308, or 50bmg. Once I shoot a great 3-4 shot group my heart starts racing and I gotta calm back down.


Good Luck!
 
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If you are comfortable out to 25 yards for now, do as other have suggested and shoot a larger number of shots for group assessent. 5 shots is a minimum for group assesment, but I prefer 7-10.

7-10 shot strings allows you to both evalaute your skill set, as well as your 22 LR rifle/ammo combination. These larger group sizes allows you to see if your skill set including, cheek weld, trigger control, concentration, follow through, etc., are consistent and where you need practice.

It also allows you to see if your rifle/ammo conbination is doing what it needs to do for you.

IMHO If you are going to stay at the 25-50 yards range, what I am about to say is important, but not critical. If you plan to extend your rimfire shooting range beyond 50 yards it is absolutely critical the longer distances you shoot with a rimfire.

I fired just over 5,000 rounds of 22LR in 2011 through a number of various rifles. Before you can evaluate your improvement as a marksman, you need to be sure the rifle/ammo combination you are using is capable of meeting your goals.

I suggest you buy several boxes of different ammo, small investment, to determine which ammo your specfic rifle likes best. You can shoot this ammo at 25 yards with iron sights, but when you get it narrowed down to 1 or 2 different ammos, shoot them both at 50 yards. Don't be as concerned about the group size you shoot, as much as looking for the ammo that produces groups with least amount of vertical stringing. Once you have determined which ammo your rifle likes best, now you can really see where your skill set needs improvement.

We all know when we jerked the trigger instead of sqeezing it. We also typically know when we were not "really" dead center and we let it fly anyway. Getting consitently behind your rifle with a consistent cheek weld, and proper eye alignment is one of the best places to start. Building your physical skills is important, but building your mental skills is critical.

I shoot for two reasons. First it is just a lot of fun and I love it. Second I want to be as good as I can be at my chosen recreation. I take time to just shoot for the fun of it. I load em and let um rip. If your going out to have a fun do that.

When you are going out to work on and improve your skills as a marksman, have specific goals set for that range session. Know what you need to work on and practice those skills. As you see things that need improvement, set a goal and when you attain it, set the next goal.

OK, I know its maybe too deep, but I am just telling you what has worked for me.

Please get involved in the SH rimfire comps. There are some great shooters here and guys/gals that can help you improve your skill set. Most are more than willing to share what works for them and how they do it.

Good Shooting.

AR
 
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Ask my girlfriend about shooting her Henry via iron sights. Her limit was consistently hitting a steel 10" x 5" rectangle sitting upright at 230 yards. Typically 8 of 10 consistent. Not too shabby considering she can't look through a scope w/o getting a headache. I'll hopefully get her outside to shoot tomorrow and het some range pics posted.
 
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Forget groups, get some NRA or ISU 50 foot targets and shoot one round at each bull. You can get off 10 shoots and see how you really do.

Practice for a English Match. That's prone using a sling position. Even in smaller matches you have to clean the target to be competitive. Winners are determined by X count.

When you think you got it down, then go shoot some matches against college kids..............they will humble you.

PS: Lots of people still shoot irons, I do better with irons (apeture sights) then I do with glass.